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Myself I think the Amg line looks a lot better I leave my car in sport suspension mode all the time and being lower like that with the rocker mouldings and rear deck spoiler and front end styling I feel it’s one of the best looking cars I have ever owned plus don’t forget you get those cool air solenoid valves on the mufflers that’s make the car sound better in sport mode m. The 20 inch wheels are beautiful too. The lunar blue has really grown on me too.
I think the preface lift do look better with the sport package.
I’m happy for those who love the look of their AMG Line W222’s, but I prefer my sedans to look more stately, elegant & subtle. In addition, I have a big problem with the pricing of the AMG packages, especially on the S Class. I would venture to guess that the production costs to produce the AMG body panels & wheels are not ten cents more than what it costs to produce the standard parts. MB has truly found a gold mine of extra profit by convincing so many people that opting for the AMG packages will somehow make them look and drive like James Hunt as they cruise down the boulevard.
Well now I know who James Hunt was. Didn't before this post. More of a Senna era.
It is because the AMG options "DOES" make it more sporty. Remember not everyone is 70 years old and some want a more modern or sporty look and feel. It also adds bigger wheels, valved exhaust, etc. Whats the difference what word you assign to it if in the buyers eye it looks better than the standard model than whats the harm? I would never have bough the standard S as to me it looked cheap with the base wheels and no AMG styling but that is a personal choice.
Look at any model besides the S and you will see a huge grille with a HUGE emblem in the center of it that even lights up. The LOOK AT ME I have a Mercedes group. The S is still bought by 50 and up crowd looking for a safe design. It will be interesting to see what the new model will have but I will wager the emblem will be larger and the hood star missing but avail as an option.
Mercedes is switching to sport vs luxury.
Well, demographics are changing too. Since so many S-Class models are purchased in China and their average age appears to be 37, the overall average age has come down dramatically from it's 60+ demographic.
FWIW, I prefer the look of the sport package/wheels. Obviously the price is a rip-off on the material side (expect the costs to be within a few hundred Dollars; primarily for wheels, tires, electronics) but I have seen much worse. Just look at the Porsche 911 sport package. Almost $7k for slightly updated bumpers/side skirt...
i was at my dealer today, and he showed me the screens that are now up for taking pre-orders for the 223. here's a few tidbits for you:
1/ exteriour colours were the normal suspects except iridium silver is now 'hightech silver" and "rubellite red" was a new addition;
2/ interiour colours now add saddle, bengal red, and crystal grey (returns);
3/ amg package remained at $5,900
Clearly once Mercedes decided to offer the star in the grill that was what was primarily stocked. I suspect it was demand driven based on following the C and E class boards. For reasons I don't get (probably because of my 60 year history with the marque) people seem to prefer the star in the grill.
My question to Wolfman was, is that a US thing or is the same true in Germany?
I wish I would know the answer to that. I looked around but there is very little statistical information on options. My personal gut-check would be maybe 10% Classic? In Germany, the avantgarde is the base car, then comes the luxury (classic grill/star) and then the AMG line.
In the US, the pre-facelift W213 E-Class already had the AMG styling by default and the classic was actually more expensive ($350). The E-Class $650 AMG style consisted only the wheels/brakes...
i was at my dealer today, and he showed me the screens that are now up for taking pre-orders for the 223. here's a few tidbits for you:
1/ exteriour colours were the normal suspects except iridium silver is now 'hightech silver" and "rubellite red" was a new addition;
2/ interiour colours now add saddle, bengal red, and crystal grey (returns);
3/ amg package remained at $5,900
no. but you can configure one. then once the banks open (i'm guessing sept after the official reveal?), the dealer submits the configuration and you're in queue.
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
It’s $5,900.00 on the S Class and all you get are DIFFERENT body panels and DIFFERENT wheels. It is a sensational RIP-OFF, but it makes some S Class drivers think they are “sporty.” Boy, am I going to catch hell for this one!
And you still get the star on the hood in either case.
We were talking about the E Class though
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Originally Posted by ajm0623
i was at my dealer today, and he showed me the screens that are now up for taking pre-orders for the 223. here's a few tidbits for you:
1/ exteriour colours were the normal suspects except iridium silver is now 'hightech silver" and "rubellite red" was a new addition;
2/ interiour colours now add saddle, bengal red, and crystal grey (returns);
3/ amg package remained at $5,900
You were looking at the configurator for the 2021 S 560 A convertible. Same car as the 2020 model. There is no information on the 223.
Will the 223 have any wood inside? Everything I've seen so far with a few exceptions indicate no wood (or so minimal I'm missing it). Or will it be tied to a luxury package?
We will see on the 12th of August. There will be an official S-Class interior reveal. So far, not much has been shown and the MBUX demo rig apparently doesn't have the full interior setup. So my hope is more many more elaborate and luxurious interior options...
These partial reveals are somewhat annoying but I understand that Mercedes is not doing an official launch as previously due to COVID.
We will see on the 12th of August. There will be an official S-Class interior reveal. So far, not much has been shown and the MBUX demo rig apparently doesn't have the full interior setup. So my hope is more many more elaborate and luxurious interior options...
These partial reveals are somewhat annoying but I understand that Mercedes is not doing an official launch as previously due to COVID.
Actually I'm surprised they've revealed what they have. I would have thought they would have kept things much tighter sealed.
Agree, I really hope they add some warmth and luxury to the interior.
You were looking at the configurator for the 2021 S 560 A convertible. Same car as the 2020 model. There is no information on the 223.
omg. what a dealer moron - he specifically said it was for the 223 - that's why i was there! my apologies then to this group. mea culpa. not cool, i know. i guess on a positive note - the coupe is not dead then after all!!
omg. what a dealer moron - he specifically said it was for the 223 - that's why i was there! my apologies then to this group. mea culpa. not cool, i know. i guess on a positive note - the coupe is not dead then after all!!
The coupes typically lag the sedans by a year. There was a 2014 CL550
omg. what a dealer moron - he specifically said it was for the 223 - that's why i was there! my apologies then to this group. mea culpa. not cool, i know. i guess on a positive note - the coupe is not dead then after all!!
I don't understand this. Manufacturing for the coupe/cab is ending this month in Germany...
Here is a video that shows more interior and Exterior details up close. It is in german but the captions are mostly coherent. At 4:52 there are interior angles that confirm Red will be an interior option so it seems ajm0623's list could be accurate. In addition this car also seems to be equipped with the Executive rear seat package with individual rear seats. I find the red to be tacky but in a color other than black the interior looks a bit less bland. Excited to see a saddle brown or lighter beige. Worryingly this car has piano black trim all over it and I have yet to see any real wood trims in the prototypes shown so far. Hopefully more high end trim options will be available at launch. Personally I would love to see the return of the Designo metallized ash wood trim and the crystal grey leather.
2020 S560 Sedan, 2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, '24 BMW I7 on order...
I love red interiors, but mostly on convertibles & sporting cars. This shade of red, especially when paired with acres of black, does look tacky to me as well. I’ve always thought of “half black” interiors to be cheap looking—and they ARE! MB saves a ton of money by producing more than half of the interior panels and associated upholstered bits ONLY in black. Cost cutting at its finest and on the MB “flagship” model to boot!
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
I don't understand this. Manufacturing for the coupe/cab is ending this month in Germany...
Yes, those are 2021 models. there was a short run of 21 Coupes and Cabs. The Netstar configurator shows the 21 Coupe and Convertible as buildable. There is no info on the 21 Sedan
Yes, those are 2021 models. there was a short run of 21 Coupes and Cabs. The Netstar configurator shows the 21 Coupe and Convertible as buildable. There is no info on the 21 Sedan
Beware that this last run of (MY21) C217 and A217 models are limited editions.....and not in a good way, but for legal reasons lack several autonomous driving features (see other thread).
I love red interiors, but mostly on convertibles & sporting cars. This shade of red, especially when paired with acres of black, does look tacky to me as well. I’ve always thought of “half black” interiors to be cheap looking—and they ARE! MB saves a ton of money by producing more than half of the interior panels and associated upholstered bits ONLY in black. Cost cutting at its finest and on the MB “flagship” model to boot!
08-07-2020, 12:20 PM
