Can you get an S600 with the AMG kit?
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Sport S600 models are available everywhere except US. Sort of offensive move from MB USA Marketing, an easy ploy to steer people toward more-than-$50k-dearer S65. I know there are supposed pluses with the 65, like the bigger brakes and suspension, but for a sedan of this weight class, that is not so relevant. Then again, neither is the sport package, so go figure... maybe it is a smart move
that yields a revenue bump on an already limited V12 market.
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There actually were are few early build U.S. 07's available with the sport package. Not really sure why or how this happened but I had one. I also saw another one for sale on Autotrader. Here is a couple pics of mine.
Never mind "upload of file failed". For some reason I have not been able to upload pics lately. I tried one other time a few weeks back and had the same error???
Never mind "upload of file failed". For some reason I have not been able to upload pics lately. I tried one other time a few weeks back and had the same error???
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I switched front bumper on my '07 CL600
I did a front bumper switch to my 07 CL600 just recently. Incredibly I found an ad for a '08 CL63 AMG bumper on this Forum (from Arizona) a few months back. It was a takeoff from someone who put a Lorinser front aftermarket bumper on his '08 CL63. The bumper was complete - chrome, lights, grilles - which is quite rare to find. And it was the same color as my car - black. The only issue was that it had the six holes for Parktronic which are not necessary in a CL600 since our sensors work via the radar system of the Distronics Plus. Not wanting to fill and repaint the original factory black paint on the AMG bumper, I contacted Erik Sklut at Bumper Plugs and got six bumper plugs in factory black paint. It worked perfectly. It took my independent MB mechanics in Monterey (Marlow Mercedes-Werkes) one morning to make the switch. Believe it or not, the AMG CL63 bumper - complete as you see it - cost me $475, including shipping UPS to Monterey. So my complete cost including labor was around $1100. The chrome trim on the CL63 bumper is particularly pronounced on a black car and it adds an aggressive look to the front of the car which most of my enthusiast friends have found attractive.
Just two years ago I also bought from the same source in Arizona a take-off '08 CL63 AMG sport steering wheel for $275. I posted pictures of that modification one year ago. https://mbworld.org/forums/new-s-cla...n-amg-car.html. This is also a simple change that dramatically improves the look and feel of this vital component in the interior - the steering wheel!
Both changes have changed the character of this incredible v12 and has given this latest CL600 model a look that (I think) might have been preferred by many customers (which wanted v12 power but AMG styling) but were never allowed to order it this way from the factory. Same holds true for the S600. I have a friend in Florida that bought an S600 from a Denver dealer three years ago that the dealership had installed the AMG bumpers/sides front & rear at their shop. It was a more expensive deal but he thought it was well worth the money. To my knowledge, no US S600 was ever delivered from factory to the states with the AMG package. All were modified by dealers after the cars arrived in the US.
Finally, anyone looking for a mint '07 CL600 front bumper in black - complete with chrome & driving lights - I will give a smoking good deal. https://mbworld.org/forums/exterior-...hts-450-a.html. PM or email. I am in Carmel. z356
Just two years ago I also bought from the same source in Arizona a take-off '08 CL63 AMG sport steering wheel for $275. I posted pictures of that modification one year ago. https://mbworld.org/forums/new-s-cla...n-amg-car.html. This is also a simple change that dramatically improves the look and feel of this vital component in the interior - the steering wheel!
Both changes have changed the character of this incredible v12 and has given this latest CL600 model a look that (I think) might have been preferred by many customers (which wanted v12 power but AMG styling) but were never allowed to order it this way from the factory. Same holds true for the S600. I have a friend in Florida that bought an S600 from a Denver dealer three years ago that the dealership had installed the AMG bumpers/sides front & rear at their shop. It was a more expensive deal but he thought it was well worth the money. To my knowledge, no US S600 was ever delivered from factory to the states with the AMG package. All were modified by dealers after the cars arrived in the US.
Finally, anyone looking for a mint '07 CL600 front bumper in black - complete with chrome & driving lights - I will give a smoking good deal. https://mbworld.org/forums/exterior-...hts-450-a.html. PM or email. I am in Carmel. z356
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IMO, '10 S600 is one of world's 3-4 best engineered cars...only real rivals in engineering brilliance are latest S/CL65 and 63 030 and 997GT2
That said, putting an AMG kit on a 600 only exposes its obvious cosmetic (and functional) flaws, like its C300-like brake calipers and puny brakes (esp in context of a 500+hp/600+lb-ft missle)...and advertises driver as a poseur...much cheaper to buy a used, option-free 550 and slap some 65 badges on it![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Even at 70MPH on a busy CA urban fwy, any driver would be far better equipped in a 65 to react in any emergent, evasive maneuver where powerful, smart brakes, perf tires, AMG-calibrated chassis and a grippy sport steering wheel are critical, when 1-2 secs and a few feet of stopping distance advantage can have tremendous implications for one's health (and wealth, given the liability implications for driver of any $150+K car in any collision, no matter fault)
Having owned and extensively driven various new CL550, 63 030, 600 and 65 over past ~3yrs, would argue superior safety value of 65 is worth every penny over any 600 or 550....and life's simply too short to endure the plastic interior and barely adequate tq of 63 030
That said, putting an AMG kit on a 600 only exposes its obvious cosmetic (and functional) flaws, like its C300-like brake calipers and puny brakes (esp in context of a 500+hp/600+lb-ft missle)...and advertises driver as a poseur...much cheaper to buy a used, option-free 550 and slap some 65 badges on it
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Even at 70MPH on a busy CA urban fwy, any driver would be far better equipped in a 65 to react in any emergent, evasive maneuver where powerful, smart brakes, perf tires, AMG-calibrated chassis and a grippy sport steering wheel are critical, when 1-2 secs and a few feet of stopping distance advantage can have tremendous implications for one's health (and wealth, given the liability implications for driver of any $150+K car in any collision, no matter fault)
Having owned and extensively driven various new CL550, 63 030, 600 and 65 over past ~3yrs, would argue superior safety value of 65 is worth every penny over any 600 or 550....and life's simply too short to endure the plastic interior and barely adequate tq of 63 030
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It is nice to hear, after an absence of several months from this Forum, that there is still a constant in all of our lives - WHS' endearing hyperboles. Lucky for me, I have only to contend with little old ladies from Pebble Beach driving at 20 mph to Safeway at the Crossroads to refresh their weekly Vodka supplies. So the puny brakes Mercedes' inattentive lawyers allowed their irresponsible engineers to specified for their 510hp/612 pound torque CL600/S600 models are, fortunately for me, barely adequate to avoid those slow-speed evasive maneuvers, especially when exiting the parking lot. After all, as WHS has probably already informed all of you, TUV in Germany has warned all '07 and later CL600/S600 owners to avoid the autobahns since you surely can't rely on these silly brakes MB puts on their top of the line regular models. So now even the rural country roads in Germany are unsafe due to all of these puny brake 600 Mercedes clogging them up. WHS, a question for you. I know you live in the Peninsula just over the hill from Santa Cruz. Did you get a tad to close to those fires by the Pacific coast where a lot of illegal weed patches hidden in the national public parks went up in smoke? Tell the truth now. I think I can detect a little residue smell of something in your otherwise typical & endearingly arrogant post. z356
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IMO, '10 S600 is one of world's 3-4 best engineered cars...only real rivals in engineering brilliance are latest S/CL65 and 63 030 and 997GT2
That said, putting an AMG kit on a 600 only exposes its obvious cosmetic (and functional) flaws, like its C300-like brake calipers and puny brakes (esp in context of a 500+hp/600+lb-ft missle)...and advertises driver as a poseur...much cheaper to buy a used, option-free 550 and slap some 65 badges on it![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Even at 70MPH on a busy CA urban fwy, any driver would be far better equipped in a 65 to react in any emergent, evasive maneuver where powerful, smart brakes, perf tires, AMG-calibrated chassis and a grippy sport steering wheel are critical, when 1-2 secs and a few feet of stopping distance advantage can have tremendous implications for one's health (and wealth, given the liability implications for driver of any $150+K car in any collision, no matter fault)
Having owned and extensively driven various new CL550, 63 030, 600 and 65 over past ~3yrs, would argue superior safety value of 65 is worth every penny over any 600 or 550....and life's simply too short to endure the plastic interior and barely adequate tq of 63 030
That said, putting an AMG kit on a 600 only exposes its obvious cosmetic (and functional) flaws, like its C300-like brake calipers and puny brakes (esp in context of a 500+hp/600+lb-ft missle)...and advertises driver as a poseur...much cheaper to buy a used, option-free 550 and slap some 65 badges on it
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Even at 70MPH on a busy CA urban fwy, any driver would be far better equipped in a 65 to react in any emergent, evasive maneuver where powerful, smart brakes, perf tires, AMG-calibrated chassis and a grippy sport steering wheel are critical, when 1-2 secs and a few feet of stopping distance advantage can have tremendous implications for one's health (and wealth, given the liability implications for driver of any $150+K car in any collision, no matter fault)
Having owned and extensively driven various new CL550, 63 030, 600 and 65 over past ~3yrs, would argue superior safety value of 65 is worth every penny over any 600 or 550....and life's simply too short to endure the plastic interior and barely adequate tq of 63 030
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All of your posts seem to be repeating everything else your other posts have said. It's getting old.
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In 18,000 miles of driving my S600 I have never, ever, felt that my brakes have been insufficient to stop what is 5000 lb's of sedan safely and quickly. (And most of that is on busy Bay area urban freeways or in hills with lots of bends and twists) Quite the opposite - their stopping power is more than adequate for any sensible driving situations. I hardly think MB would allow an S600 on the Autobahn if they were not engineered for far higher stresses than the tame roads of CA.
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As I previously stated they are some (rare) early build 600's with sport PKG.
There is one listed for sale right now on the east coast on Autotrader.com.
CPO at MB dealer 2007, 8k miles, silver black for $79.9. I spoke to Mike and he indicated $75k. Good deal and super low mi. Some options missing from this car, no pano, no dist, no side shades, no sat radio. These were the same options missing on my car. You can get the sat installed at the dealer
There is one listed for sale right now on the east coast on Autotrader.com.
CPO at MB dealer 2007, 8k miles, silver black for $79.9. I spoke to Mike and he indicated $75k. Good deal and super low mi. Some options missing from this car, no pano, no dist, no side shades, no sat radio. These were the same options missing on my car. You can get the sat installed at the dealer
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As I previously stated they are some (rare) early build 600's with sport PKG.
There is one listed for sale right now on the east coast on Autotrader.com.
CPO at MB dealer 2007, 8k miles, silver black for $79.9. I spoke to Mike and he indicated $75k. Good deal and super low mi. Some options missing from this car, no pano, no dist, no side shades, no sat radio. These were the same options missing on my car. You can get the sat installed at the dealer
There is one listed for sale right now on the east coast on Autotrader.com.
CPO at MB dealer 2007, 8k miles, silver black for $79.9. I spoke to Mike and he indicated $75k. Good deal and super low mi. Some options missing from this car, no pano, no dist, no side shades, no sat radio. These were the same options missing on my car. You can get the sat installed at the dealer
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In 18,000 miles of driving my S600 I have never, ever, felt that my brakes have been insufficient to stop what is 5000 lb's of sedan safely and quickly. (And most of that is on busy Bay area urban freeways or in hills with lots of bends and twists) Quite the opposite - their stopping power is more than adequate for any sensible driving situations. I hardly think MB would allow an S600 on the Autobahn if they were not engineered for far higher stresses than the tame roads of CA.
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I think the same goes for the W221 but I am not sure.
The brakes are fine unless you plan to do repeated stops from speed. The 65 and the 600 likely stop about the same one time from 80 (with equal tires). Try that 3-4 times in a row and the 600's brakes will be smoking and the peddle will go to the floor. The 63 and 65 will just keep stopping as planned.
So for safety alone on American highways the 600's are fine.
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IMO, '10 S600 is one of world's 3-4 best engineered cars...only real rivals in engineering brilliance are latest S/CL65 and 63 030 and 997GT2
That said, putting an AMG kit on a 600 only exposes its obvious cosmetic (and functional) flaws, like its C300-like brake calipers and puny brakes (esp in context of a 500+hp/600+lb-ft missle)...and advertises driver as a poseur...much cheaper to buy a used, option-free 550 and slap some 65 badges on it![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Even at 70MPH on a busy CA urban fwy, any driver would be far better equipped in a 65 to react in any emergent, evasive maneuver where powerful, smart brakes, perf tires, AMG-calibrated chassis and a grippy sport steering wheel are critical, when 1-2 secs and a few feet of stopping distance advantage can have tremendous implications for one's health (and wealth, given the liability implications for driver of any $150+K car in any collision, no matter fault)
Having owned and extensively driven various new CL550, 63 030, 600 and 65 over past ~3yrs, would argue superior safety value of 65 is worth every penny over any 600 or 550....and life's simply too short to endure the plastic interior and barely adequate tq of 63 030
That said, putting an AMG kit on a 600 only exposes its obvious cosmetic (and functional) flaws, like its C300-like brake calipers and puny brakes (esp in context of a 500+hp/600+lb-ft missle)...and advertises driver as a poseur...much cheaper to buy a used, option-free 550 and slap some 65 badges on it
![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Even at 70MPH on a busy CA urban fwy, any driver would be far better equipped in a 65 to react in any emergent, evasive maneuver where powerful, smart brakes, perf tires, AMG-calibrated chassis and a grippy sport steering wheel are critical, when 1-2 secs and a few feet of stopping distance advantage can have tremendous implications for one's health (and wealth, given the liability implications for driver of any $150+K car in any collision, no matter fault)
Having owned and extensively driven various new CL550, 63 030, 600 and 65 over past ~3yrs, would argue superior safety value of 65 is worth every penny over any 600 or 550....and life's simply too short to endure the plastic interior and barely adequate tq of 63 030
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Another worthless post from you. The 600 brakes are perfectly fine for everyday driving. Yes, the S65s are better and what I'd want at the drag strip but to call the C300-esque is getting really boring for all of us.
And of course, the '09 S600's should all be crushed given how archaic and obsolete they now are.
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Another worthless post from you. The 600 brakes are perfectly fine for everyday driving. Yes, the S65s are better and what I'd want at the drag strip but to call the C300-esque is getting really boring for all of us.
And of course, the '09 S600's should all be crushed given how archaic and obsolete they now are.![slap](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/slap.gif)
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Another worthless post from you. The 600 brakes are perfectly fine for everyday driving. Yes, the S65s are better and what I'd want at the drag strip but to call the C300-esque is getting really boring for all of us.
And of course, the '09 S600's should all be crushed given how archaic and obsolete they now are.
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OK I understand some people were adding them. As I said this option was listed from the factory on the VMI on my vehicle and on the subject vehicle on Autotrader. They sold it new: Contemporary Motocars in Erie, PA MB dealer. I spoke with Mike
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I was going to post these before but they wouldn't upload. I just needed reduce the size so here is a factory AMG sport S600. I added the rear spoiler.
2007 early build.
There are a couple more pics from the rear angle under the thread "rear spoiler yes or no"
2007 early build.
There are a couple more pics from the rear angle under the thread "rear spoiler yes or no"
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