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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 08:31 AM
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Not that I've tried it!!!

Thinking about the Toyota stuck-throttle problem and what to do in the R-class. It would be very easy to knock it past neutral into reverse which would be pretty catastrophic as I don't think there's any safeguard - is there?
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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It is impossible with the electronic transmission in a M/B. Once you get over 10 mph or so, look at the gear selector screen. A small triangle will appear and point to what gear positions are available at that speed.
I have actually experimented with loaners....N is as dangerous as it gets.
You can drop it back into D at highway speeds and the trans will ease back into gear and transition smoothly.
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Originally Posted by Benzo 003
It is impossible with the electronic transmission in a M/B. Once you get over 10 mph or so, look at the gear selector screen. A small triangle will appear and point to what gear positions are available at that speed.
Well, well - had it 3 years and never noticed that! Thanks Benzo! Must pay more attention in future!
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Unlike Toyota, your Mercedes has drive-by-wire throttle electronics that permit the brake pedal to override the accelerator pedal. Hit the brake, and throttle shuts off.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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That is good news. As I read the news articles, I have come to realize that all vehicles that rely on electronic throttle controls may be subject to the design flaw that is affecting Toyota vehicles. It is a relief to see that MB has incorporated a failsafe in the system design.

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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lkchris
Unlike Toyota, your Mercedes has drive-by-wire throttle electronics that permit the brake pedal to override the accelerator pedal. Hit the brake, and throttle shuts off.
Wrong. The new models is drive-by-wire.
My 04 TL Acura and 07 Acura RL are also drive-by-wire.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lkchris
Unlike Toyota, your Mercedes has drive-by-wire throttle electronics that permit the brake pedal to override the accelerator pedal. Hit the brake, and throttle shuts off.
Wrong. The new models is drive-by-wire.

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/947...by-wires-fault

My 04 TL Acura and 07 Acura RL are also drive-by-wire.

Update:
The giant Japanese automaker (TOYOTA) has said all new models sold in the United States will have the override system by 2011 and that many recalled vehicles will be refitted with it.

The system automatically deactivates the accelerator when the brake pedal is pressed, allowing the driver to stop safely even if the car's throttle is stuck open.

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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianR350
Wrong. The new models is drive-by-wire.
My 04 TL Acura and 07 Acura RL are also drive-by-wire.
Who cares?

The question is NOT about whether it's drive-by-wire, the question is whether there is brake pedal override.

The Mercedes has it.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lkchris
Who cares?

The question is NOT about whether it's drive-by-wire, the question is whether there is brake pedal override.

The Mercedes has it.
You're right. Safety is all that matters. However, since you mentioned drive-by-wire as the reason why Mercedes permits the brake pedal to override the accelerator pedal is not valid in this case. Like you said, the question is not whether it's drive-by-wire or not so there wasn't any merit for it to be mentioned in the first place.
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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Not that I have a 2wd R or would attempt it but for hypothetical conversation. Would the electronic brake override make attempting a smoking burnout impossible if you had a 2WD R-Class?
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In theory, the "brake Torque" burnout would be impossible.

You could always wait until you get a loaner and give it go....
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