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Old 09-22-2021, 11:04 PM
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Question R232 Drivetrain Questions

Does anyone know if the 9G in the 232 will be the AMG version? Asking this because of the hard shifting issues that have been an issue with some of the non-AMG versions of the 9G.

I've also read something about AWD, is this just going to be an option or will they all be that way? I prefer it just be an option as a pure RWD would be nice.
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Does anyone know if the 9G in the 232 will be the AMG version? Asking this because of the hard shifting issues that have been an issue with some of the non-AMG versions of the 9G.

I've also read something about AWD, is this just going to be an option or will they all be that way? I prefer it just be an option as a pure RWD would be nice.
The 63 models will use the 9 speed MCT. Not sure if this an updated version or the one currently used. The 53 models use yet another 9 speed; the AMGSPEEDSHIFT TCT 9G, which similar to the regular non-AMG 9G-Tronic but with different software.
As to the hard downshifts reported on the S-Class forum, I think it is a matter of perception. Most of them will have never experienced a MCT. These usually have harder downshifts in normal use.
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
The 63 models will use the 9 speed MCT. Not sure if this an updated version or the one currently used. The 53 models use yet another 9 speed; the AMGSPEEDSHIFT TCT 9G, which similar to the regular non-AMG 9G-Tronic but with different software.
As to the hard downshifts reported on the S-Class forum, I think it is a matter of perception. Most of them will have never experienced a MCT. These usually have harder downshifts in normal use.
Thanks, any idea about AWD or RWD versions?
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Thanks, any idea about AWD or RWD versions?
Only the base 43 will be offered with RWD. All other models are AWD
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
Only the base 43 will be offered with RWD. All other models are AWD
Thanks, although I can appreciate the benefits of AWD it would have been nice if RWD was standard with AWD as an option for the 63's.
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Thanks, although I can appreciate the benefits of AWD it would have been nice if RWD was standard with AWD as an option for the 63's.
I suppose. Personally I think it's a good move to have AWD as it increases the practicality of the car in places like MN. On the 63 you will have selectable RWD like other AMG's..
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I suppose. Personally I think it's a good move to have AWD as it increases the practicality of the car in places like MN. On the 63 you will have selectable RWD like other AMG's..
I’ve had issues with the 9G when combined with awd creating unwanted vibrations, hopefully they will be absent in the AMG version

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It would appear the SL will not employ the EQ Boost system, at least in the 55 and 63 models. No images or videos of the car at the product learning event today show any signs of EQ Boost being used. Expect the SL to use the existing MCT transmission, not the 9G Tronic from the current W223 etc.



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This news about the SL55 being a V8 has been flying under anyones radar. That seems to be great news for most. MCT makes sense as they are only mated to the V8 engines.
The P3 hybrid for the V8 would only be in the upcoming 63e model.

Still, the SL55 is an odd duck, almost like a temp. config to keep people happy. It is so low on power (less than the detuned V8 sold to Aston Martin) that this thing sounds like the pre-EQ boost M176 non-AMG engine (a la 560). Definitely old-school. Look forward to hearing more...
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New Details on R232’s Suspension/Features

According to BenzBlogger the new R232 SL will feature a newly designed suspension, featuring front-axle lift, as well as 2.5 degree rear wheel steering.

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Originally Posted by Wolfman
This news about the SL55 being a V8 has been flying under anyones radar. That seems to be great news for most. MCT makes sense as they are only mated to the V8 engines.
The P3 hybrid for the V8 would only be in the upcoming 63e model.

Still, the SL55 is an odd duck, almost like a temp. config to keep people happy. It is so low on power (less than the detuned V8 sold to Aston Martin) that this thing sounds like the pre-EQ boost M176 non-AMG engine (a la 560). Definitely old-school. Look forward to hearing more...
I read that it will be much softer than the 63 version and that it's really a nod to current SL550 owners, but since it's all AMG it's an SL550 in all but name.

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Originally Posted by Wolfman
This news about the SL55 being a V8 has been flying under anyones radar. That seems to be great news for most. MCT makes sense as they are only mated to the V8 engines.
The P3 hybrid for the V8 would only be in the upcoming 63e model.

Still, the SL55 is an odd duck, almost like a temp. config to keep people happy. It is so low on power (less than the detuned V8 sold to Aston Martin) that this thing sounds like the pre-EQ boost M176 non-AMG engine (a la 560). Definitely old-school. Look forward to hearing more...

Has it been confirmed that these are the ONLY engines being offered. I was sort of hoping for one with the inline 6. but the power output of the v8 in the 55 is so close to the 53 hp that I'm feeling like that's not gonna happen.
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Has it been confirmed that these are the ONLY engines being offered. I was sort of hoping for one with the inline 6. but the power output of the v8 in the 55 is so close to the 53 hp that I'm feeling like that's not gonna happen.
Nothing has been officially confirmed since the car has not been launched yet. Based on product training leaks/reports, the US lists only the V8 engine.
Based on prior info out of Germany, the car would come in several flavors from 43 to 73 (63e) but only included the inline 4 (M254 for the 43 & M139 for the 53) and V8 (M177) also in ePerformance (P3 hybrid). No 6 cylinder was ever mentioned.

Now the mentioned SL55 was on nobodies radar (except a mention in 2019). It makes no sense to add an AMG engine and throttle it down to about the power of the SL550 or S560. Wether this is only for the US or based on customer feedback or other engines not being ready due to COVID delays or supply shortage, who knows.
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