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1997 w140 S600 not starting..PLZ HELP

Old Apr 26, 2023 | 06:55 PM
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1997 w140 S600 not starting..PLZ HELP

Hi, I would greatly appreciate any help with this!
My 97 w140 s600 M120 will not turn over. It cranks and runs for a second before it chokes and stops. Right before this, I had run the car close to empty before filling it back up. It drove well until I parked it for an hour and tried to start it again.

The most recent services I've done:

Valve cover gaskets (3 weeks prior to issue)
Intake Manifold Gasket Seal Kit both sides
Full brakes and rotors and two front callipers this is when all the lights (1 day before issue)
The following day after the brakes and rotors and callipers were changed ESP, ABS, Brake light lit up on the dashboard.

Troubleshooting performed:
- Filled gas
- Changed fuel pump
- Checked fuses for fuel pump
- Fuse# 20 for the climate control unit keeps blowing
- Checked fuel pump relay
- There was water buildup near the battery ground wire that I Cleaned up and put a new battery
- Car starts when you spray brake cleaner into the intake (both ends) and then dies out
- crank position sensors did not show up in scan

Here is a list of the codes that showed up from a scan with the Mercedes Xentry system .
ME1RE fault memory

P1570 fault in DAS to right engine control module (n3/12)

P1588 fault in CAN, DAS to left ME- SFI (N3/11)

AB fault memory

009 Sidebag ignition circuit front passenger

008 Sidebag ignition circuit driver

EGS fault memory

148 sporadically torque converter lock up clutch (KUB) impersmissible closing.


EGS fault memory

146 Sporadically imperssible transmission ratio.

147 Sporadically gear implausible or transmissions slipping.

LGS fault memory

104 Sporadically r/p lock actuator Y66/ 1

132 Sporadically CAN communicate. Engine electronics or engine temperature. Implausible

ADS fault memory

020 voltage supply circuit 87. undervoltage

ADS fault memory
016 steering angle sensor N49 signal

017 steering angle sensor n49 not initialized

AB fault memory

004 airbag ignition
Circuit driver

025 seat occupancy recogn LF passenger RF passenger

AB fault memory

017 front passenger belt buckle switch (airbag) belt tens.

016 drivers belt buckle switch (airbag) / belt tensioner


KI fault memory

B1040 CAN communication fault to engine controls module

B1041 CAN communication fault to traction systems control module

KI fault memory
B1470 fuel gauge sensor B4

B1471 temperature sensor outside temperature display B14

B1755 Serial interface K2 from Auto AC/ tempmatic control to instrument cluster

B1755 Serial interface K2 from Auto AC/ tempmatic control module to instrument cluster


LWR fault memory

B1480 Left adjustment motor (E1m1) fault in engine path


B1260 sensor faulty axel sensor front A52


A technician advised that there may be an issue with wiring running from #20 fuse. I don't see the affiliation between this fuse and the starter.

Please let me know if anybody has had similar issues and how they fixed it. I would greatly appreciate it. I'm at a dead end. Thank you!
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Old May 1, 2023 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by YYZ_w140S600
Hi, I would greatly appreciate any help with this!
My 97 w140 s600 M120 will not turn over. It cranks and runs for a second before it chokes and stops. Right before this, I had run the car close to empty before filling it back up. It drove well until I parked it for an hour and tried to start it again.

The most recent services I've done:

Valve cover gaskets (3 weeks prior to issue)
Intake Manifold Gasket Seal Kit both sides
Full brakes and rotors and two front callipers this is when all the lights (1 day before issue)
The following day after the brakes and rotors and callipers were changed ESP, ABS, Brake light lit up on the dashboard.

Troubleshooting performed:
- Filled gas
- Changed fuel pump
- Checked fuses for fuel pump
- Fuse# 20 for the climate control unit keeps blowing
- Checked fuel pump relay
- There was water buildup near the battery ground wire that I Cleaned up and put a new battery
- Car starts when you spray brake cleaner into the intake (both ends) and then dies out
- crank position sensors did not show up in scan

Here is a list of the codes that showed up from a scan with the Mercedes Xentry system .
ME1RE fault memory

P1570 fault in DAS to right engine control module (n3/12)

P1588 fault in CAN, DAS to left ME- SFI (N3/11)

AB fault memory

009 Sidebag ignition circuit front passenger

008 Sidebag ignition circuit driver

EGS fault memory

148 sporadically torque converter lock up clutch (KUB) impersmissible closing.


EGS fault memory

146 Sporadically imperssible transmission ratio.

147 Sporadically gear implausible or transmissions slipping.

LGS fault memory

104 Sporadically r/p lock actuator Y66/ 1

132 Sporadically CAN communicate. Engine electronics or engine temperature. Implausible

ADS fault memory

020 voltage supply circuit 87. undervoltage

ADS fault memory
016 steering angle sensor N49 signal

017 steering angle sensor n49 not initialized

AB fault memory

004 airbag ignition
Circuit driver

025 seat occupancy recogn LF passenger RF passenger

AB fault memory

017 front passenger belt buckle switch (airbag) belt tens.

016 drivers belt buckle switch (airbag) / belt tensioner


KI fault memory

B1040 CAN communication fault to engine controls module

B1041 CAN communication fault to traction systems control module

KI fault memory
B1470 fuel gauge sensor B4

B1471 temperature sensor outside temperature display B14

B1755 Serial interface K2 from Auto AC/ tempmatic control to instrument cluster

B1755 Serial interface K2 from Auto AC/ tempmatic control module to instrument cluster


LWR fault memory

B1480 Left adjustment motor (E1m1) fault in engine path


B1260 sensor faulty axel sensor front A52


A technician advised that there may be an issue with wiring running from #20 fuse. I don't see the affiliation between this fuse and the starter.

Please let me know if anybody has had similar issues and how they fixed it. I would greatly appreciate it. I'm at a dead end. Thank you!
Just for grins...unplug both of the Mass Air Flow Sensors and see if it starts and runs. The V12's are designed to run with the MAFS unplugged if one or both malfunction. This is probably not the problem but it takes 5 minutes to find out.
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Old May 1, 2023 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by YYZ_w140S600
Hi, I would greatly appreciate any help with this!
My 97 w140 s600 M120 will not turn over. It cranks and runs for a second before it chokes and stops. Right before this, I had run the car close to empty before filling it back up. It drove well until I parked it for an hour and tried to start it again.

The most recent services I've done:

Valve cover gaskets (3 weeks prior to issue)
Intake Manifold Gasket Seal Kit both sides
Full brakes and rotors and two front callipers this is when all the lights (1 day before issue)
The following day after the brakes and rotors and callipers were changed ESP, ABS, Brake light lit up on the dashboard.

Troubleshooting performed:
- Filled gas
- Changed fuel pump
- Checked fuses for fuel pump
- Fuse# 20 for the climate control unit keeps blowing
- Checked fuel pump relay
- There was water buildup near the battery ground wire that I Cleaned up and put a new battery
- Car starts when you spray brake cleaner into the intake (both ends) and then dies out
- crank position sensors did not show up in scan

Here is a list of the codes that showed up from a scan with the Mercedes Xentry system .
ME1RE fault memory

P1570 fault in DAS to right engine control module (n3/12)

P1588 fault in CAN, DAS to left ME- SFI (N3/11)

AB fault memory

009 Sidebag ignition circuit front passenger

008 Sidebag ignition circuit driver

EGS fault memory

148 sporadically torque converter lock up clutch (KUB) impersmissible closing.


EGS fault memory

146 Sporadically imperssible transmission ratio.

147 Sporadically gear implausible or transmissions slipping.

LGS fault memory

104 Sporadically r/p lock actuator Y66/ 1

132 Sporadically CAN communicate. Engine electronics or engine temperature. Implausible

ADS fault memory

020 voltage supply circuit 87. undervoltage

ADS fault memory
016 steering angle sensor N49 signal

017 steering angle sensor n49 not initialized

AB fault memory

004 airbag ignition
Circuit driver

025 seat occupancy recogn LF passenger RF passenger

AB fault memory

017 front passenger belt buckle switch (airbag) belt tens.

016 drivers belt buckle switch (airbag) / belt tensioner


KI fault memory

B1040 CAN communication fault to engine controls module

B1041 CAN communication fault to traction systems control module

KI fault memory
B1470 fuel gauge sensor B4

B1471 temperature sensor outside temperature display B14

B1755 Serial interface K2 from Auto AC/ tempmatic control to instrument cluster

B1755 Serial interface K2 from Auto AC/ tempmatic control module to instrument cluster


LWR fault memory

B1480 Left adjustment motor (E1m1) fault in engine path


B1260 sensor faulty axel sensor front A52


A technician advised that there may be an issue with wiring running from #20 fuse. I don't see the affiliation between this fuse and the starter.

Please let me know if anybody has had similar issues and how they fixed it. I would greatly appreciate it. I'm at a dead end. Thank you!
Replace the battery, fuel filter and crank position sensor and report back.
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Old May 17, 2023 | 03:24 PM
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Hey Guys After multiple tests and trouble shooting sequences that the DAS Control Module N54/3 is missing one of the 2 power supplies, they traced the wire and found out that the wire had a cut in and repaired the the wire and now she runs and drives.



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Old May 17, 2023 | 07:55 PM
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Great news! Thanks for updating the thread.
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Old May 25, 2023 | 04:03 PM
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Guys I would like to send my thanks for this great community and thank you to the members who have provided me the confidence to continue this journey with this car.Just noticed that the Oil Pressure Sender Unit is not functioning and I have parked it once again.


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Old Jun 5, 2023 | 01:03 AM
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I’m betting that the engine harness has already been replaced at least once.... They were a big problem back in the ‘80s and 90s.

Ground the lead lead to the oil pressure sender at the sender to see if you have continuity to the gauge.
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Old Mar 22, 2024 | 11:02 AM
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Hey, are you from Toronto area?
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