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Old 09-04-2020, 01:01 PM
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We are adding a second car lift so we could have some more space As much as I like the car, I am hoping for the EQS to fill the sedan slot. Really would like a have a nice EV. But I do like the 580e as an alternative. No AMG needed as we already have fast cars. Also looking forward the next SL...
As mentioned, at that seminar about three years ago, they had the EQS. I did not care for the design, inside or out. I’m sure changes have been made since then. Also, it felt too small, more like an E Class, but very odd looking, IMO. Now, an all electric W223, with 350+ mile range is something I could go for.
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What makes you think the center console is plastic? Doubtful IMO compared to the remaining interior quality. Same as the other elements. We know the the piano black is all wood. My assumption is that it might be metal (similar to the AMG GT center console). I will judge it once we know more or I can see/feel this in the flesh.
We have seen that the Carbon fibre trim also has the center console in carbon fibre.
I get what you mean, guess I was using gloss black plastic as a blanket statement for all shiny black trim. My problem isn't that it is plastic, wood or metal, but that I am not a fan of the gloss black finish in any MB or other manufacturer as it scratches easily, is a pain to keep clean, reflects light, and just gives an overall cheaper look to a cabin. The new Audi's have it really bad as the entire dashboard on the passenger side is gloss black in most new models.
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I had a w222 in 2014 and it was a great car!
I'm a bit confused? I didn't mention the W222 in my post quoted, I mentioned the W220 generation (98-05).
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I'm a bit confused? I didn't mention the W222 in my post quoted, I mentioned the W220 generation (98-05).
I think he was referring to the first year reliability that you are afraid of. The W222 was solid from the get go with very few issue (and minor ones at that) for a new model. Nothing like the W220 or even W221.
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I think he was referring to the first year reliability that you are afraid of. The W222 was solid from the get go with very few issue (and minor ones at that) for a new model. Nothing like the W220 or even W221.
And, the greater world of tech is so much more seasoned now than a decade or two ago. Companies know how to make this stuff bulletproof these days. In addition, I believe troubleshooting is greatly streamlined and repairs mostly involve snapping out the defective widget and snapping in a new one. Don’t I sound like someone trying to rationalize this new car? OK, you caught me.
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And, the greater world of tech is so much more seasoned now than a decade or two ago. Companies know how to make this stuff bulletproof these days. In addition, I believe troubleshooting is greatly streamlined and repairs mostly involve snapping out the defective widget and snapping in a new one. Don’t I sound like someone trying to rationalize this new car? OK, you caught me.
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The real question is how many of you all will be getting one?

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Gonna add another two likes. Just saw the commerical - the one where she describes the car like its her boyfriend - and I'm really liking these multi-spoke wheels and the beige interior with the matte wood trim.





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Gonna add another two likes. Just saw the commerical - the one where she describes the car like its her boyfriend - and I'm really liking these multi-spoke wheels and the beige interior with the matte wood trim.




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I did see pics of a car with the aluminum weave trim and it replaced the gloss black plastic beneath the row of buttons below the screen all the way back to the center console lid. Not sure where I saw it tho. Any help here?
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I did see pics of a car with the aluminum weave trim and it replaced the gloss black plastic beneath the row of buttons below the screen all the way back to the center console lid. Not sure where I saw it tho. Any help here?
This might be what you saw...




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i'm in. lunar blue/ exclusive saddle. going to see the dealer tuesday to see what's what. im sure it's too early but at least then we'll know what the dealers know.
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The things that are very compelling about the new W223 to me, are as follows:

1. Supposed to have a more hushed cabin.
2. Supposed to have better ride quality. Hopefully the new EABC works even better that latest version of MBC.
3. Four wheel steering.
4. Larger trunk.
5. Outstanding interior materials and more “color” when a non-black interior is ordered.

I could do without:

1. Massive touchscreen.
2. Lack of buttons, knobs, switches even if they were redundant.
3. Disintegrated dash design.
4. Tail light design.
5. Extended grille, resulting in a bit of a “snout” look.

Really hoping for:

1. A spare wheel/tire, at least as a factory option.
2. Panorama Roof being optional.
3. 18” wheel option that looks great.
Pretty much covers what I think about it.
In the end, enough dislikes to reject this car as the next daily driver for me (that would be the first S-Class I am not getting, since my initial one, a 1979 450SEL, the only one I bought used).
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In the end, enough dislikes to reject this car as the next daily driver for me
Nah, you're delusional... Just visit your dealer and he'll take it from there, trust me...
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i'm in. lunar blue/ exclusive saddle. going to see the dealer tuesday to see what's what. im sure it's too early but at least then we'll know what the dealers know.
Would love to hear what you learn.
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I guess the big question now is exactly WHEN the Dealer Ordering Guide will be available and just WHEN these cars will begin hitting dealer showrooms in the US. Or, will a ton of the early production go to China?
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Pretty much covers what I think about it.
In the end, enough dislikes to reject this car as the next daily driver for me (that would be the first S-Class I am not getting, since my initial one, a 1979 450SEL, the only one I bought used).
Which way are you thinking of going? Bentley? BMW?
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This might be what you saw...

Carbon Fibre trim. Good example where the center console trim matches the rest of the panels. This one also has the level 3 steering wheel...
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I did see pics of a car with the aluminum weave trim and it replaced the gloss black plastic beneath the row of buttons below the screen all the way back to the center console lid. Not sure where I saw it tho. Any help here?
This will not be plastic. Likely gloss black aluminum...
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The new S class looks to be a technological tour de force. The taillights hearken back to the W126. The W126 will always be my favorite S class. The S class reveal can be found at www.mercedes-benz. com which is MB's international website. There's also an update and test drive of an EQS test mule. The EQS is still a couple of years away.
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I guess the big question now is exactly WHEN the Dealer Ordering Guide will be available and just WHEN these cars will begin hitting dealer showrooms in the US. Or, will a ton of the early production go to China?
We were told to expect the DOG later this month. Pricing will be released closer to launch.
I doubt we will see any of these cars until March or April.
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I will but not until September, 2021 (2022 Model year) when my current lease runs out. I suppose I might have to wait for my car until November, 2021 to arrive after ordering. I can't wait. For me, comfort, technology, and safety mean everything. From the videos I've seen so far it has all these features and then some.
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