S-Class (W220) 1999-2006: S 320 CDI, S 320, S430, S 500, S 600

Command Retrofit

Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Has anyone had any success with retrofiting a widescreen command unit ('03 up) into a ('00 to '02)? Thanks!
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Basically the answer is no, unless you're willing to spend an arm and a leg just for it.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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actually the upgrade is not that bad. It is possible on 2001-2002 S classes.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sunman
actually the upgrade is not that bad. It is possible on 2001-2002 S classes.
how soo
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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i saw another post about this and i heard you have to replace everything...
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by koreanpers
i saw another post about this and i heard you have to replace everything...
Which was why I said basically, no.

Anything is possible with money. Technically, it can be done. Realistically, its gonna require a lot of cash and work.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Lightbulb Widescreen COMAND

I think I have the same COMAND (yes, you spelled in incorrectly) that you do. I have not seen the widescreen version, do you happen to have any screenshots to post here?

Also, have you considered just upgrading the entire vehicle to a 2003+? It seems to me that would be much easier.

I am constantly reading posts about upgrading tail-lights, head-lights, plain side rearviews to blinking, old grills to new grills, ad nauseum. Just buy a newer car rather than trying to make a dinosaur look like a newer one.


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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Musikmann
I think I have the same COMAND (yes, you spelled in incorrectly) that you do. I have not seen the widescreen version, do you happen to have any screenshots to post here?

Also, have you considered just upgrading the entire vehicle to a 2003+? It seems to me that would be much easier.

I am constantly reading posts about upgrading tail-lights, head-lights, plain side rearviews to blinking, old grills to new grills, ad nauseum. Just buy a newer car rather than trying to make a dinosaur look like a newer one.

because its cheaper to do some modifications rather then to BUY a new car. its common sense buddy!! and the widescreen command is the navigation thats in the 03+ or version 3.5
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Musikmann
I think I have the same COMAND (yes, you spelled in incorrectly) that you do. I have not seen the widescreen version, do you happen to have any screenshots to post here?

Also, have you considered just upgrading the entire vehicle to a 2003+? It seems to me that would be much easier.

I am constantly reading posts about upgrading tail-lights, head-lights, plain side rearviews to blinking, old grills to new grills, ad nauseum. Just buy a newer car rather than trying to make a dinosaur look like a newer one.

did everything for less then 1200
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Question Common sense

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because its cheaper to do some modifications rather then to BUY a new car. its common sense buddy!! and the widescreen command is the navigation thats in the 03+ or version 3.5
I don't have money to burn, but it just seems senseless to me to install modifications that:

1) Will add negligible value to the car on resale ( a lot of people want OEM stock)
2) Will not be covered by the new car or CPO warranty.

Different strokes for different strokes I guess, and the USA is a free country.

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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:39 PM
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did everything for less then 1200
That sounds like a reasonable price, and it looks like you are satisfied.

Congratulations on your upgrade
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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2003 S classes still had d2b comand units in the car. 2004 and later got MOST based units. Switching to a MOST based unit will require you to change all wiring related to all MOST components and also replace the components themselves to MOST. Swapping a 2003 S comand in a 2001-2002 car requires some wiring knowledge, FAKRA connector, central gateway emulator, upper and lower wood trim.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Musikmann
I don't have money to burn, but it just seems senseless to me to install modifications that:

1) Will add negligible value to the car on resale ( a lot of people want OEM stock)
2) Will not be covered by the new car or CPO warranty.

Different strokes for different strokes I guess, and the USA is a free country.
I buy my cars for me, I was probably one of the few (if any) with 60,000+ miles on a 2002 360 Modena. I bought it to enjoy it, if it doesn't quite fit me..I'll modify until it does. I'm not looking for an asset in an automobile. Just pure fun and personalization!
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by S-Clusiv
I buy my cars for me, I was probably one of the few (if any) with 60,000+ miles on a 2002 360 Modena. I bought it to enjoy it, if it doesn't quite fit me..I'll modify until it does. I'm not looking for an asset in an automobile. Just pure fun and personalization!
i like that attitude; buy a car, modify it to your own style and enjoy it. from now on im gonna try to go with that when im thinking about changing things about my car.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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That sounds like a reasonable price, and it looks like you are satisfied.

Congratulations on your upgrade
yes im very happy but theres also times where i think i should have just bought a newer one for a little more $$ but hey im happy with what i got and u really cant tell unless you know the difference from 02-03 people always ask the year and they always start with 03 or 04
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sunman
2003 S classes still had d2b comand units in the car. 2004 and later got MOST based units. Switching to a MOST based unit will require you to change all wiring related to all MOST components and also replace the components themselves to MOST. Swapping a 2003 S comand in a 2001-2002 car requires some wiring knowledge, FAKRA connector, central gateway emulator, upper and lower wood trim.
Also keep in mind that the 2003 unit (still DB2 based so it's conceivable to do as sunman explains) is still CD-based, still has the slower route computation and still has the old user interface (no "soft buttons"). It's wide-screen but that's about it. I don't think it's that much of an improvement. The '04 COMAND was the big improvement. But as sunman points out, these improvements came with the new fiber bus (MOST) and switching out all of your DB2 consumers for MOST versions (bus controller, CD, phone, VCS and Tele Aid come to mind) is a lot of work.

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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 11:51 PM
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I have a 2003 S430. I would like to switch over to DVD based nav. If I went with a EURO Comand would I also need to switch to the MOST system?
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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I have a 2003 S430. I would like to switch over to DVD based nav. If I went with a EURO Comand would I also need to switch to the MOST system?
Yep. And there is a separate MOST system controller that wasn't used in D2B. And any other consumers (CD, phone, VCS, Tele-aid) would have to be replaced.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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I recently did a widescreen CD NAV upgrade on a 2002 S500. The unit was from a 2003 S class. I'll take some pictures and post shortly. It does compute nav routes a bit faster but overall, same functionality. It looks 150% better. It really cleans the interior up. If you have a 2003 car and want a 2004 and later system, it can be done but it's too expensive. The MOST controller is actually a audio gateway/amplifier combined in one unit. New wiring, fiber loop and replacement of all D2b components to MOST would be required. At a minimum, you would need speaker wiring, comand unit, amp/gateway. CD changer, Teleaid, VCS, Phone would be optional. If someone had a rare W220 S with many options from the 2001-2003 range, it may just be worth the upgrade.

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Just to be clear, the 2003 COMAND is not DVD-based. It's widescreen but still CD-based, and DavidC did ask about DVD nav. There's no way to do that without moving to MOST, which is expensive.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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thanks for the reply.
so my options to get dvd playback are basically shot unless I go aftermarket?
good thing I did not purchase a euro comand!
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I'm not quite clear. Do you want DVD Movie playback or DVD Map? If you have an earlier CD based NAV unit and want to play movies on the screen, there are options available but you'll still have to get an external dvd player.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Sunman, Could I install a 2003 Cd based widescreen comand in my MY 2000 w220 S class?
Where could I buy one if Ican?

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