bishop64

This fellow member posted in the General Mercedes section.
I link it here for easier discussion:-

https://mbworld.org/forums/general-m...otal-loss.html

I think if ''totaled'' means the repair cost exceeds the value of the car, then I think the chance of a total loss is not likely as the 2022 S580 still has a fairly good market value.
Even with the deployment of 2 airbags (which are basically triggered by sensors, not necessarily indicating the severity of the impact), the damage does not look too severe.
Of course, it is hard to be sure there is no structural damage until a full inspection is done.

Munich77

Agreed. Poor guy so. I hope he is okay. The car can be fixed or replaced.

bishop64

You can see the icy patch still on the road surface in the pics. Quite a large area.
It seems the icy patch is mainly on the right and middle lanes while the left lane looks OK.

Does the tyre look like All Season? Seems not.
Even with 4Matic, there is really nothing much that one can do, except perhaps to drive slower than usual?

Baloo588

Yeah those are all season 20s. Even with winter tires hitting an ice patch can be tricky.

Bubba1

Assuming tires are all seasons (I have 20” all seasons on mine and live in a winter wonderland) do you think winters would have made a significant difference?

I’ve thought about putting winters on mine but haven’t done so. Car seems to hold the road in wintry conditions pretty well. I’m also typically away for a chunk of the winter.

Baloo588

Given that you are away most of the winter and you are satisfied so far I would stick with the all seasons. I drive 90 miles a day on highway during winter Mon to Fri so I need the winters. Its substantially better than any all seasons especially my Bronco on all seasons. Its much more grippier in snow and ice and gives a lot of control on bad days.

jasonbessey

This was my car. Rainy, windy conditions with temperatures on the verge of snow/ice (probably about 37 degrees). Roads were wet, but mostly fine. I was in the left lane lane and hit a little patch of ice/slush. Almost managed to correct the skid, but ended up in the barrier on the right. Dash cam has me hitting it at about 40 MPH head-on. Winter tires were not going to save this. I've driven in much worse weather on all season tires without any issues.

I'm fine fortunately outside of a sore neck. Fortunately, road was pretty empty so no other cars involved.

I think they'll probably try to repair it, but I do worry about the amount of internal damage. We'll see once it gets to the shop tomorrow.

bishop64

This is the main thing. Cars come and go...a healthy body stays with you and is much more important. Do keep an eye on your neck a little bit longer.

jasonbessey

Agree. I’m happy to have walked away and that no other cars were involved. I’m a spine surgeon so I’ve kept a close eye on my neck 😉. Fortunately back to normal!

crabman

A spine doctor... I've got a question for you: There was a story told in which a poster claimed he had broken every single vertebrae in his spine (among many other injuries) in an accident and lived. Is this possible?

jasonbessey

seems unlikely. I’ve seen plenty of bad injuries, but never anybody who managed to break every bone in the spine…

W205C43PFL

OP, glad you were fine, like others said glad you were fine and that you walked away from this unscathed. Cars can be replaced, lives can't, hopefully your neck pain heals swiftly.

W205C43PFL

I don't know if it was appropriate for me to bring this thread back up, I am not going to comment the authenticity of OP's injuries but since you mentioned it, I realized I did recall seeing this thread a few months back and I think this is what you were referring to? (Graphical content in original post of the linked thread)


crabman

Yeah, I wasn't looking to dredge that mess up though; I just recalled it when be mentioned his specialty and remembered wondering if it was possible. While it seemed incredibly unlikely, if not impossible, I'm no expert. This fellow is, so, figured I'd ask.

W205C43PFL

Yup I understand, I mean you got me curious as well and I too want to hear an expert opinion, I won't comment on the authenticity of that injury over on the other thread but I am curious George... so....

jasonbessey

Update....

Car is at a Mercedes-certified collision center. Progressive thinks repairable (to total they would need a repair bill of more than ~70k), but needs a teardown and estimate first. Manager at collision center thinks 40-60K.

Big hiccup. The pyro fuse tripped with airbag deployment, and the electronic systems can't be powered on. The collision center is going to drag the car into the garage to start with an estimate, but clearly can't know true extent of damage until electronic systems are online. MB says the part is not available and there is no estimate when it will be. Anybody with advice on how this could be escalated with MB? As much as I love the fuel efficiency, I'm getting a bit tired of driving my rental Hyundai .

W205C43PFL

Thanks for the update, sorry to hear about you dealing with part shortages, I would had at least hoped they offered you another MB as a loaner.

jasonbessey

Hard to believe Mercedes would loan me a car to replace a damaged car at a collision center, but let me know if this is a true fantasy. I'm currently renting a car through my car insurance, but coverage for that will end in a couple weeks. I'll be on my own at that point.

W205C43PFL

I would had thought that some insurance actually states they will loan you a same value or same brand vehicle in the event a vehicle needs to be repaired, but that is rare. What I don't understand is if it is a certified MB collision shop, shouldn't they be loaning you something, also I don't understand why would your coverage end if the vehicle is not yet finished its repair. Hopefully something works in your favour.

jasonbessey

Rental reimbursement is for a limited amount over a specified number of days. Can't imagine what the premium would be for an insurance policy that guaranteed an S-class replacement.

Collision center has no obligation or incentive to give me a loaner car. They are certified by Mercedes, but they are not an affiliate. Local Mercedes dealers provide loaners through agreements with MB and then flip them and sell as CPO.

Anyway, back to the original question. Can I pressure MB to get this part to get my car powered on? It's one fuse. They are currently manufacturing these cars, so it can't be that hard to source...

W205C43PFL

I was hoping at least an MB.

I see that explains why.

Doesn't hurt to try I think...

jasonbessey

True. Doesn't hurt to ask.

W205C43PFL

Hopefully it works out, please keep us posted.