Rear axle steering - 4.5 degree
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2022 - S580 and 2019 Porsche Carrera S Cabriolet
Rear axle steering - 4.5 degree
Rear axle steering and eABC are among the two best options I purchased on my 2020 S580 car. It makes a huge difference compared to my 2020 S560. The rear wheel steering allows for nice, tight turning on corners and parking (not too noticeable at speed).
Last week I got a message that “The maximum steering angle of the rear axle steering is restricted. Turning radius increased”. The car had been parked overnight and there were no visible restrictions. By the time I got it to the dealer a few days later, the problem had resolved itself. Dealer is not aware of this as an issue.
Has anyone else experienced this?
One other issue: Occasionally when I put the car in gear, F or R, the emergency brake sticks for a split second with a loud sound as it releases. Dealer says it’s normal.
Has anyone experience this issue?
Last week I got a message that “The maximum steering angle of the rear axle steering is restricted. Turning radius increased”. The car had been parked overnight and there were no visible restrictions. By the time I got it to the dealer a few days later, the problem had resolved itself. Dealer is not aware of this as an issue.
Has anyone else experienced this?
One other issue: Occasionally when I put the car in gear, F or R, the emergency brake sticks for a split second with a loud sound as it releases. Dealer says it’s normal.
Has anyone experience this issue?
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Didn't the workshop read fault codes after the rear axle steering issue? If there is a message for the driver, the car would certainly have a fault code saved.
Had the car been washed or driven in rain when the emergency brake gave the loud sound? The brake pads may have been glued by water/rust to the brake disk.
Had the car been washed or driven in rain when the emergency brake gave the loud sound? The brake pads may have been glued by water/rust to the brake disk.
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Didn't the workshop read fault codes after the rear axle steering issue? If there is a message for the driver, the car would certainly have a fault code saved.
Had the car been washed or driven in rain when the emergency brake gave the loud sound? The brake pads may have been glued by water/rust to the brake disk.
Had the car been washed or driven in rain when the emergency brake gave the loud sound? The brake pads may have been glued by water/rust to the brake disk.
On the first issue, they claim there was no code. But, took photos of the screen both during the fault and without the fault, now.
On the second issue, yes, more noticeable after raining, but does happen from time to time. Dealer suggested it is pretty “normal”.
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Got a similar message once when the vehicle was going thru the auto car wash's track/ guide rails. Haven' seen it since. Were you up against a curb?
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hi...can i suggest this test, with engine on...and have someone standing outside the car to observe the rear wheels:
leave it in park, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
leave it in neutral, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
now try to do the same, but with car in drive, with foot on brake.
do the same, but in reverse, with foot on brake.
if i'm not mistaken, i believe the rear wheels will only engage in steering when in drive or reverse, but not in park or neutral.
and when u try to rotate the steering wheel all the way into either direction in either park or neutral, the message you posted in the photo is what appears.
run this test and let us know what you experience.
good luck!
leave it in park, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
leave it in neutral, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
now try to do the same, but with car in drive, with foot on brake.
do the same, but in reverse, with foot on brake.
if i'm not mistaken, i believe the rear wheels will only engage in steering when in drive or reverse, but not in park or neutral.
and when u try to rotate the steering wheel all the way into either direction in either park or neutral, the message you posted in the photo is what appears.
run this test and let us know what you experience.
good luck!
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hi...can i suggest this test, with engine on...and have someone standing outside the car to observe the rear wheels:
leave it in park, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
leave it in neutral, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
now try to do the same, but with car in drive, with foot on brake.
do the same, but in reverse, with foot on brake.
if i'm not mistaken, i believe the rear wheels will only engage in steering when in drive or reverse, but not in park or neutral.
and when u try to rotate the steering wheel all the way into either direction in either park or neutral, the message you posted in the photo is what appears.
run this test and let us know what you experience.
good luck!
leave it in park, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
leave it in neutral, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
now try to do the same, but with car in drive, with foot on brake.
do the same, but in reverse, with foot on brake.
if i'm not mistaken, i believe the rear wheels will only engage in steering when in drive or reverse, but not in park or neutral.
and when u try to rotate the steering wheel all the way into either direction in either park or neutral, the message you posted in the photo is what appears.
run this test and let us know what you experience.
good luck!
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Rear axle steering and eABC are among the two best options I purchased on my 2020 S580 car. It makes a huge difference compared to my 2020 S560. The rear wheel steering allows for nice, tight turning on corners and parking (not too noticeable at speed).
Last week I got a message that “The maximum steering angle of the rear axle steering is restricted. Turning radius increased”. The car had been parked overnight and there were no visible restrictions. By the time I got it to the dealer a few days later, the problem had resolved itself. Dealer is not aware of this as an issue.
Has anyone else experienced this?
One other issue: Occasionally when I put the car in gear, F or R, the emergency brake sticks for a split second with a loud sound as it releases. Dealer says it’s normal.
Has anyone experience this issue?
Last week I got a message that “The maximum steering angle of the rear axle steering is restricted. Turning radius increased”. The car had been parked overnight and there were no visible restrictions. By the time I got it to the dealer a few days later, the problem had resolved itself. Dealer is not aware of this as an issue.
Has anyone else experienced this?
One other issue: Occasionally when I put the car in gear, F or R, the emergency brake sticks for a split second with a loud sound as it releases. Dealer says it’s normal.
Has anyone experience this issue?
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Rear axle steering and eABC are among the two best options I purchased on my 2020 S580 car. It makes a huge difference compared to my 2020 S560. The rear wheel steering allows for nice, tight turning on corners and parking (not too noticeable at speed).
Last week I got a message that “The maximum steering angle of the rear axle steering is restricted. Turning radius increased”. The car had been parked overnight and there were no visible restrictions. By the time I got it to the dealer a few days later, the problem had resolved itself. Dealer is not aware of this as an issue.
Has anyone else experienced this?
One other issue: Occasionally when I put the car in gear, F or R, the emergency brake sticks for a split second with a loud sound as it releases. Dealer says it’s normal.
Has anyone experience this issue?
Last week I got a message that “The maximum steering angle of the rear axle steering is restricted. Turning radius increased”. The car had been parked overnight and there were no visible restrictions. By the time I got it to the dealer a few days later, the problem had resolved itself. Dealer is not aware of this as an issue.
Has anyone else experienced this?
One other issue: Occasionally when I put the car in gear, F or R, the emergency brake sticks for a split second with a loud sound as it releases. Dealer says it’s normal.
Has anyone experience this issue?
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hi...can i suggest this test, with engine on...and have someone standing outside the car to observe the rear wheels:
leave it in park, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
leave it in neutral, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
now try to do the same, but with car in drive, with foot on brake.
do the same, but in reverse, with foot on brake.
if i'm not mistaken, i believe the rear wheels will only engage in steering when in drive or reverse, but not in park or neutral.
and when u try to rotate the steering wheel all the way into either direction in either park or neutral, the message you posted in the photo is what appears.
run this test and let us know what you experience.
good luck!
leave it in park, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
leave it in neutral, then try to turn steering wheel fully in either direction.
now try to do the same, but with car in drive, with foot on brake.
do the same, but in reverse, with foot on brake.
if i'm not mistaken, i believe the rear wheels will only engage in steering when in drive or reverse, but not in park or neutral.
and when u try to rotate the steering wheel all the way into either direction in either park or neutral, the message you posted in the photo is what appears.
run this test and let us know what you experience.
good luck!
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Joined: Dec 2022
Posts: 173
Likes: 26
From: ukraine
S580 MAYBACH Z223
Rear axle steering and eABC are among the two best options I purchased on my 2020 S580 car. It makes a huge difference compared to my 2020 S560. The rear wheel steering allows for nice, tight turning on corners and parking (not too noticeable at speed).
Last week I got a message that “The maximum steering angle of the rear axle steering is restricted. Turning radius increased”. The car had been parked overnight and there were no visible restrictions. By the time I got it to the dealer a few days later, the problem had resolved itself. Dealer is not aware of this as an issue.
Has anyone else experienced this?
One other issue: Occasionally when I put the car in gear, F or R, the emergency brake sticks for a split second with a loud sound as it releases. Dealer says it’s normal.
Has anyone experience this issue?
Last week I got a message that “The maximum steering angle of the rear axle steering is restricted. Turning radius increased”. The car had been parked overnight and there were no visible restrictions. By the time I got it to the dealer a few days later, the problem had resolved itself. Dealer is not aware of this as an issue.
Has anyone else experienced this?
One other issue: Occasionally when I put the car in gear, F or R, the emergency brake sticks for a split second with a loud sound as it releases. Dealer says it’s normal.
Has anyone experience this issue?
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