my 600sel won't start, help
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my 600sel won't start, help
hi guys, i just bought a 1992 600sel from auction, was driving it for few miles it was driving poorly, wors and wors every mile untill it stoped and did't want to drive anymore, i took it to a MB dealer they said its the engine wiring harness was bad and they said they can change the harness for $10.000 so i said thanks payed $350 for diagnosis, and i towed the car to my house, i replaced the engine harness, the air flow metters, air flow meter connectors with wires, fuel filter,,,, the car will not start,,, ones it sits for a day or so it will start for few seconds shake a little bit and stols and it won't start for few hours again, ones i crank the ignition i can smell fuel in the garage can it be fuel delivery??? i have no idea i know you guys know alot about cars, can someone help me???? thanks in advance, Jake
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yaloha: First of all where do you live. What is the name of the criminal organisation that tried to charge you $10,000 dollars to change the wireing harness? You should warn others of this place.
Second what did you pay for this car? It must have been almost free to buy without checking it out first.
Third who installed the parts you described? Does this person have any mechanical skill?
As to what may be wrong it could be many things. For instance is the engine timing set correctly, the car will not run no matter what you do if the timing is not correct.
Is there an independant mechanic/shop available to check the codes to determin what is realy wrong.
Don't give up however, it may be something as simple as a broken vacuum line, check all the plastic lines to make sure they are not broken or loose.
keep in touch , good luck
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well, I replaced the harness but it was nothing hard i just put all the plugs in the same place where the old ones went,, and i dont know if the timing is good, is there a way i can check the timing?
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ok on the diagnosis there were few codes found, EA, CC, ISC CAN, MAF SENSON, "NO RECEPTION FROM LH1 AND LH2," thats what the diag said, of anyone has an idea what this is about please tell me , thanks
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first off - get the codes cleared - and start afresh. most of those codes are prob from the old dead harness.
ignition amplifiers can go down like this - its the flat plate thing on the inner wings with a few big round plugs in it
350 dollars to do a diagnostic????
WHAT? jeeeez. its like 50 quid over here - you had better find yourself a new dealer.
also have a look at K6 JRF's S500 coupe site
http://pages.prodigy.net/jforgione/MB_S500.html
for tips on the earlier system
ignition amplifiers can go down like this - its the flat plate thing on the inner wings with a few big round plugs in it
350 dollars to do a diagnostic????
WHAT? jeeeez. its like 50 quid over here - you had better find yourself a new dealer.
also have a look at K6 JRF's S500 coupe site
http://pages.prodigy.net/jforgione/MB_S500.html
for tips on the earlier system
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also look herer for a pdf copy of the data you need to access the codes.
taken from the autodata cd for the 1992 S600
www.dewdney.co.uk/guy/s600codes.pdf
taken from the autodata cd for the 1992 S600
www.dewdney.co.uk/guy/s600codes.pdf
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i just replaced the fuel pressure regulator and nothing, still smells gas when i crank the engine, and car starts for few seconds after coolong off for few hours,,, does anyone have any idea whats wrong??
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on early sysstems, there is a secondary injector located in the intake maifold. when the engine is cold, it fires, creating a very rich mixture.
if this is the only thing firing, then the car would start and run for 30 seconds or so.
check the injectors (normal) have good voltage to ground / live
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if this is the only thing firing, then the car would start and run for 30 seconds or so.
check the injectors (normal) have good voltage to ground / live
Guy
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i checked the sparks they make spark but i dont know if a good one, so can u tell me where the spark amlifier is located, and what i can do to see if its it, or if i can fix it, thanks
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try this site. check option #9 for information on EA
http://pages.prodigy.net/jforgione/MB_s500.html
I may be wrong but I think some of the codes you got are to do with the electronic acellerator module.
Barry
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One of the things I would check before I put any more money out is to check the charge of the battery. A car with a seriously discharged battery will not run. Contrary to what is commonly believed, the cars charging system is not always able to recharge a very depleted battery, especialy if the battery is just too darn old to take a charge. hook up a good strong battery to your present battery with jumper cables, don't disconnect your present battery unless you have the radio code numbers or else your radio won't work until you get the code. Start the car and see if it will run with a good battery.
Recently my sons VW GTI kept dieing on his way to work. he would put the car on his charger and it would run again, then die. turned out his alternator was not working. replaced the alternator and everything is ok again.
Put some methyl hydrate in your gas tank just in case the fuel was contaminated with water.
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may I politly suggest that you do not have the knowledge or expertise to be able to fix a car like this.
I have 15 years of auto repair under my belt, and I'm scared by the idea of working on a 600 S class.
have you read the websites listed above? I suspect not.
I think you should just think about doing some overtime at work and paying someone else to fix it for you.
I have 15 years of auto repair under my belt, and I'm scared by the idea of working on a 600 S class.
have you read the websites listed above? I suspect not.
I think you should just think about doing some overtime at work and paying someone else to fix it for you.
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Guydewdney: I think you are right. most of us can do minor repairs if we work slowly and carefuly, however for complicated stuff I rely on well trained people. I am good at my job, but an amateur would make a mess of it. So I am willing to pay a pro to do the complicated work. I will not be taking out my own apendix for example.
Barry
