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S600 - How's the reliability after sitting for a while?

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Old 05-24-2017, 09:06 AM
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S600 - How's the reliability after sitting for a while?

I've been considering upgrading my E500 for an S500 or S600 towards the end of this year.

As my car sits for long periods due to a fairly frenetic travel schedule, I've been interested in just how reliable the latest models are when they are sitting around, often for long periods outside.

I came across this video on Youtube of a brand new S600 Maybach. I'm rather appalled to think a modern Benz behaves this way, let alone the flagship of the fleet.


What do you all think? Is this something that might be an issue for someone considering a new S600 whose car will sit for long periods of time, often in cold temperates?

I'd welcome your thoughts because this video simply blew my mind.
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I can see battery problem when a car sits long without starting it up regularly but plume of smoke is something out of Mercedes-Benz World .
My dad's Cadillac Fleetwood sits for days with battery tender plugged in and when we start it it just starts right up
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Well I was not there but given from what I have seen from the video a guy goes into the dealer wanting to video a car. Being a Maybach they do not sell fast or often and it was sitting outside in what looks to be middle of winter and very cold. Battery could of gone flat from not being started or used. Also looks like the person who is making the video does not even know how the push start works. When a car sits and the engine is cold you get smoke from the exhaust and you see it more on a cold day. Like when you exhale in frigid temps. Still trying to figure out what the issue is...
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That's not normal.

We have cars that have been sitting inside the showroom for a year and aside from a dead battery they will start right up normally, that's burning oil smoke from the look of it and not normal at all.

In general, they are quite reliable, electronics are not the best as there are just so many things to act up but overall it's an amazing car, I love the 217/222.
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"Oh my god! look at those fummmes"


That salesman looked like a guy you can trust. LOL!
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Cars like to be driven, otherwise they go bad. Drive and love your S600 if you get one for ****s sake. Life is short. I'm envious that you can even consider buying one.
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That's not normal.

We have cars that have been sitting inside the showroom for a year and aside from a dead battery they will start right up normally, that's burning oil smoke from the look of it and not normal at all.

In general, they are quite reliable, electronics are not the best as there are just so many things to act up but overall it's an amazing car, I love the 217/222.
Not Normal? Do you live in a northern US state or sourthern? Looks like you are in Florida. I have lived in North Dakota, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania. This is very normal in the middle of winter. In fact, if you look at the salesman in the car, you can see "smoke" or "burning oil" coming from his mouth
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Steam on cold start from the exhaust is one thing. Billowing clouds of thick oil smoke is not. There's a difference. The condensation/steam smoke dissipates very rapidly. That lingering smoke is oil burning. It also shouldn't rev like that or stumble and die. My guess would be at some point it was overfilled with oil, or there's something wrong.
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Steam on cold start from the exhaust is one thing. Billowing clouds of thick oil smoke is not. There's a difference. The condensation/steam smoke dissipates very rapidly. That lingering smoke is oil burning. It also shouldn't rev like that or stumble and die. My guess would be at some point it was overfilled with oil, or there's something wrong.
My '14 and '16 S550 4matic looks the same in the middle of a cold winter. So I disagree with your assessment otherwise there is something wrong with both of them. Come to think of it my '08, '06, and '01 S classes looked the same in the middle of winter. Minds can differ but I have had good luck with my S Class motors. Of course, neither of us were there but I hate to run to the conclusion something is wrong because we don't know. The battery clearly had an issue and the guy trying to start the car had no idea how to start it since he held the start button.
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It's nothing but a car that needed cranking. Water condensation has built up in the entire engine system and needed to warm up to burn it off. Battery weak from not being cranked.
This car is in great shape. Buy it and enjoy.
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I did some research on this video and it goes to a you tube channel BusMaster99.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfi...4qIu6lAytL_5wQ

Judging by his videos I highly doubt this person is even considering a Maybach S600 or even a S Class in general. Sorry... Most of the videos are about buses, his 2004 Jaguar XJ8 and also has a obsession with cold starts...

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At around 1 minute into the video, the fellow complains about the smell, which one might think would not be from steam.
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My '14 and '16 S550 4matic looks the same in the middle of a cold winter. So I disagree with your assessment otherwise there is something wrong with both of them. Come to think of it my '08, '06, and '01 S classes looked the same in the middle of winter. Minds can differ but I have had good luck with my S Class motors. Of course, neither of us were there but I hate to run to the conclusion something is wrong because we don't know. The battery clearly had an issue and the guy trying to start the car had no idea how to start it since he held the start button.
This I find interesting, can you elaborate more? The thing that surprised me most that the car actually stalled. This isn't something I've experienced and I'm surprised that with the level of technical advancements that this still happens.

And yes, the less said about the guy who recorded the vid the better
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This I find interesting, can you elaborate more? The thing that surprised me most that the car actually stalled. This isn't something I've experienced and I'm surprised that with the level of technical advancements that this still happens.

And yes, the less said about the guy who recorded the vid the better

I was addressing the point brought up. That is the output from the exhaust pipe.


It certainly is not normal for the car to stall like it did but then again we were not there. Person trying to start the car had no idea how to start the car. The battery appeared to be dead. Maybe that car sat there for 6 months. We do not know. But one thing appears to be certain from my standpoint. The exhaust output appeared to be what happens in cold climates.
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Originally Posted by Peasant88
I've been considering upgrading my E500 for an S500 or S600 towards the end of this year.

As my car sits for long periods due to a fairly frenetic travel schedule, I've been interested in just how reliable the latest models are when they are sitting around, often for long periods outside.

I came across this video on Youtube of a brand new S600 Maybach. I'm rather appalled to think a modern Benz behaves this way, let alone the flagship of the fleet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QaQUwLwjd4

What do you all think? Is this something that might be an issue for someone considering a new S600 whose car will sit for long periods of time, often in cold temperates?

I'd welcome your thoughts because this video simply blew my mind.

The guy that took the video knows nothing about cars.

The smoke right before the "Look at all that smoke" comment is nothing more than condensation.


Given that it took a little cranking to fire up in the cold any non condensation smoke is not a big deal either.

When i used to back my Audi out the garage to wash it and put it back in it would be pain to start the next morning and blow black smoke because of the rich running, otherwise it was clean running and didn't use excessive oil.

No big deal.

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