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Old Mar 6, 2024 | 05:57 PM
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We took a 24 i7 M70 in trade. Not a pretty car. It's a shame because BMW has built some very good looking 7 Series over the years. I guess the Ultimate Driving Machine is dead if Streamliner wants one!
For me, for an I7 to look even remotely attractive, it MUST have the "Luxury" trim and not the "M-Sport."






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Originally Posted by Streamliner
For me, for an I7 to look even remotely attractive, it MUST have the "Luxury" trim and not the "M-Sport."


Is that what you're buying Stream?
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We took a 24 i7 M70 in trade. Not a pretty car. It's a shame because BMW has built some very good looking 7 Series over the years. I guess the Ultimate Driving Machine is dead if Streamliner wants one!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I have come tor really like how they look
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
For me, for an I7 to look even remotely attractive, it MUST have the "Luxury" trim and not the "M-Sport."
It's quite interesting how people can see things differently. To me, the only "acceptable" design is the M-Sport and only in dark colors, wherein light colors and "luxury" trim looks the ugliest (it emphasize the weird front design). None of them look good honestly, but at least the dark with M-sport look somewhat more acceptable.
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I am starting to like the M Sport, there is a carbon black i7 M Sport that is running around here and its really sharp...

If I were to get an M Sport I would get a 760 or 750e though.







I would have to have it fully PPF'ed though so I could use a carwash

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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 12:16 PM
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The G70 7-Series is really nice and I am starting to come around to like the design. She's a bit odd-looking and disproportional in pictures but it has mega presence in person. I like seeing them in traffic because the car towers over others like a Rolls-Royce.
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I would have to have it fully PPF'ed though so I could use a carwash
Definitely. My dark blue sedan is fully PPF'd but I've been really hesitant about taking it ever to a car wash. The PPF guys, and even EASTMAN people (manufacturer or Llumar and Xpel PPF) have told me that car wash may cause damage to the seams and edges. Touchless car wash are kinda useless on the other hand. I was hopping to find anyone with a fully PPFd car and months-year of carwashes to see if it really has any bad implications on the film edges or not. I don't have many exposed edges but am still tempted. I might take it once by the end of winter.

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Originally Posted by JB-HTX
The G70 7-Series is really nice and I am starting to come around to like the design. She's a bit odd-looking and disproportional in pictures but it has mega presence in person. I like seeing them in traffic because the car towers over others like a Rolls-Royce.
It is much much better looking in person and does stand out.

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Definitely. My dark blue sedan is fully PPF'd but I've been really hesitant about taking it ever to a car wash. The PPF guys, and even EASTMAN people (manufacturer or Llumar and Xpel PPF) have told me that car wash may cause damage to the seams and edges. Touchless car wash are kinda useless on the other hand. I was hopping to find anyone with a fully PPFd car and months-year of carwashes to see if it really has any bad implications on the film edges or not. I don't have many exposed edges but am still tempted. I might take it once by the end of winter.
I haven't had that issue, I have a full front clip on all my cars. For me I just don't have the time or energy to wash them myself, and don't want to sit around for a hand wash for an hour...

I can tell you that there are no scratches at all on the PPF on the front clip after 3 years of weekly carwashes.
Old Mar 8, 2024 | 02:40 PM
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I am starting to like the M Sport, there is a carbon black i7 M Sport that is running around here and its really sharp...

If I were to get an M Sport I would get a 760 or 750e though.







I would have to have it fully PPF'ed though so I could use a carwash
That looks very nice. It has just the right amount of brightwork on the front, rear (which looks great) and wheels.
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Originally Posted by S_W222
Definitely. My dark blue sedan is fully PPF'd but I've been really hesitant about taking it ever to a car wash. The PPF guys, and even EASTMAN people (manufacturer or Llumar and Xpel PPF) have told me that car wash may cause damage to the seams and edges. Touchless car wash are kinda useless on the other hand. I was hopping to find anyone with a fully PPFd car and months-year of carwashes to see if it really has any bad implications on the film edges or not. I don't have many exposed edges but am still tempted. I might take it once by the end of winter.
I don't have full PPF but all of my cars have the front end done, I've always use the touchless car wash and nothing happened so far....
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Is that what you're buying Stream?
Everything is on hold for the moment. Looking for an Autobahn Package equipped I7 to test drive.
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Hi Streamliner, (S-Class)

I feel the same as you but had a few questions if you are able to speak or answer below would be much appreciated.

1) I have loved MBZ since the early 80s.
2) The last one I had was a 2018 S560 - custom ordered etc. loved the look and quality after prior year models post 1999 felt lacking. That said, the engine broke - literally replaced with a new one from Germany after 8,000 miles.
3) Gave car back post lease expiry - Sept 2021.
4) like 2024 s class looks. Miss driving behind 3 pointed star.
5) Read bad reviews though and have held off - would you say this makes sense to avoid the w223 despite my nostalgia and attraction to the body, brand etc?

thanks very much in advance
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
After 17 brand new MB’s, including my last 8 new cars, it would appear that my next new ride will be a BMW, an I7 eDrive50 to be exact. I placed an order today and they are telling me 3 to 4 months. I am not thrilled with the exterior looks of this car or some of the interior trim items and would have much preferred to stay with MB but quite frankly, I believe that I did not leave MB, MB left me. With the unhappy experience I had with MB unwilling to fix the harsh shifting transmission in my 2020 S560 and then my absolute meltdown experience with my 2022 S580–both of which were repurchased by MBUSA—yes, that’s two in a row!—I felt that I needed a change. Swearing that my next new car would have amazing ride quality and comfort over all else, led me to my ugly duckling decision. The car drives like a dream.

The BMW dealer is about three blocks from my office and should I need to bug them about anything, it should be relatively simple. The fact that I usually drive between about 10 to 16 miles a day and can charge the car both at my home and office, coupled with living in idiotic California, where gas prices are currently around $5.20 a gallon, makes the idea of an electric car that much more appealing. We will still have two MB ICE cars in the household, should the need arise.

So, barring me finding my dream S560 (still searching for it!) while I wait for my new car to be delivered, I look forward to going BMW—and electric—this summer. Stay tuned!
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I feel the same as you but had a few questions if you are able to speak or answer below would be much appreciated.

1) I have loved MBZ since the early 80s.
2) The last one I had was a 2018 S560 - custom ordered etc. loved the look and quality after prior year models post 1999 felt lacking. That said, the engine broke - literally replaced with a new one from Germany after 8,000 miles.
3) Gave car back post lease expiry - Sept 2021.
4) like 2024 s class looks. Miss driving behind 3 pointed star.
5) Read bad reviews though and have held off - would you say this makes sense to avoid the w223 despite my nostalgia and attraction to the body, brand etc?

thanks very much in advance
anish
I recommend just taking a 2023 model for extended test drive. This way you get to compare the W223 with the one you had.

The OP bought the car sight unseen and found that he hated the optional E-ABC suspension.
Then having the 48v system shutdown did the rest amongst other dislikes.
Old Mar 14, 2024 | 10:35 AM
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Just noticed that in another thread, a fellow bought a new 2024 S580. He posted the build and the price for the AMG Line option was $4,300.00. BMW, with the I7, allows their customers the choice of either the Luxury or M-Sport packages, at NO CHARGE. In addition, one can choose 19” or 20” wheels at no charge. If you choose the AMG Line with the S580 and want 20” wheels, you’ll cough up another $850.00.

I’ve always thought the AMG Line or AMG Sport Packages were the ultimate ripoff. I would bet that the AMG body panels, wheels, etc. cost MB no more to produce than the standard ones, yet so many opt for the costly options. Oh well, P.T. Barnum was right.
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
Just noticed that in another thread, a fellow bought a new 2024 S580. He posted the build and the price for the AMG Line option was $4,300.00. BMW, with the I7, allows their customers the choice of either the Luxury or M-Sport packages, at NO CHARGE. In addition, one can choose 19” or 20” wheels at no charge. If you choose the AMG Line with the S580 and want 20” wheels, you’ll cough up another $850.00.

I’ve always thought the AMG Line or AMG Sport Packages were the ultimate ripoff. I would bet that the AMG body panels, wheels, etc. cost MB no more to produce than the standard ones, yet so many opt for the costly options. Oh well, P.T. Barnum was right.
$850 for the wheels I want on a $140,000 car isn't a big deal to me lol.

"PT Barnum" implies people who opt for the AMG appearance package (like me) are foolish, again...its a $130,000+ car. If I was worried about paying for the bumpers I want, I wouldn't be buying a $130,000 car.
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Went to the local car show last night and because of the interest in the I7 on this board I wandered over to look at the new 7 series. The one they had was in the sport trim and I told my wife about my comment above and she responded that it looked better than an lot of the other cars there. My summary of the car show was screens, screens and more screens. As much as I don't like them in the W223 they looked better there than most. Only car I liked at all was the Audi E-tron Q8.
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
Just noticed that in another thread, a fellow bought a new 2024 S580. He posted the build and the price for the AMG Line option was $4,300.00. BMW, with the I7, allows their customers the choice of either the Luxury or M-Sport packages, at NO CHARGE. In addition, one can choose 19” or 20” wheels at no charge. If you choose the AMG Line with the S580 and want 20” wheels, you’ll cough up another $850.00.

I’ve always thought the AMG Line or AMG Sport Packages were the ultimate ripoff. I would bet that the AMG body panels, wheels, etc. cost MB no more to produce than the standard ones, yet so many opt for the costly options. Oh well, P.T. Barnum was right.
That's news to me. The BMW configurator shows $3900 for the 50 model. Also 19" wheels are not an option anymore when that package is selected. The 60 is defaulted to the M-Sport with 20" wheels and priced that way. So I guess they let you downgrade both for free.
Not quite the same thing though
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
Just noticed that in another thread, a fellow bought a new 2024 S580. He posted the build and the price for the AMG Line option was $4,300.00. BMW, with the I7, allows their customers the choice of either the Luxury or M-Sport packages, at NO CHARGE. In addition, one can choose 19” or 20” wheels at no charge. If you choose the AMG Line with the S580 and want 20” wheels, you’ll cough up another $850.00.

I’ve always thought the AMG Line or AMG Sport Packages were the ultimate ripoff. I would bet that the AMG body panels, wheels, etc. cost MB no more to produce than the standard ones, yet so many opt for the costly options. Oh well, P.T. Barnum was right.
Oh come off it now!

"No charge" just means built into the price lol.
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Just saw this thread, congrats OP in the order of your new ride, hate to lose you to the "dark side" but perhaps there might still be undiscovered "light" on the "dark side"?

I am just glad after all that you finally able to try something else and I understand you like the idea of a new vehicle which MB couldn't deliver based on your needs... yet. Not all hope is lost if MB is focusing on slowing down electrification (I guess?) Either way, hopefully the new 7er will treat you well. Best of luck!


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