Likes, dislikes & hopes on W223........
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Likes, dislikes & hopes on W223........
The things that are very compelling about the new W223 to me, are as follows:
1. Supposed to have a more hushed cabin.
2. Supposed to have better ride quality. Hopefully the new EABC works even better that latest version of MBC.
3. Four wheel steering.
4. Larger trunk.
5. Outstanding interior materials and more “color” when a non-black interior is ordered.
I could do without:
1. Massive touchscreen.
2. Lack of buttons, knobs, switches even if they were redundant.
3. Disintegrated dash design.
4. Tail light design.
5. Extended grille, resulting in a bit of a “snout” look.
Really hoping for:
1. A spare wheel/tire, at least as a factory option.
2. Panorama Roof being optional.
3. 18” wheel option that looks great.
1. Supposed to have a more hushed cabin.
2. Supposed to have better ride quality. Hopefully the new EABC works even better that latest version of MBC.
3. Four wheel steering.
4. Larger trunk.
5. Outstanding interior materials and more “color” when a non-black interior is ordered.
I could do without:
1. Massive touchscreen.
2. Lack of buttons, knobs, switches even if they were redundant.
3. Disintegrated dash design.
4. Tail light design.
5. Extended grille, resulting in a bit of a “snout” look.
Really hoping for:
1. A spare wheel/tire, at least as a factory option.
2. Panorama Roof being optional.
3. 18” wheel option that looks great.
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Likes:
-Yacht Inspired Interior Design
-More Interior Color Choices
-AMG Exterior Design and Sleek Side Profile
-V6 Replaced with I6 and New PHEV Model
-More and Better Looking Wheel Designs
-Rear Axle Steering/Likely Improved Handling
Dislikes:
-Taillights need to Grow on Me
-"Luxury" Exterior Styling and Steering Wheel
-Loss of 27 Physical Controls
-Gloss Black Plastic
-Gear Selector Still has too much Plastic
-First Year Reliability will most likely be a PITA
Really Hoping For:
-New MBUX will be very Intuitive
-Emerald Green Exterior will still be Available
-Won't end up like another W220/Not many Gremlins
-Yacht Inspired Interior Design
-More Interior Color Choices
-AMG Exterior Design and Sleek Side Profile
-V6 Replaced with I6 and New PHEV Model
-More and Better Looking Wheel Designs
-Rear Axle Steering/Likely Improved Handling
Dislikes:
-Taillights need to Grow on Me
-"Luxury" Exterior Styling and Steering Wheel
-Loss of 27 Physical Controls
-Gloss Black Plastic
-Gear Selector Still has too much Plastic
-First Year Reliability will most likely be a PITA
Really Hoping For:
-New MBUX will be very Intuitive
-Emerald Green Exterior will still be Available
-Won't end up like another W220/Not many Gremlins
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Likes:
-Yacht Inspired Interior Design
-More Interior Color Choices
-AMG Exterior Design and Sleek Side Profile
-V6 Replaced with I6 and New PHEV Model
-More and Better Looking Wheel Designs
-Rear Axle Steering/Likely Improved Handling
Dislikes:
-Taillights need to Grow on Me
-"Luxury" Exterior Styling and Steering Wheel
-Loss of 27 Physical Controls
-Gloss Black Plastic
-Gear Selector Still has too much Plastic
-First Year Reliability will most likely be a PITA
Really Hoping For:
-New MBUX will be very Intuitive
-Emerald Green Exterior will still be Available
-Won't end up like another W220/Not many Gremlins
-Yacht Inspired Interior Design
-More Interior Color Choices
-AMG Exterior Design and Sleek Side Profile
-V6 Replaced with I6 and New PHEV Model
-More and Better Looking Wheel Designs
-Rear Axle Steering/Likely Improved Handling
Dislikes:
-Taillights need to Grow on Me
-"Luxury" Exterior Styling and Steering Wheel
-Loss of 27 Physical Controls
-Gloss Black Plastic
-Gear Selector Still has too much Plastic
-First Year Reliability will most likely be a PITA
Really Hoping For:
-New MBUX will be very Intuitive
-Emerald Green Exterior will still be Available
-Won't end up like another W220/Not many Gremlins
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The excessive amount of black gloss trim truly cheapens this interior. It makes me wonder if MY 22 will feature a wood option similar to when they dumped the black gloss in the e class center console after 1 year? I suppose we will need to see how it looks in person...
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I dislike the diamond seat design it is dated and they should have come up with a more exclusive design.
I think its a sharp car although wish iy was more S class distinctive but get they sell more lower end models now.
So what will the mark up be in SOCAL ???$50K??
I think its a sharp car although wish iy was more S class distinctive but get they sell more lower end models now.
So what will the mark up be in SOCAL ???$50K??
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Well, it is not plastic, but piano black finished wood, in a high gloss. We have it in our 2019 wagon. It’s not my favorite, but it does not make me think “plastic” when looking at it.
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We have seen that the Carbon fibre trim also has the center console in carbon fibre.
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Well, I believe that the diamond stitch has now become sort of a standard look, synonymous with high end, MB luxury. I don’t see it going away anytime soon and I must say that I think it looks great in the new S. As far as markups go, I’ve never paid one and never will. If my dealer tries that with me, they will be losing a very good, long time customer. I’m sure some guys will pay big markups over at Fletcher Jones, just so they can be the “first kid on the block” to have one. Not me.
Love the diamond stitching myself but would wish MB would offer some alternate patterns like Bentley or even our M8...
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We are adding a second car lift so we could have some more space As much as I like the car, I am hoping for the EQS to fill the sedan slot. Really would like a have a nice EV. But I do like the 580e as an alternative. No AMG needed as we already have fast cars. Also looking forward the next SL...
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Couple of things I would like...
Digital light headlights are fantastic and game changers from a safety perspective. Rest assured, they will not be available or disabled due to ancient outdated DOT regulations. If disabled, at least they should be software updatable.
Wireless CarPlay. I assume the car has it but may have overlooked any info on it.
Proximity door locking/unlocking. I have seen the door handles pop out but in the demos this was due to a button press rather than just walking towards or away from the car
Digital light headlights are fantastic and game changers from a safety perspective. Rest assured, they will not be available or disabled due to ancient outdated DOT regulations. If disabled, at least they should be software updatable.
Wireless CarPlay. I assume the car has it but may have overlooked any info on it.
Proximity door locking/unlocking. I have seen the door handles pop out but in the demos this was due to a button press rather than just walking towards or away from the car
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The back of the car looks like a 15 yr old honda accord and that "tuxedo" black line trim is very tacky. Hard to complain about too much else. Very nice, understated car.
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Likes:
-Yacht Inspired Interior Design
-More Interior Color Choices
-AMG Exterior Design and Sleek Side Profile
-V6 Replaced with I6 and New PHEV Model
-More and Better Looking Wheel Designs
-Rear Axle Steering/Likely Improved Handling
Dislikes:
-Taillights need to Grow on Me
-"Luxury" Exterior Styling and Steering Wheel
-Loss of 27 Physical Controls
-Gloss Black Plastic
-Gear Selector Still has too much Plastic
-First Year Reliability will most likely be a PITA
Really Hoping For:
-New MBUX will be very Intuitive
-Emerald Green Exterior will still be Available
-Won't end up like another W220/Not many Gremlins
-Yacht Inspired Interior Design
-More Interior Color Choices
-AMG Exterior Design and Sleek Side Profile
-V6 Replaced with I6 and New PHEV Model
-More and Better Looking Wheel Designs
-Rear Axle Steering/Likely Improved Handling
Dislikes:
-Taillights need to Grow on Me
-"Luxury" Exterior Styling and Steering Wheel
-Loss of 27 Physical Controls
-Gloss Black Plastic
-Gear Selector Still has too much Plastic
-First Year Reliability will most likely be a PITA
Really Hoping For:
-New MBUX will be very Intuitive
-Emerald Green Exterior will still be Available
-Won't end up like another W220/Not many Gremlins
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Quilted seating is a timeless design that will never get old. Doesn't get more opulent. It would be nice to see more choices though.
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