IS the S65 really worth it or Does the Brabrus SV12 do it just the same?
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IS the S65 really worth it or Does the Brabrus SV12 do it just the same?
I have been reading on the CL65, no review of the S65 just yet but i was wondering why would you want to dish out 195K for the 65 when you can get a 600 for 120 and just go for brabus kit with better numbers. Not to mention it wont go costing you 70K for the kit.
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The 65 Engine puts out 612 horses and 738 foot pounds, 0-60 4.1
BRABUS SV 12 Biturbo increased capacity engine, 640 hp / 471 kW, 1,026 Nm (or 758 foot pounds) from 1.750 rpm, 310 km/h (electronically limited)
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The 65 Engine puts out 612 horses and 738 foot pounds, 0-60 4.1
BRABUS SV 12 Biturbo increased capacity engine, 640 hp / 471 kW, 1,026 Nm (or 758 foot pounds) from 1.750 rpm, 310 km/h (electronically limited)
SV12
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From: Minneeeesoootah
what i would do (if i owned an '03 and up S600) is get $6500 worth of software upgrades form renntech.
625 HP!!!
745 lb. ft. !!!
http://renntechmercedes.com/splash/c...s/s55s600.html
a relative bargain compared to either the 65 or Brabus. just talk to Treynor, whose car was in C&D magazine.
625 HP!!!
745 lb. ft. !!!
http://renntechmercedes.com/splash/c...s/s55s600.html
a relative bargain compared to either the 65 or Brabus. just talk to Treynor, whose car was in C&D magazine.
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Ok thats an even better idea, though i wonder about the tranny since they upgrade it in both the S65 and Brabus to handel the power. It seems 117 for an S600 + 6500 = 123,500 is much better than the 190 region for the S65, that is if it even comes to the US.
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i read 200 CL65' are on thier way here. it was announced the S65 is coming and likely an SL65, as far as numbers i dont know. the CL65 is supposed to start around $180,000. so the S may be about 170k???
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The S600 engine is right on the limit with 580bhp. Just by re-writing the ECU, you're gonna have reliability problems.
The Brabus SV12 cars are just the S600 models with bigger brakes, bigger alloys, bigger engine and a stronger crankshaft. They are not completely built from the ground up and tested like AMG does with all of its cars.
So if you want a powerful S-class car, my choice would be the S65 AMG, no doubt.
The Brabus SV12 cars are just the S600 models with bigger brakes, bigger alloys, bigger engine and a stronger crankshaft. They are not completely built from the ground up and tested like AMG does with all of its cars.
So if you want a powerful S-class car, my choice would be the S65 AMG, no doubt.
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Originally posted by Bilal
The S600 engine is right on the limit with 580bhp. Just by re-writing the ECU, you're gonna have reliability problems.
The Brabus SV12 cars are just the S600 models with bigger brakes, bigger alloys, bigger engine and a stronger crankshaft. They are not completely built from the ground up and tested like AMG does with all of its cars.
So if you want a powerful S-class car, my choice would be the S65 AMG, no doubt.
The S600 engine is right on the limit with 580bhp. Just by re-writing the ECU, you're gonna have reliability problems.
The Brabus SV12 cars are just the S600 models with bigger brakes, bigger alloys, bigger engine and a stronger crankshaft. They are not completely built from the ground up and tested like AMG does with all of its cars.
So if you want a powerful S-class car, my choice would be the S65 AMG, no doubt.
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When will we see a 7.4 W220? W140 7.4's were wonderous cars with naturally aspirated power, the M120 is definately the most refined engine MB has ever built. I would love to see a W220 with a 7.4L M120 engine with two turbos strapped to it......700bhp would be just the beginning...
I contacted this company in ny,(BRI?) and they spoke of building some extreme M120 W220... that would definately compete with Brabus/renntech/carlsson..no? I wonder what would be the cost of such an item.
I contacted this company in ny,(BRI?) and they spoke of building some extreme M120 W220... that would definately compete with Brabus/renntech/carlsson..no? I wonder what would be the cost of such an item.
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Did the Renntech on my S600 (04). Still under full warranty. The transmission can handle power just fine.....note the current AMG and 600 didn't get new 7 speed.
Went to a dragstrip...finally....3.4 second 0-60 was my best and 11.7 in 1/4 was my lowest run. Wasn't using drag radials.
IMO, the current S600 w/ Renntech upgrade is the best value. This baby pulls some serious G's
Went to a dragstrip...finally....3.4 second 0-60 was my best and 11.7 in 1/4 was my lowest run. Wasn't using drag radials.
IMO, the current S600 w/ Renntech upgrade is the best value. This baby pulls some serious G's
