The new 2027 S-Class: The Walkaround
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Well, in that case I’d rather just buy an E-class. With SWB, they are essentially “almost” the same car nowadays. The S no longer offers many unique parts or components compared to the S; there are some unique elements but not that many compared to previous generations. E have many of the same parts/components, and sometimes even better cabin quality when comparing some model years. What makes the S special is the longer wheelbase and heavier weight driving like a nice boat. SWB S to me is just an E today. It was very different in the past, but not anymore. I may actually prefer the E for some model years in that case.
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That said, for those who want S-Class amenities in a smaller size (SWB), it might make sense, granted the RWS in the S-Class LWB might had helped a lot anyways assuming the maneuverability was the only concern.
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Well, in that case I’d rather just buy an E-class. With SWB, they are essentially “almost” the same car nowadays. The S no longer offers many unique parts or components compared to the S; there are some unique elements but not that many compared to previous generations. E have many of the same parts/components, and sometimes even better cabin quality when comparing some model years. What makes the S special is the longer wheelbase and heavier weight driving like a nice boat. SWB S to me is just an E today. It was very different in the past, but not anymore. I may actually prefer the E for some model years in that case.
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If this new W223 was offered as an EV, I would probably get one. Overall, it seems like a magnificent car. That said, watching the Autotrader video, I could not help but burst out laughing when the fellow had multiple occasions when the door handles would not pop out. The more things change……….
IF it were available as a full EV, I would try to ignore what I consider to be the insanely gauche and horribly excessive placement of the 3-pointed star logos all over the exterior lighting and grille. We can only hope that some enterprising soul out there somewhere is already tooling up—or possibly contracting with the OEM supplier—to produce absolutely perfect aftermarket grilles & tail lights, similar to those on previous, traditionally designed MB models. Probably way too difficult to even think about fixing the headlights.
The whole car exudes class & sophistication, until you see all the stars, which really diminish the effect. How difficult would it have been for MB to offer a “Logo Package” as an OPTION, so those who want it (read China) could have it, while others, (read anyone with any sense of good taste) who value understated elegance, could have their MB in the traditional, lightly monogrammed version? The colossal logo overload REALLY is in poor taste. All of this, of course, is my personal opinion.
IF it were available as a full EV, I would try to ignore what I consider to be the insanely gauche and horribly excessive placement of the 3-pointed star logos all over the exterior lighting and grille. We can only hope that some enterprising soul out there somewhere is already tooling up—or possibly contracting with the OEM supplier—to produce absolutely perfect aftermarket grilles & tail lights, similar to those on previous, traditionally designed MB models. Probably way too difficult to even think about fixing the headlights.
The whole car exudes class & sophistication, until you see all the stars, which really diminish the effect. How difficult would it have been for MB to offer a “Logo Package” as an OPTION, so those who want it (read China) could have it, while others, (read anyone with any sense of good taste) who value understated elegance, could have their MB in the traditional, lightly monogrammed version? The colossal logo overload REALLY is in poor taste. All of this, of course, is my personal opinion.
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The E-class is 194 inches in length, the SWB S-class is 204, whereas as the LWB is 209. The ten inch difference for the E-class from the SWB would be much more noticeable than the 5 inches between the S-class models. As someone who rarely has anyone in the backseat, the river barge feel of the LWB in order to coddle the non-existent rear passengers, is something I would prefer do without. The car IS available. Just not imported here.
The reason to get a SWB S Class over the E Class would be all about cabin sophistication and quality
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The E-class is 194 inches in length, the SWB S-class is 204, whereas as the LWB is 209. The ten inch difference for the E-class from the SWB would be much more noticeable than the 5 inches between the S-class models. As someone who rarely has anyone in the backseat, the river barge feel of the LWB in order to coddle the non-existent rear passengers, is something I would prefer do without. The car IS available. Just not imported here.
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@9:00 the door handles are still buggy
https://youtu.be/buU0vlBvmMs?si=piBdZ59WXalj_F-P
https://youtu.be/buU0vlBvmMs?si=piBdZ59WXalj_F-P
Now I can imagine @Streamliner’s story in that parking lot.
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Now I can imagine @Streamliner’s story in that parking lot.
Now I can imagine @Streamliner’s story in that parking lot.
the Germans are extremely stubborn and extremely reluctant to admit to a mistake.
The pop-out exterior door handles were a disaster when first introduced on the W223 in 2021. The fact that they STILL are not perfected and are STILL causing owners headaches is just NUTS! WHY can’t MB just quietly do away with these things that were an answer to a question that NOBODY asked? They copied Tesla. It failed. GIVE UP THE FRIGGING SHIP and go back to the PERFECT door handles used on the W222 and virtually every other MB, when there was NEVER a complaint about them. Nope, they just can’t do it, so everyone suffers.
Can we even imagine the number of man hours that dealers & customers have wasted fooling with these idiotic, overly complicated, UNNEEDED AND UNWANTED contraptions? Can we even imagine what will become of these things when vehicles are out of warranty? They had “PERFECT,” but just had to fix it.
I would like to consider the updated EQS when the lease is up on my BMW I7, but when I think of dealing with THOSE door handles again, I just can’t do it.
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@9:00 the door handles are still buggy
https://youtu.be/buU0vlBvmMs?si=piBdZ59WXalj_F-P
https://youtu.be/buU0vlBvmMs?si=piBdZ59WXalj_F-P
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