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track run....
ran the car twice.....
78 degrees humid as usual in South Florida
122 mph 1.9 60' second run with ESP off
stock PS2's with 60% left in them ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSmaHYNgWiU
78 degrees humid as usual in South Florida
122 mph 1.9 60' second run with ESP off
stock PS2's with 60% left in them ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSmaHYNgWiU
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Nice MPH. A couple of S65 `s have run 11.5 with same MPH .. They used drag radials though..
Did you try and run with about 26PSI in the rear tires?
Did you try and run with about 26PSI in the rear tires?
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no tires were 38 psi
I will try that next......I am very surprised how well these cars run...always have been.....and for less then the cost of a ISF or a year old SRT8 challenger you cant beat it ......no comparison....
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That's some killer mph on street tires. My stock 65 trapped consistent 121's-122's in good air on DR's and saw a best of 123.
0-60?? I've never understood why the MB folks place such a huge emphasis on "0-60" times.....the first time I was asked that question about my 65 I chuckled...... I felt like my grandfather was asking me the question. I’m from the Vette world....and not once in 6yrs was I ever asked how fast my Pro-Charged Vette would go from 0-60, LOL. We were all about ET's and MPH. I’m not insulting anyone here, I just find it interesting- that’s all. To each their own.
0-60?? I've never understood why the MB folks place such a huge emphasis on "0-60" times.....the first time I was asked that question about my 65 I chuckled...... I felt like my grandfather was asking me the question. I’m from the Vette world....and not once in 6yrs was I ever asked how fast my Pro-Charged Vette would go from 0-60, LOL. We were all about ET's and MPH. I’m not insulting anyone here, I just find it interesting- that’s all. To each their own.
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That's some killer mph on street tires. My stock 65 trapped consistent 121's-122's in good air on DR's and saw a best of 123.
0-60?? I've never understood why the MB folks place such a huge emphasis on "0-60" times.....the first time I was asked that question about my 65 I chuckled...... I felt like my grandfather was asking me the question. I’m from the Vette world....and not once in 6yrs was I ever asked how fast my Pro-Charged Vette would go from 0-60, LOL. We were all about ET's and MPH. I’m not insulting anyone here, I just find it interesting- that’s all. To each their own.
0-60?? I've never understood why the MB folks place such a huge emphasis on "0-60" times.....the first time I was asked that question about my 65 I chuckled...... I felt like my grandfather was asking me the question. I’m from the Vette world....and not once in 6yrs was I ever asked how fast my Pro-Charged Vette would go from 0-60, LOL. We were all about ET's and MPH. I’m not insulting anyone here, I just find it interesting- that’s all. To each their own.
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0-60 times are the standard of the world for measuring acceleration of a car. Quarter miles times are only used in the USA. And there is more to the world than USA. This is why you see 0-60 MPH times mentioned in MB and other high performance car's manuals and nobody cares about 1/4 mile runs. Quarter mile runs are a measure of time to distance while 0-60 runs are a measure of time to speed. Both are valid but majority do not care about 1/4 mile runs.
By the way, your Grandfather is a wise man.
By the way, your Grandfather is a wise man.
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0-60 times are the standard of the world for measuring acceleration of a car. Quarter miles times are only used in the USA. And there is more to the world than USA. This is why you see 0-60 MPH times mentioned in MB and other high performance car's manuals and nobody cares about 1/4 mile runs. Quarter mile runs are a measure of time to distance while 0-60 runs are a measure of time to speed. Both are valid but majority do not care about 1/4 mile runs.
By the way, your Grandfather is a wise man.
By the way, your Grandfather is a wise man.
A true measure of a cars performance would be 60-130. 0-60 means nothing if your car weights 1000 pounds and has XX HP and not Torque. you will have 0-60 in 2 sec and then it will take you an additional half and hour to hit 100 mph. Also who races from 0-60. Just like those stock pesky 335i 0-60 in 4.x sec and then they lose all their steam by 100.
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I agree and disagree---interesting
0-60 based on 1/8 mph and ET in 1/8....it ran 91 mph in the 1/8 @ 7.8 sec......so 3.2-3.1 0-60 is correct
I do agree 0-60 had always been a general rule to the MAGS and has become oh so too common....but on the other hand usually on a street race which I only like to race from a start 0-60 is roughly the win or lose to the next light....that is where the whole 0-60 following came from....or lets say 0 to avg. highway mph.......
1/4 mile MPH is king ...if you are running 120 plus you are faster then 95% of the cars you will ever see on the street to race...
My car does on the other hand have excellent highway Power....it will run 70-120 mph in a flash....so fast it pulled a Z06 and Blown GTO at the same time on the highway while they were trying to race each other!! I got in the center lane when they were slowing down to about 60 to race....They were a bit surprised to see a white Kat laying low in his seat in his 4 door Benz pull hard enough they could not catch up....but the Z06 was quicker then the GTO though....just not fast enough to catch me to the next exit.......lol
our cars have 2.67 rear gears.....and by calculations on a 122 mph in a 5100 lb car with me in it ofcourse all the HP calcs put our cars at 656 RWHP....check it out.....I compared it to my brothers stang that runs 9.96@142 ....his car shows on the calcs that is has 843 RWHP...that is exactly what he layed on the dyno many times..
my brothers 0-60 times are useless on the street ...he hits it in less then 2 sec....
I do agree 0-60 had always been a general rule to the MAGS and has become oh so too common....but on the other hand usually on a street race which I only like to race from a start 0-60 is roughly the win or lose to the next light....that is where the whole 0-60 following came from....or lets say 0 to avg. highway mph.......
1/4 mile MPH is king ...if you are running 120 plus you are faster then 95% of the cars you will ever see on the street to race...
My car does on the other hand have excellent highway Power....it will run 70-120 mph in a flash....so fast it pulled a Z06 and Blown GTO at the same time on the highway while they were trying to race each other!! I got in the center lane when they were slowing down to about 60 to race....They were a bit surprised to see a white Kat laying low in his seat in his 4 door Benz pull hard enough they could not catch up....but the Z06 was quicker then the GTO though....just not fast enough to catch me to the next exit.......lol
our cars have 2.67 rear gears.....and by calculations on a 122 mph in a 5100 lb car with me in it ofcourse all the HP calcs put our cars at 656 RWHP....check it out.....I compared it to my brothers stang that runs 9.96@142 ....his car shows on the calcs that is has 843 RWHP...that is exactly what he layed on the dyno many times..
my brothers 0-60 times are useless on the street ...he hits it in less then 2 sec....
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0-60 Times are for the car noobs, just like macs are for the PC retards.
A true measure of a cars performance would be 60-130. 0-60 means nothing if your car weights 1000 pounds and has XX HP and not Torque. you will have 0-60 in 2 sec and then it will take you an additional half and hour to hit 100 mph. Also who races from 0-60. Just like those stock pesky 335i 0-60 in 4.x sec and then they lose all their steam by 100.
A true measure of a cars performance would be 60-130. 0-60 means nothing if your car weights 1000 pounds and has XX HP and not Torque. you will have 0-60 in 2 sec and then it will take you an additional half and hour to hit 100 mph. Also who races from 0-60. Just like those stock pesky 335i 0-60 in 4.x sec and then they lose all their steam by 100.
As far as your Mac comment, I disagree. My Mac is cut from a single piece of aluminum and has an incredible mouse / track pad. Truly the best, highest quality computer I have ever owned.
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A great sports car has to do several things at a high level. Going straight fast is one of them, but then there is stopping, turning, top speed, etc. So a true measure of a great sports cars is a lap or several laps around a race track (not oval). This is why a hot lap of Nurburgring is now becoming a "claim to fame" for many high performance cars, Nissan GT-R, SLS, 911 Turbo, etc.
Look at the American muscle cars of the 60's, they did great in a quarter mile, but lousy in stopping or turning right or left, not a well-balanced car by any means. In fact in one program on SPEED TV, they raced a Roadrunner against a modern Honda Minivan full of people around a rally course and Minivan won easily.
Another good test is a 0-100-0, which measures acceleration and stopping prowess.
How you measure your car's performance is up to you, just don't measure it based on how many coats of wax you got on it. (a little dry humor here)
Anyway, thanks to "retardedmonk" for sharing his track experience, always great to see these cars run this fast.
Look at the American muscle cars of the 60's, they did great in a quarter mile, but lousy in stopping or turning right or left, not a well-balanced car by any means. In fact in one program on SPEED TV, they raced a Roadrunner against a modern Honda Minivan full of people around a rally course and Minivan won easily.
Another good test is a 0-100-0, which measures acceleration and stopping prowess.
How you measure your car's performance is up to you, just don't measure it based on how many coats of wax you got on it. (a little dry humor here)
Anyway, thanks to "retardedmonk" for sharing his track experience, always great to see these cars run this fast.
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SuperCars of modern day are overbuilt for practical use
with better traction the s65 will hit 60 in under 3 sec.
Yes as an overall performance car rated with braking, acceleration and handling as well as top speed...this is the modern day supercar.....GTR,Z06,SL65 BLACK,R8,
But on the other hand ....the handling will hardly be useful unless you like to play slalom with cars on the street and the brakes..well all AMG's are well equipped....acceleration and is the most likely daily tool we all use....
in other words a majority of these SUPERcars being built are built for 90% more then we will ever use on the street and in everyday driving....
It is the thrill of owning one and the prestige of the game...I have owned many of them.....
but in the end a nice 65 is all I really feel at home in....and a 65 is a package that is hard to beat.....power and comfort and they still brake and handle well enough to have plenty of fun if needed
And the insane part of all this is that a nice 65 is more affordable then a well equipped Honda Mini VAN....lol......this is just nutz....
I enjoy the depreciation on the 65's......I wouldnt spend $100k plus on one unless it was to sell...but on the fact that they are less then $40k now.... mostly because the Lexus guy and Bmw guys have no clue to the super super rare numbers AMG's productions are ....and the fact that a little research will tell anybody that a 700 hp S65 is certainly much cooler then a GS430 or Bmw M5.....But this is not the case and it is better this way......I feel a hell of a lot more original owning these cars then a leased 5 series Bmw or Lexus that crowds all parking lots and roadways......there are 10x more M6's and M5's built yearly then all the 65 models together
Yes as an overall performance car rated with braking, acceleration and handling as well as top speed...this is the modern day supercar.....GTR,Z06,SL65 BLACK,R8,
But on the other hand ....the handling will hardly be useful unless you like to play slalom with cars on the street and the brakes..well all AMG's are well equipped....acceleration and is the most likely daily tool we all use....
in other words a majority of these SUPERcars being built are built for 90% more then we will ever use on the street and in everyday driving....
It is the thrill of owning one and the prestige of the game...I have owned many of them.....
but in the end a nice 65 is all I really feel at home in....and a 65 is a package that is hard to beat.....power and comfort and they still brake and handle well enough to have plenty of fun if needed
And the insane part of all this is that a nice 65 is more affordable then a well equipped Honda Mini VAN....lol......this is just nutz....
I enjoy the depreciation on the 65's......I wouldnt spend $100k plus on one unless it was to sell...but on the fact that they are less then $40k now.... mostly because the Lexus guy and Bmw guys have no clue to the super super rare numbers AMG's productions are ....and the fact that a little research will tell anybody that a 700 hp S65 is certainly much cooler then a GS430 or Bmw M5.....But this is not the case and it is better this way......I feel a hell of a lot more original owning these cars then a leased 5 series Bmw or Lexus that crowds all parking lots and roadways......there are 10x more M6's and M5's built yearly then all the 65 models together
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0-60 based on 1/8 mph and ET in 1/8....it ran 91 mph in the 1/8 @ 7.8 sec......so 3.2-3.1 0-60 is correct
I do agree 0-60 had always been a general rule to the MAGS and has become oh so too common....but on the other hand usually on a street race which I only like to race from a start 0-60 is roughly the win or lose to the next light....that is where the whole 0-60 following came from....or lets say 0 to avg. highway mph.......
1/4 mile MPH is king ...if you are running 120 plus you are faster then 95% of the cars you will ever see on the street to race...
My car does on the other hand have excellent highway Power....it will run 70-120 mph in a flash....so fast it pulled a Z06 and Blown GTO at the same time on the highway while they were trying to race each other!! I got in the center lane when they were slowing down to about 60 to race....They were a bit surprised to see a white Kat laying low in his seat in his 4 door Benz pull hard enough they could not catch up....but the Z06 was quicker then the GTO though....just not fast enough to catch me to the next exit.......lol
our cars have 2.67 rear gears.....and by calculations on a 122 mph in a 5100 lb car with me in it ofcourse all the HP calcs put our cars at 656 RWHP....check it out.....I compared it to my brothers stang that runs 9.96@142 ....his car shows on the calcs that is has 843 RWHP...that is exactly what he layed on the dyno many times..
my brothers 0-60 times are useless on the street ...he hits it in less then 2 sec....
I do agree 0-60 had always been a general rule to the MAGS and has become oh so too common....but on the other hand usually on a street race which I only like to race from a start 0-60 is roughly the win or lose to the next light....that is where the whole 0-60 following came from....or lets say 0 to avg. highway mph.......
1/4 mile MPH is king ...if you are running 120 plus you are faster then 95% of the cars you will ever see on the street to race...
My car does on the other hand have excellent highway Power....it will run 70-120 mph in a flash....so fast it pulled a Z06 and Blown GTO at the same time on the highway while they were trying to race each other!! I got in the center lane when they were slowing down to about 60 to race....They were a bit surprised to see a white Kat laying low in his seat in his 4 door Benz pull hard enough they could not catch up....but the Z06 was quicker then the GTO though....just not fast enough to catch me to the next exit.......lol
our cars have 2.67 rear gears.....and by calculations on a 122 mph in a 5100 lb car with me in it ofcourse all the HP calcs put our cars at 656 RWHP....check it out.....I compared it to my brothers stang that runs 9.96@142 ....his car shows on the calcs that is has 843 RWHP...that is exactly what he layed on the dyno many times..
my brothers 0-60 times are useless on the street ...he hits it in less then 2 sec....
BTW your car is running really strong! It seems like the S65s trap higher than the 200lbs lighter CL65. I have this theory that the S65's have the greatest ability of the 65 models to make the most hp at speed. This is based upon the much larger openings in the front for greater air flow..i.e. greater cooling capacity.
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I guy I met online built an awesome 0-60mph calculator in Excel using regression model. It was extremely accurate (usually under .1s deviation) when compared to actual vbox times recorded at the track. It requires 60', 330' and 1/8 mile ETs to spit out the 0-60mph times. If you could post up a timeslip or give me the ETs for each segment I would be more than happy to plug it in.
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I'm obviously the left lane
.....and before I get asked, yes, my car was stock on DR's. 
**Edit**- here's a little better 1/8 mile one.....
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I went back and double checked my car's best 1/4 mile run in which I also recorded on my vbox. The roll-out adjusted 0-60 time on the vbox and the Excel spreadsheet calculation was accurate to the hundreth of a second.
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Hey Tom Welcome back, Congratulations on your wedding again. Many good wishes.
Could you calculate the 0-60 for my old CL65? Here was the best run it ever had.
http://www.dragtimes.com/2005-Merced...ecs-17970.html
Could you calculate the 0-60 for my old CL65? Here was the best run it ever had.
http://www.dragtimes.com/2005-Merced...ecs-17970.html
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Hey Tom Welcome back, Congratulations on your wedding again. Many good wishes.
Could you calculate the 0-60 for my old CL65? Here was the best run it ever had.
http://www.dragtimes.com/2005-Merced...ecs-17970.html
Could you calculate the 0-60 for my old CL65? Here was the best run it ever had.
http://www.dragtimes.com/2005-Merced...ecs-17970.html
Not too shabby...2.75s...
Tom
