Fake S55?...

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Apr 6, 2008 | 08:45 AM
  #1  
A guy where I work has a dark blue S-Class with an S55 bagde on the back and Komressor badges on the front wings.

I'm not sure if it's a fake.

It has similar wheels to my W210 E55 (traditional AMG style) and twin (single) exhausts. It also has wood trim inside.

What should I look for to convince me it's real? My E55 has the AMG logo on the speedo for example.

It's a UK model.

DC
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Apr 6, 2008 | 08:19 PM
  #2  
Sounds fake. Supercharged S55s have quad exhausts.
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Apr 7, 2008 | 01:59 PM
  #3  
Quote: Sounds fake. Supercharged S55s have quad exhausts.
Not necessarily. W210 E55's had a single, twin exhaust. W211's have quad. I would look at the seats and instruments. If they don't have AMG marks, then it's a fake. Also, just listen to the engine. There is no way to make a stock engine sound like a supercharged engine.
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Apr 7, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Quote: Not necessarily. W210 E55's had a single, twin exhaust. W211's have quad.
What does any of that have to do with my statement that supercharged S55s have quad exhausts?
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Apr 7, 2008 | 03:19 PM
  #5  
Quote: Not necessarily. W210 E55's had a single, twin exhaust. W211's have quad. I would look at the seats and instruments. If they don't have AMG marks, then it's a fake. Also, just listen to the engine. There is no way to make a stock engine sound like a supercharged engine.
If you get a chance, ask to see the engine. You should be able to tell if it says AMG on it ... or not!



~shahedc
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Apr 7, 2008 | 05:33 PM
  #6  
and the brakes should have AMG log on them.
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Apr 7, 2008 | 06:20 PM
  #7  
Here is a fake S
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Apr 8, 2008 | 08:43 PM
  #8  
Quote: Not necessarily. W210 E55's had a single, twin exhaust. W211's have quad. I would look at the seats and instruments. If they don't have AMG marks, then it's a fake. Also, just listen to the engine. There is no way to make a stock engine sound like a supercharged engine.
Eh... W210 E55's are not SCed.
AND not all W211's have quads...
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Apr 8, 2008 | 10:24 PM
  #9  
I saw a really fake one today... last-gen S-class... with S500 badge on the RIGHT... and a V12 badge on the LEFT.


tsk tsk..

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Apr 8, 2008 | 10:52 PM
  #10  
01-02 s55's had twin single exhausts...if it says nothing on the side it would be an 01-02 s55...but since it says "kompressor", he might have just added the emblem to an older model s55...
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Apr 9, 2008 | 03:15 AM
  #11  
Thanks for all your info.

I wont get a chance to have a look at the engine so I'll try and get a closer look of the interior etc. It's a W220 model, so where should it have an AMG logo inside? I havent heard it drive either.

Also, what wheels did a UK S55 come with? This particular car has AMG monoblocks with polished rims and not the split spoke wheels I have seen on others.

My betting is that it's an S320 badged up!

Another AMG wannabe me thinks.
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Apr 12, 2008 | 02:05 AM
  #12  
Quote: Here is a fake S
Why is that fake?
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Apr 12, 2008 | 03:05 AM
  #13  
Quote: Why is that fake?
amg badge?
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Apr 12, 2008 | 03:11 AM
  #14  
Quote: Why is that fake?
I believe cause the emblem seems to show S550 on the left and AMG on the right....If I am correct all AMGs has 1-3 letters with 2 numbers right?
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Apr 12, 2008 | 12:02 PM
  #15  
Quote: I believe cause the emblem seems to show S550 on the left and AMG on the right....If I am correct all AMGs has 1-3 letters with 2 numbers right?
Yup. AMG only has the model designation and the motor displacement as the number for the model.
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Apr 12, 2008 | 12:27 PM
  #16  
Quote: I believe cause the emblem seems to show S550 on the left and AMG on the right....If I am correct all AMGs has 1-3 letters with 2 numbers right?
Yes
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Apr 12, 2008 | 10:14 PM
  #17  
Dealers sure sell a lot of those S550's w AMG packages........
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Apr 13, 2008 | 01:47 AM
  #18  
Quote: Yup. AMG only has the model designation and the motor displacement as the number for the model.
So are people doing that to 'show off', and act like their car is 'better' than it really is? Also, random question, but is it possible to get part of the AMG package w/o getting the entire thing (no, not the badge) i.e. the wheels?
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Apr 13, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Quote: So are people doing that to 'show off', and act like their car is 'better' than it really is? Also, random question, but is it possible to get part of the AMG package w/o getting the entire thing (no, not the badge) i.e. the wheels?
Yeah, they're just trying to compensate for lack of a certain part of the human anatomy...

The second question is a good one. Yes and no. The older models like the W220, W211, W163, W215, C219, R230, etc. had Sport Packages that looked, for the most part, almost exactly like the AMG counterpart. Usually the only things that would give it away as a normal version were the brakes, exhaust tips (or lack thereof), and obviously the engine.

Now though, MB has done a pretty good job making Sport Packages without completely copying the AMG version. Take a look at W221, facelifted W211, W204, W216 models and their AMG versions. They still look sporty and look very nice, but they do it without looking exactly like the AMG models now.
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Apr 14, 2008 | 12:44 AM
  #20  
Quote: Yeah, they're just trying to compensate for lack of a certain part of the human anatomy...

The second question is a good one. Yes and no. The older models like the W220, W211, W163, W215, C219, R230, etc. had Sport Packages that looked, for the most part, almost exactly like the AMG counterpart. Usually the only things that would give it away as a normal version were the brakes, exhaust tips (or lack thereof), and obviously the engine.

Now though, MB has done a pretty good job making Sport Packages without completely copying the AMG version. Take a look at W221, facelifted W211, W204, W216 models and their AMG versions. They still look sporty and look very nice, but they do it without looking exactly like the AMG models now.
I'm very new to all of this, and dont really know much about cars in general, so a lot of what you said went over my head. I'm just curious, because I have no use for the AMG engine, dont care about badges at all, but I absolutely love the AMG rims. I guess it would be possible to get something similar, though.
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Apr 14, 2008 | 04:44 PM
  #21  
Quote: I'm very new to all of this, and dont really know much about cars in general, so a lot of what you said went over my head. I'm just curious, because I have no use for the AMG engine, dont care about badges at all, but I absolutely love the AMG rims. I guess it would be possible to get something similar, though.
Yeah, you can get a regular model that looks similar and sporty like an AMG. If you want picture references...

For the previous designs, like I said, they were almost exactly the same. Differences usually are the exhaust tips being exposed on the AMG, and the larger brakes on the AMG. Like here:
W220 S55 AMG
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-...QQcmdZViewItem
W220 S500 w/ Sport Package
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-...QQcmdZViewItem
They look almost exactly the same.

For a lot of the new designs, you won't be able to buy the sport package and get the exact same design as the AMG (depends on the model though, although they're mostly different now).
W221 S65 AMG
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/07-S6...QQcmdZViewItem
W221 S550 w/ AMG Sport Package
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-ME...QQcmdZViewItem
So for the newer models, they'll look sportier, but not the same as AMG anymore.
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