dakare46

Looking to put s63 wheels on my car, just worried about all wheel drive system damage, since the car cams with non staggered wheel set from the factory. Please help.

Jason B

Paging Mike to the stage please...

rsr911

I have asked the same question about my 2008 4matic.
Can you - YES

Is it advised - NO not recommended

1bad540

yes its fine! u need a 255 fr and a 275 rr. I run them on my car also a 4matic and also s63 wheels.

dakare46

can you post a pic of your car please

just1time

had them on my 07 s550 4matic for 3years. no problem whatsoever

superpop

The question is, does the diameter have to be the same or is there an acceptable variance on the circumference of the tires. I have heard 3% but also 2% and no %.

Mike5215

The rule is under 3%. Mercedes does stagger wheels on some AWD cars from the factory. I was looking at a C450 and was surprised to see wider rears.

The reason to avoid big variances is that the AWD system has speed sensors at each wheel that are watching for a wheel slipping, which the sensor would report as overspeed and the AWD system would compensate for.

When there's a big variation in rolling diameter between front and rear the AWD system sees this as one axle being continuously in an over or under speed state and is continuously compensating. It's built to compensate in short bursts, so when it works constantly it can burn itself out.

On a 221, if you're running 20" and you select the staggered tire sizes for the non 4Matic car you'll be in safe territory.

If you want to play with other sizes, go to www.1010tire.com for their calculator. It'll report variance for you.

1bad540

sure.

dakare46

Looks perfect, how much should I pay for the set of these? Whats fair?

superpop

I paid 900 bucks for a set of OEM 19" staggered rims, the 20 spoke flavor. Tires were another 1200 bucks for a set of Michelin's. Don't forget lug bolts and potential spacers.

dakare46

what about 20 inch s63 wheels? How much is the fair price?

Jason B

1bad540 ^^

Mike5215

I just sold my set of S63 20's with some minor cosmetic issues for $1k plus shipping. I still have a half set (one front and one rear) freshly reconditioned that are perfect. I'd sell those for $500 plus shipping. You'd need the other two wheels obviously.

dakare46

I like this idea, where are you located?

Mike5215

Gainesville, Florida.

dakare46

I think I need To look for a full set. It will be hard to find one by one

Mike5215

Yeah, tough to find the elusive full set. For around $800 a set that wheel is available as a replica.

dakare46

Can not do replica they never look the same

1bad540

Mine are reps. so far so good. I ran 2 sets of reps 21" on 2 separate 7 series and had a good experience w both. I got these from oem wheels plus. Ill send you the nmbr if you need it.

Mike5215

They look exactly the same down to the AMG stamp on the register. Offset is different by 1mm, otherwise it's hard to tell them apart.

My last set fooled the MB tech, and took zero weights on the balance machine.

1bad540

Mine are 35mm offset all around, which in my opinion is perfect! so no spacers needed to make them flush.

mercedesbenzs55

what's the allure of aftermarket times? Why not just keep them stock?

1bad540

Nothing! My car came with non staggered 19" amgs and I wanted 20" amgs. I hate buying used rims bc theres always an issue, scratched or bent. So a brand new set of factory reps works for me. Plus the rims themseld run in the 800-1k range so its tuff to beat.

Mike5215

This from the Mercedes purist who plans to repair a wrecked S Class with a rubber mallet.