How Long Do You Plan to Keep Your W222?
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Don't get me wrong, I like mine but I don't see anything about the redesign from the outside that would make someone who loves the 222 HATE the 223...
Inside, they are very different...
Inside, they are very different...
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See, I look at these and say the 222 is the updated version of the more pedestrian 223. It has more presence up front, the headlights are larger and dynamic and the body has that nice crease breaking up the solid slab of the 223. The 222 is a nice evolutionary step up from the 223.
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See, I look at these and say the 222 is the updated version of the more pedestrian 223. It has more presence up front, the headlights are larger and dynamic and the body has that nice crease breaking up the solid slab of the 223. The 222 is a nice evolutionary step up from the 223.
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Even if all of that were true, to say that you hate the exterior of the 223 when you love the 222 just doesn't make any sense to me at all...I can see preferring the 222...like I prefer the refresh 222, but I don't hate the pre-refresh 222...its basically the same car...
To me what feels dated about the 222 is the character lines in the sides, when everything being made right now is totally smooth sided.
To me what feels dated about the 222 is the character lines in the sides, when everything being made right now is totally smooth sided.
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Even if all of that were true, to say that you hate the exterior of the 223 when you love the 222 just doesn't make any sense to me at all...I can see preferring the 222...like I prefer the refresh 222, but I don't hate the pre-refresh 222...
To me what feels dated about the 222 is the character lines in the sides, when everything being made right now is totally smooth sided.
To me what feels dated about the 222 is the character lines in the sides, when everything being made right now is totally smooth sided.
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Even if all of that were true, to say that you hate the exterior of the 223 when you love the 222 just doesn't make any sense to me at all...I can see preferring the 222...like I prefer the refresh 222, but I don't hate the pre-refresh 222...its basically the same car...
To me what feels dated about the 222 is the character lines in the sides, when everything being made right now is totally smooth sided.
To me what feels dated about the 222 is the character lines in the sides, when everything being made right now is totally smooth sided.
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I think the difference is way more pronounced in the lights. When looking at a W222 I can immediately tell that's an S-class from the front lights (especially the facelift models with the 3 stripes) or the rear ones (3 stripes on both pre and post-facelift).
In the new models, I cannot immediately tell that that's a C class or an S-class when looking at it from the rear (and the side for that matter). It's a small thing, but I feel this was what made the W222 stand out whilst W223 tends to look a bit more generic, at least in the photos.
Having said that though... at some point I'll jump to either the W223 or the R232 and whatever the car looks like outside will be of much less importance compared to the interior and the driving feel.
In the new models, I cannot immediately tell that that's a C class or an S-class when looking at it from the rear (and the side for that matter). It's a small thing, but I feel this was what made the W222 stand out whilst W223 tends to look a bit more generic, at least in the photos.
Having said that though... at some point I'll jump to either the W223 or the R232 and whatever the car looks like outside will be of much less importance compared to the interior and the driving feel.
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I think the difference is way more pronounced in the lights. When looking at a W222 I can immediately tell that's an S-class from the front lights (especially the facelift models with the 3 stripes) or the rear ones (3 stripes on both pre and post-facelift).
In the new models, I cannot immediately tell that that's a C class or an S-class when looking at it from the rear (and the side for that matter). It's a small thing, but I feel this was what made the W222 stand out whilst W223 tends to look a bit more generic, at least in the photos.
Having said that though... at some point I'll jump to either the W223 or the R232 and whatever the car looks like outside will be of much importance compared to the interior and the driving feel.
In the new models, I cannot immediately tell that that's a C class or an S-class when looking at it from the rear (and the side for that matter). It's a small thing, but I feel this was what made the W222 stand out whilst W223 tends to look a bit more generic, at least in the photos.
Having said that though... at some point I'll jump to either the W223 or the R232 and whatever the car looks like outside will be of much importance compared to the interior and the driving feel.
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That "wrinkle" you called it, it is back, in the form of a broken shoulder line on the next gen E-Class, the W214 basically. https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post8678258
Well, half a wrinkle, it reminds me of the SLS Gullwing.
Well, half a wrinkle, it reminds me of the SLS Gullwing.
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I think the difference is way more pronounced in the lights. When looking at a W222 I can immediately tell that's an S-class from the front lights (especially the facelift models with the 3 stripes) or the rear ones (3 stripes on both pre and post-facelift).
In the new models, I cannot immediately tell that that's a C class or an S-class when looking at it from the rear (and the side for that matter). It's a small thing, but I feel this was what made the W222 stand out whilst W223 tends to look a bit more generic, at least in the photos.
Having said that though... at some point I'll jump to either the W223 or the R232 and whatever the car looks like outside will be of much importance compared to the interior and the driving feel.
In the new models, I cannot immediately tell that that's a C class or an S-class when looking at it from the rear (and the side for that matter). It's a small thing, but I feel this was what made the W222 stand out whilst W223 tends to look a bit more generic, at least in the photos.
Having said that though... at some point I'll jump to either the W223 or the R232 and whatever the car looks like outside will be of much importance compared to the interior and the driving feel.
Originally Posted by kafklatsch
Show me a large sedan with totally smooth sides, and ill likely show you a less nice car body than the 222
I think it comes down to liking what you have more than there being any real significant objective difference with the 223.
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Hey, you are right. Still, the W222 facelift's 3 stripes headlights are way easier to distinguish it compared to the W223's three dots. I also checked the taillights and I couldn't see any difference, at least nothing of the kind that you can immediately tell what car that is just by throwing a passive glance at them.
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thank you..... can you SHOW me a few large sedans with quote "totally smooth sides".... since this where apparently all new designs have headed.... with the www it should be easy.... but im failing and need your help with finding them... thanks in advance....
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For me the C is relatively easy to tell apart from the S, but the E is similar to it; I rely on the 2 light strips (front or rear) to (quickly) identify it as an E.
Hey, you are right. Still, the W222 facelift's 3 stripes headlights are way easier to distinguish it compared to the W223's three dots. I also checked the taillights and I couldn't see any difference, at least nothing of the kind that you can immediately tell what car that is just by throwing a passive glance at them.
Hey, you are right. Still, the W222 facelift's 3 stripes headlights are way easier to distinguish it compared to the W223's three dots. I also checked the taillights and I couldn't see any difference, at least nothing of the kind that you can immediately tell what car that is just by throwing a passive glance at them.
If you need me to spoon feed you, fine:
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For me the C is relatively easy to tell apart from the S, but the E is similar to it; I rely on the 2 light strips (front or rear) to (quickly) identify it as an E.
Hey, you are right. Still, the W222 facelift's 3 stripes headlights are way easier to distinguish it compared to the W223's three dots. I also checked the taillights and I couldn't see any difference, at least nothing of the kind that you can immediately tell what car that is just by throwing a passive glance at them.
Hey, you are right. Still, the W222 facelift's 3 stripes headlights are way easier to distinguish it compared to the W223's three dots. I also checked the taillights and I couldn't see any difference, at least nothing of the kind that you can immediately tell what car that is just by throwing a passive glance at them.
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SUVs...ummmm No!!!... cars please
And creases in all but the G90...which actually is liked by many ... grill is terrible to me
The rest have wrinkles....and also as stated do not look better than w222
Im done with the topic..... dont care to do back and forth so i will withdraw as i pushed it to start
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The W223 has a character line at the bottom of the door too. If you don't see the trend I am talking about to smoother shapes with less character lines I really don't know what to tell you...
Our cars are not the only attractive cars on the road, sorry. Thats just fanboi nonsense.
Our cars are not the only attractive cars on the road, sorry. Thats just fanboi nonsense.
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I reckon the design trend of having smoother sides (and overall body shape as well) is mainly due to the fact that automobiles are moving from ICE to EVs, where Cd and range are important. And, EVs are generally so quiet that any wind noise/resistance needs to be minimized to maintain the quiet cabin.
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I reckon the design trend of having smoother sides (and overall body shape as well) is mainly due to the fact that automobiles are moving from ICE to EVs, where Cd and range are important. And, EVs are generally so quiet that any wind noise/resistance needs to be minimized to maintain the quiet cabin.
