SL/R231: Why cant MB use some imagination?
Rapid Blue for me..................

The OP's post on this 231 forum was therefore useful to me only as a means to form an opinion about a C8 Corvette color choice!....

Like many, I fully admit to having a 'lust' for Corvettes as a teenager, and I actually did buy a 69 Vette in my early 20's. Twas 'a youthful itch that I needed to scratch', I suppose, but haven't had any desire for any later model Corvettes, or for any kind of 'all-out Exotic' which the new Mid-Engine C8 will now compete with. Just no interest whatsoever in 'Vettes' since the time of my youth, which was so many years ago...

One's personal taste in automobiles tends to evolve over time, and mine most certainly has! I now lean more toward refinement, sophistication, comfort, and build quality, while still desiring the sportiness and performance of a powerful 2-Seat Roadster!...
.I'm pleased to say that my 231 Mercedes-Benz SL 550 delivers all of that and more, and unlike the C8 Corvette, the 231 doesn't have any direct competition. There's really nothing quite like it from any other brand, regardless of price!. The 231 still exists in a league all it's own!..


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Last edited by bob55; Jul 25, 2019 at 10:56 AM.
That makes my 231 a safer car for me to drive. You're definitely not going to get those packages in the $60K entry price that I'm reading...maybe Chevrolet will offer them in the future at a competitive price. The C8 convertible did catch my eye in a good way though...




A great reference is our lambasted audio systems in the R231’s. They put them in the 2013, found them to be unacceptable by many owners, but left them virtually unchanged through the entire model run.. INSANE! Even with the golden opportunity of the 2017 face lift, all they did was reduce the number of speakers and drop the CD changer, while leaving the inherent problems unresolved. Where is my baseball bat?
Don’t even get me started on colors! They have had pretty much the same, old, worn out, drab, dreary, exterior colors across most of the entire line for years now. And, when they do make a change, they DROP two wonderful colors: Palladium Silver and Mars Red. The R231 has not sold well at all, and I truly believe that one of the big problems is their “50 shades of gray” palette.
Interior colors, in my opinion, are just as bad. Why EVERY interior choice—save one—has to be fully HALF BLACK, is just so disappointing to me. Why not an ALL saddle or an ALL red or an ALL gray interior with a touch of another complimentary, contrasting shade? In the 1980’s, GM started doing this to save money. A red interior had red seats and black everything else. A tan interior had tan seats and black everything else, etc. It is so much cheaper to produce a trim panel only in black, than in several different colors, and to me, that’s what MB ended up with: some cheap looking interiors! Sorry guys, I don’t mean to belittle your interior choice, but that’s how I feel. I would have just LOVED to order my SL450 with a red interior—as in the Porsche shown below—but they don’t offer one, only a red & BLACK. I could do without the red steering wheel, but with Porsche, that would be easy, as the choices are many.
But, don’t complain to the Germans at MB about ANYTHING, because they do not want to hear it. Like overbearing parents, THEY KNOW what we want and and what is best for us. We, their customers, are unimportant, just as long as we keep buying their products.



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A great reference is our lambasted audio systems in the R231’s. They put them in the 2013, found them to be unacceptable by many owners, but left them virtually unchanged through the entire model run.. INSANE! Even with the golden opportunity of the 2017 face lift, all they did was reduce the number of speakers and drop the CD changer, while leaving the inherent problems unresolved. Where is my baseball bat?
Don’t even get me started on colors! They have had pretty much the same, old, worn out, drab, dreary, exterior colors across most of the entire line for years now. And, when they do make a change, they DROP two wonderful colors: Palladium Silver and Mars Red. The R231 has not sold well at all, and I truly believe that one of the big problems is their “50 shades of gray” palette.
Interior colors, in my opinion, are just as bad. Why EVERY interior choice—save one—has to be fully HALF BLACK, is just so disappointing to me. Why not an ALL saddle or an ALL red or an ALL gray interior with a touch of another complimentary, contrasting shade? In the 1980’s, GM started doing this to save money. A red interior had red seats and black everything else. A tan interior had tan seats and black everything else, etc. It is so much cheaper to produce a trim panel only in black, than in several different colors, and to me, that’s what MB ended up with: some cheap looking interiors! Sorry guys, I don’t mean to belittle your interior choice, but that’s how I feel. I would have just LOVED to order my SL450 with a red interior—as in the Porsche shown below—but they don’t offer one, only a red & BLACK. I could do without the red steering wheel, but with Porsche, that would be easy, as the choices are many.
But, don’t complain to the Germans at MB about ANYTHING, because they do not want to hear it. Like overbearing parents, THEY KNOW what we want and and what is best for us. We, their customers, are unimportant, just as long as we keep buying their products.



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The OP's post on this 231 forum was therefore useful to me only as a means to form an opinion about a C8 Corvette color choice!....

Like many, I fully admit to having a 'lust' for Corvettes as a teenager, and I actually did buy a 69 Vette in my early 20's. Twas 'a youthful itch that I needed to scratch', I suppose, but haven't had any desire for any later model Corvettes, or for any kind of 'all-out Exotic' which the new Mid-Engine C8 will now compete with. Just no interest whatsoever in 'Vettes' since the time of my youth, which was so many years ago...

One's personal taste in automobiles tends to evolve over time, and mine most certainly has! I now lean more toward refinement, sophistication, comfort, and build quality, while still desiring the sportiness and performance of a powerful 2-Seat Roadster!...
.I'm pleased to say that my 231 Mercedes-Benz SL 550 delivers all of that and more, and unlike the C8 Corvette, the 231 doesn't have any direct competition. There's really nothing quite like it from any other brand, regardless of price!. The 231 still exists in a league all it's own!..


.
A great reference is our lambasted audio systems in the R231’s. They put them in the 2013, found them to be unacceptable by many owners, but left them virtually unchanged through the entire model run.. INSANE! Even with the golden opportunity of the 2017 face lift, all they did was reduce the number of speakers and drop the CD changer, while leaving the inherent problems unresolved. Where is my baseball bat?
Don’t even get me started on colors! They have had pretty much the same, old, worn out, drab, dreary, exterior colors across most of the entire line for years now. And, when they do make a change, they DROP two wonderful colors: Palladium Silver and Mars Red. The R231 has not sold well at all, and I truly believe that one of the big problems is their “50 shades of gray” palette.
Interior colors, in my opinion, are just as bad. Why EVERY interior choice—save one—has to be fully HALF BLACK, is just so disappointing to me. Why not an ALL saddle or an ALL red or an ALL gray interior with a touch of another complimentary, contrasting shade? In the 1980’s, GM started doing this to save money. A red interior had red seats and black everything else. A tan interior had tan seats and black everything else, etc. It is so much cheaper to produce a trim panel only in black, than in several different colors, and to me, that’s what MB ended up with: some cheap looking interiors! Sorry guys, I don’t mean to belittle your interior choice, but that’s how I feel. I would have just LOVED to order my SL450 with a red interior—as in the Porsche shown below—but they don’t offer one, only a red & BLACK. I could do without the red steering wheel, but with Porsche, that would be easy, as the choices are many.
But, don’t complain to the Germans at MB about ANYTHING, because they do not want to hear it. Like overbearing parents, THEY KNOW what we want and and what is best for us. We, their customers, are unimportant, just as long as we keep buying their products.



Not 'stubborn' enough about their Exterior/Interior color choices!...

However, having said that, I will also say this:
Long Live my Palladium Silver Metallic MB 231 SL550 with Ginger Beige/Espresso Brown Nappa and Burlwood Trim, including the Steering Wheel....

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Last edited by bob55; Jul 28, 2019 at 11:58 AM.
Rapid Blue for me..................
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1-tbJtpN90

They gave some engineer too much leeway lol
"The Client and Server does not support a common SSL protocol or cipher suite"
From the error detail: "This is likely because the server needs RC4 which is no longer considered secure"

Note: (Using Google's Chrome Browser on a Windows Laptop - No such issues on any othe forums, just this one!)






