I drove a new BMW I7 and…….
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If the EQE had the same as the EQS .20 then maybe just maybe ...
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Hatch actually increases low frequency boom noise. Mercedes explained how they had to add all sorts of counter measures in the EQS to reduce it. They were successful in my opinion.
As for me, I’ve owned numerous EVs and at some point became allergic to the high frequency drivetrain noise. Already have tinnitus, don’t need to hear it from the car too!
Whether you can hear it depends on how “young” your ears are as well as the specific car. BMW and Mercedes seem to be the best here by far, and improving on reducing those noises over time with new dampening materials and inverter technology. Till then, loving my V8!
As for me, I’ve owned numerous EVs and at some point became allergic to the high frequency drivetrain noise. Already have tinnitus, don’t need to hear it from the car too!
Whether you can hear it depends on how “young” your ears are as well as the specific car. BMW and Mercedes seem to be the best here by far, and improving on reducing those noises over time with new dampening materials and inverter technology. Till then, loving my V8!
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Thoughts on it being in the headlights then? The C217 S-Class coupe had it first then now BMW has it. That crystal at least BMW claims it is from Swarovski.
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Although I mean... the C217 S-Class headlight also used Swarovski
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They definitely do, and arguably the only real differentiator to the C-Class sedan, as the S-Class coupe as you know is just one DRL missing the two DRL (of a total of 3) an S-Class sedan has.
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Given that the S class coupe/cab was a low production car, it would honestly make sense if they offered it on the Maybach. It’s not a mass market car whatsoever and it would be a nice added detail to help differentiate it from a normal W223. Keep it as an option so if someone finds it too gaudy on their Maybach they can chose to go without it.
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Given that the S class coupe/cab was a low production car, it would honestly make sense if they offered it on the Maybach. It’s not a mass market car whatsoever and it would be a nice added detail to help differentiate it from a normal W223. Keep it as an option so if someone finds it too gaudy on their Maybach they can chose to go without it.
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I only meant as a comparator between the S and 7 it's a push because I don't like either.
They are not equal though; I had to think about whether I could survive 2 or 3 years with the fake piano plastic in this car: I detest the stuff. The crystal on the other hand simply isn't to my taste; I don't loathe it the way I do the black.
So I don't like either but the black put the sale in question, the crystal wouldn't have, but both fall into the cons.
They are not equal though; I had to think about whether I could survive 2 or 3 years with the fake piano plastic in this car: I detest the stuff. The crystal on the other hand simply isn't to my taste; I don't loathe it the way I do the black.
So I don't like either but the black put the sale in question, the crystal wouldn't have, but both fall into the cons.
06-14-2023, 05:15 PM
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There is generally more low frequency noise over bumps or rough roads in vehicles without a sealed off rear. That’s one thing I always notice in SUVs compared to sedans. It’s more felt than heard.
They make mention of this towards the bottom: https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2...c-engineering/
They make mention of this towards the bottom: https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2...c-engineering/
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Totally agree, and I think sales are proving that out. The lease deals on EQ models are INSANE. Like, $500 a month insane.
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I only meant as a comparator between the S and 7 it's a push because I don't like either.
They are not equal though; I had to think about whether I could survive 2 or 3 years with the fake piano plastic in this car: I detest the stuff. The crystal on the other hand simply isn't to my taste; I don't loathe it the way I do the black.
So I don't like either but the black put the sale in question, the crystal wouldn't have, but both fall into the cons.
They are not equal though; I had to think about whether I could survive 2 or 3 years with the fake piano plastic in this car: I detest the stuff. The crystal on the other hand simply isn't to my taste; I don't loathe it the way I do the black.
So I don't like either but the black put the sale in question, the crystal wouldn't have, but both fall into the cons.
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I can't quite follow the crystal plastic in the 7 either, especially when they offer actual crystal components that look and feel great in other models (shift knob, dial). Could have to do with accident safety but I like how MB hides the LED strips better so you get the lightshow without the plastic look.
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I ended up going with one of those lease deals. Never imagined I would, but glad I did. Just got back from a trip to Palm Springs from San Diego (2.5 hours) over the mountain. It may not be a looker but wow, the drive was every bit Mercedes-Benz and (to me) the ultimate luxury is never having to go to a gas station. The outside is what it is, but the inside is superb. In the end, value is subjective.
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I only meant as a comparator between the S and 7 it's a push because I don't like either.
They are not equal though; I had to think about whether I could survive 2 or 3 years with the fake piano plastic in this car: I detest the stuff. The crystal on the other hand simply isn't to my taste; I don't loathe it the way I do the black.
So I don't like either but the black put the sale in question, the crystal wouldn't have, but both fall into the cons.
They are not equal though; I had to think about whether I could survive 2 or 3 years with the fake piano plastic in this car: I detest the stuff. The crystal on the other hand simply isn't to my taste; I don't loathe it the way I do the black.
So I don't like either but the black put the sale in question, the crystal wouldn't have, but both fall into the cons.
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There is generally more low frequency noise over bumps or rough roads in vehicles without a sealed off rear. That’s one thing I always notice in SUVs compared to sedans. It’s more felt than heard.
They make mention of this towards the bottom: https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2...c-engineering/
They make mention of this towards the bottom: https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2...c-engineering/
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I ended up going with one of those lease deals. Never imagined I would, but glad I did. Just got back from a trip to Palm Springs from San Diego (2.5 hours) over the mountain. It may not be a looker but wow, the drive was every bit Mercedes-Benz and (to me) the ultimate luxury is never having to go to a gas station. The outside is what it is, but the inside is superb. In the end, value is subjective.
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There is generally more low frequency noise over bumps or rough roads in vehicles without a sealed off rear. That’s one thing I always notice in SUVs compared to sedans. It’s more felt than heard.
They make mention of this towards the bottom: https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2...c-engineering/
They make mention of this towards the bottom: https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2...c-engineering/
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I can't quite follow the crystal plastic in the 7 either, especially when they offer actual crystal components that look and feel great in other models (shift knob, dial). Could have to do with accident safety but I like how MB hides the LED strips better so you get the lightshow without the plastic look.
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06-15-2023, 10:15 AM
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To me it's obvious that the current 7 series, S-Class are built for a newer generation of buyers. I think the crystal elements in the 7 suit the car, as well as the exaggerated lighting. Thankfully, the Flying Spur (as has been recommended before) offers the legacy luxury you seem to appreciate, lofty suspension and all.
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