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Old 06-18-2023, 04:56 PM
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Stream, did you ever get your car back? I might have missed it.
Did they agree to the buyback? Wasn’t it in service for over a month for just this one problem?
My California Closets girl has a 2022 S500 (who knew they did that well?!) and the check engine light won’t go off so they are buying hers back. I told her your story…she’s going Range Rover next.
Yes, I got it back 30 days after it was towed in. Prior to this incident, the car had been in the shop, on and off, for another almost 20 days. In California, a vehicle that has been “out of service” for a total of more than 30 days, for non-regularly scheduled maintenance, is considered a Lemon. MBUSA knows this, but they are still “researching” to see if my car qualifies for a repurchase. I expect to have word from them in approximately two weeks. If they deny the buy-back, that day I hire a Lemon Law attorney. I am all over the place thinking about a replacement. From a used W222, to a new S500, to a Genesis G90, to an EQS SUV.
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They make TONS of money...so much profit in those closet systems its shocking.
Absolutely. We have done a couple of closets with them and the bottom line is we have never found another company that has such nice products, so well thought out designs and does the installations in an almost “surgically” clean manner.
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Absolutely. We have done a couple of closets with them and the bottom line is we have never found another company that has such nice products, so well thought out designs and does the installations in an almost “surgically” clean manner.
Yes my wife's friend spoke very highly of them as well. She was particularly complementary to their commitment to getting the job done as they promised.
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Never understood the allure of California Closets because it has a 'builder' or 'spec-home' look; is it only popular down south because it's American and it's more affordable than the European systems?

The Italian systems from the likes of Porro and Poliform are much nicer both in term of quality and aesthetics, but granted you'll pay at least 2-5x more than something similar from CC; I guess you get what you pay for
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Mrs Crab is looking at Porro and others (compared to custom) for a remodel that we have going on, they're not giving it away, I'll say that.
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To an EQS SUV.
I have to say the EQS SUV is pretty nice. Definitely my pick of the EQ models and closer to an S-Class SUV than a GLS too. While it may not be an S-Class exactly, have you considered taking advantage of the EQS lease deals?

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Absolutely. We have done a couple of closets with them and the bottom line is we have never found another company that has such nice products, so well thought out designs and does the installations in an almost “surgically” clean manner.
Thats true, but you absolutely pay for it.
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That they paid $25,000 for lol
I remember my BIL showing me their bedroom closet and telling me that I was staring at $100K.

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I remember my BIL showing me their bedroom closet and telling me that I was staring at $100K.
That closet better be 2000 sqft.
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That closet better be 2000 sqft.
LOL. Not even close... It did have a coffee station for my sister...
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I remember my BIL showing me their bedroom closet and telling me that I was staring at $100K.
I believe it!

And thats why aypues' CC girl has an S Class lol

Every watch Modern Family? The rich dad that Ed O'Neil played did custom closets.

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Old 06-19-2023, 05:16 PM
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I remember my BIL showing me their bedroom closet and telling me that I was staring at $100K.
Well, you guys who live in most places other than Southern California, can have walk in closets where you can land a plane. Out here in LA-LA Land, probably the average California Closet is around $25 to $35K.
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Something in a similar configuration as this with approximately 25 linear feet from Porro would cost 250k+ here in Vancouver. It's a fantastic system designed by Piero Lissoni with stitched leather shelves and is quite popular along with the ones from Poliform and Giellesse. Not sure if the msrp is similar in the states or there's just a high markup because the local market can support such a price


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Something in a similar configuration as this with approximately 25 linear feet from Porro would cost 250k+ here in Vancouver. It's a fantastic system designed by Piero Lissoni with stitched leather shelves and is quite popular along with the ones from Poliform and Giellesse. Not sure if the msrp is similar in the states or there's just a high markup because the local market can support such a price

Add a safe and a coffee station and that would be my sister's walk in closet.
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Stream, any updates on your car?
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Stream, any updates on your car?
No. I’ve both called & emailed asking for an update, but get no response. They initially said “4 to 6 weeks” and the case was opened May 17th, so they will probably take the whole six weeks, which means around 6/28. I’ll update as I hear anything more.
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One thing to keep in mind: MBUSA has a TON on its plate right now. Go over to the SUV X254 forum for the new GLC models. You cannot believe what is going on over there. MASSIVE problems with this brand new SUV. The GLC is one of MB's biggest sellers and folks in Atlanta must be tripping all over themselves to try and get this straightened out. They say that all that is needed is a software update, but then they are already issuing buy-backs on this SUV and the thing has only been out a few months. I'm sure my measly S580 is lost in the shuffle over there.

I've said this before, but I believe it bears repeating: MB needs to SLOW DOWN a bit. They are introducing WAY too many new models, with WAY too much new tech. It seems very clear that they are not testing these new models to the same extent they have done so in the past and are creating HUGE problems for themselves. The GLC is an "entry level" MB. Lots of folks "trade up" from Fords & Toyotas, thinking they want to experience Mercedes-Benz luxury and build quality. Some of these folks experiencing issues will NEVER come back to MB after these experiences and one can only imagine the stories they are telling their friends & neighbors. Many are probably praying to have their Toyota's back. This is not good.
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
One thing to keep in mind: MBUSA has a TON on its plate right now. Go over to the SUV X254 forum for the new GLC models. You cannot believe what is going on over there. MASSIVE problems with this brand new SUV. The GLC is one of MB's biggest sellers and folks in Atlanta must be tripping all over themselves to try and get this straightened out. They say that all that is needed is a software update, but then they are already issuing buy-backs on this SUV and the thing has only been out a few months. I'm sure my measly S580 is lost in the shuffle over there.

I've said this before, but I believe it bears repeating: MB needs to SLOW DOWN a bit. They are introducing WAY too many new models, with WAY too much new tech. It seems very clear that they are not testing these new models to the same extent they have done so in the past and are creating HUGE problems for themselves. The GLC is an "entry level" MB. Lots of folks "trade up" from Fords & Toyotas, thinking they want to experience Mercedes-Benz luxury and build quality. Some of these folks experiencing issues will NEVER come back to MB after these experiences and one can only imagine the stories they are telling their friends & neighbors. Many are probably praying to have their Toyota's back. This is not good.
Got me curious actually, I wonder why they are buying vehicles back when they knew a software update was available soon to fix the issues and make customers whole again.... unless those vehicles met the requirement for lemon law?
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
One thing to keep in mind: MBUSA has a TON on its plate right now. Go over to the SUV X254 forum for the new GLC models. You cannot believe what is going on over there. MASSIVE problems with this brand new SUV. The GLC is one of MB's biggest sellers and folks in Atlanta must be tripping all over themselves to try and get this straightened out. They say that all that is needed is a software update, but then they are already issuing buy-backs on this SUV and the thing has only been out a few months. I'm sure my measly S580 is lost in the shuffle over there.

I've said this before, but I believe it bears repeating: MB needs to SLOW DOWN a bit. They are introducing WAY too many new models, with WAY too much new tech. It seems very clear that they are not testing these new models to the same extent they have done so in the past and are creating HUGE problems for themselves. The GLC is an "entry level" MB. Lots of folks "trade up" from Fords & Toyotas, thinking they want to experience Mercedes-Benz luxury and build quality. Some of these folks experiencing issues will NEVER come back to MB after these experiences and one can only imagine the stories they are telling their friends & neighbors. Many are probably praying to have their Toyota's back. This is not good.
Stream what you say about pushing out too many cars too quickly is right on point. Back in the glory days with the W126 that had a 12 year production run, MB made a big deal about the level of R&D that went into that car to make it ‘The Best Car in the World’. It went through 10 years of R&D before it was all said and done. Unfortunately that is a time that is long gone at MB.
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Stream what you say about pushing out too many cars too quickly is right on point. Back in the glory days with the W126 that had a 12 year production run, MB made a big deal about the level of R&D that went into that car to make it ‘The Best Car in the World’. It went through 10 years of R&D before it was all said and done. Unfortunately that is a time that is long gone at MB.
The development of the W140 began as far back as 1983. Long before it was on the market. It turned out to be the most over-engineered vehicle in history for its time. I still think it is an amazing car. One critic said the only thing that MB said was wrong with the W140 was the height of the roofline. It is indeed too tall and should have been 6" lower. Other than that, it was a fantastic car (for its day). The next series was the WORST car they ever put out. The W220. My first brand new MB that I ever drove off the lot was a 1996 S420 and I was so proud of it. The next MB was a 2000 S500 and I got rid of it within 9 months as the suspension was a failure.
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The development of the W140 began as far back as 1983. Long before it was on the market. It turned out to be the most over-engineered vehicle in history for its time. I still think it is an amazing car. One critic said the only thing that MB said was wrong with the W140 was the height of the roofline. It is indeed too tall and should have been 6" lower. Other than that, it was a fantastic car (for its day). The next series was the WORST car they ever put out. The W220. My first brand new MB that I ever drove off the lot was a 1996 S420 and I was so proud of it. The next MB was a 2000 S500 and I got rid of it within 9 months as the suspension was a failure.
This was a pic that Streamliner posted of his W140 back in the day When he was living in MN before he moved to SoCal.
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While there are some product and ride height choices I don't like, that thing looks badass.

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This was a pic that Streamliner posted of his W140 back in the day When he was living in MN before he moved to SoCal.
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This was a pic that Streamliner posted of his W140 back in the day When he was living in MN before he moved to SoCal.
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One thing to keep in mind: MBUSA has a TON on its plate right now. Go over to the SUV X254 forum for the new GLC models. You cannot believe what is going on over there. MASSIVE problems with this brand new SUV. The GLC is one of MB's biggest sellers and folks in Atlanta must be tripping all over themselves to try and get this straightened out. They say that all that is needed is a software update, but then they are already issuing buy-backs on this SUV and the thing has only been out a few months. I'm sure my measly S580 is lost in the shuffle over there.

I've said this before, but I believe it bears repeating: MB needs to SLOW DOWN a bit. They are introducing WAY too many new models, with WAY too much new tech. It seems very clear that they are not testing these new models to the same extent they have done so in the past and are creating HUGE problems for themselves. The GLC is an "entry level" MB. Lots of folks "trade up" from Fords & Toyotas, thinking they want to experience Mercedes-Benz luxury and build quality. Some of these folks experiencing issues will NEVER come back to MB after these experiences and one can only imagine the stories they are telling their friends & neighbors. Many are probably praying to have their Toyota's back. This is not good.
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