There is global shortage from the massage seat suppler, initially MB removed all the massage seats from all the other models and trying to keep the massage seats with all new 2021 S class. However, there is a chance they will remove the massage seats from the S class as well by not holding the production. Please call your dealer so you do get any surprise.
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My dealer said not to worry, my car has been produced. Waiting for a ship, there is a shortage of those, too!
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Gee... Shortage of this, shortage of that... What's the world coming to?
Atleast, for now, the car is still in production. There is a worldwide shortage of computer chips that go into cars and electronics. Around the world this is causing production of cars to be halted and restarted. Crazy world!
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Gee... Shortage of this, shortage of that... What's the world coming to?
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Interesting, I got my S500 on the 1st March and its back into the dealer today for a front seatbelt malfunction fault... not a great start but i fear the first of many electrical issues..
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Good luck. Early models of a massively tech'd out car like this will have issues.Originally Posted by kraetos10
Interesting, I got my S500 on the 1st March and its back into the dealer today for a front seatbelt malfunction fault... not a great start but i fear the first of many electrical issues..
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That's a gross overgeneralization. Several first year model cars that are highly tech'd out don't have teething issues like this. It's sort of sad MB owners have come to expect this. I do not recall the W222 having issues like this, nor the 221. The 220 (yes, but that was to be expected given the cost reductions during that decade).Originally Posted by places
Good luck. Early models of a massively tech'd out car like this will have issues.
I would love to know what the R&D/testing budget is of the 223, or how many 'millions of miles' it incurred during testing prior to series production.
Another example was the 204 when that was launched. Didn't it go through like 5 million miles of testing or whatever? Sure, not a technologically crazy car, but at the time, Mercedes took testing really seriously, and it showed from a reliability perspective, first year or not.
If you boil down the S class (223) to the core and disregard the large iPad screens and the software related bugs, you're not really dealing with a technologically advanced car (to the point where it's an anomaly). 48V mild hybridization, rear wheel steering are things that have been on the market a few years now. (same with pop out door handles).
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I would love to know what the R&D/testing budget is of the 223, or how many 'millions of miles' it incurred during testing prior to series production.
Another example was the 204 when that was launched. Didn't it go through like 5 million miles of testing or whatever? Sure, not a technologically crazy car, but at the time, Mercedes took testing really seriously, and it showed from a reliability perspective, first year or not.
If you boil down the S class (223) to the core and disregard the large iPad screens and the software related bugs, you're not really dealing with a technologically advanced car (to the point where it's an anomaly). 48V mild hybridization, rear wheel steering are things that have been on the market a few years now. (same with pop out door handles).
You deduce all that from a single comment by a new owner without any specific details? Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
That's a gross overgeneralization. Several first year model cars that are highly tech'd out don't have teething issues like this. It's sort of sad MB owners have come to expect this. I do not recall the W222 having issues like this, nor the 221. The 220 (yes, but that was to be expected given the cost reductions during that decade).I would love to know what the R&D/testing budget is of the 223, or how many 'millions of miles' it incurred during testing prior to series production.
Another example was the 204 when that was launched. Didn't it go through like 5 million miles of testing or whatever? Sure, not a technologically crazy car, but at the time, Mercedes took testing really seriously, and it showed from a reliability perspective, first year or not.
If you boil down the S class (223) to the core and disregard the large iPad screens and the software related bugs, you're not really dealing with a technologically advanced car (to the point where it's an anomaly). 48V mild hybridization, rear wheel steering are things that have been on the market a few years now. (same with pop out door handles).
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Uhh no. The teething issues have been discussed not just with the one comment in this thread but also in early reviews of which I recently posted about. Originally Posted by Wolfman
You deduce all that from a single comment by a new owner without any specific details?
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Not really a review. I suggest to wait for actual members here to post their real-life experiences, good and bad. Just like they do in Audi forums...Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
Uhh no. The teething issues have been discussed not just with the one comment in this thread but also in early reviews of which I recently posted about.
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I would love to know what the R&D/testing budget is of the 223, or how many 'millions of miles' it incurred during testing prior to series production.
Another example was the 204 when that was launched. Didn't it go through like 5 million miles of testing or whatever? Sure, not a technologically crazy car, but at the time, Mercedes took testing really seriously, and it showed from a reliability perspective, first year or not.
If you boil down the S class (223) to the core and disregard the large iPad screens and the software related bugs, you're not really dealing with a technologically advanced car (to the point where it's an anomaly). 48V mild hybridization, rear wheel steering are things that have been on the market a few years now. (same with pop out door handles).
Look, these cars are getting more complicated. More connected, more processors, and more hybrid technology all working together. There are bound to the issues. I am no tech expert but I can't imagine "Hey Mercedes" won't have it's own issues. In the end the S will likely remain the bar in the luxury car world but I cant see this launch not having issues. Until then, we will purely speculate.Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
That's a gross overgeneralization. Several first year model cars that are highly tech'd out don't have teething issues like this. It's sort of sad MB owners have come to expect this. I do not recall the W222 having issues like this, nor the 221. The 220 (yes, but that was to be expected given the cost reductions during that decade).I would love to know what the R&D/testing budget is of the 223, or how many 'millions of miles' it incurred during testing prior to series production.
Another example was the 204 when that was launched. Didn't it go through like 5 million miles of testing or whatever? Sure, not a technologically crazy car, but at the time, Mercedes took testing really seriously, and it showed from a reliability perspective, first year or not.
If you boil down the S class (223) to the core and disregard the large iPad screens and the software related bugs, you're not really dealing with a technologically advanced car (to the point where it's an anomaly). 48V mild hybridization, rear wheel steering are things that have been on the market a few years now. (same with pop out door handles).
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