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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 01:35 PM
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Terrible configuration of options.

Very nice of them to REQUIRE AMG Performance Seats on the SL63 if the Buyer wishes to have performance options like the AMG Dynamic Plus Package, front axle lift, or Carbon Ceramic Brakes, which are only available if the DY2 package is selected; that DY2 package requires AMG Performance Seats.

Mercedes-Benz is also nice enough to REQUIRE that the car be a Night Package car if any of those performance options are desired.

Basically, you will be forced to have the less comfortable seats if you want an SL63 and desire to have performance options.

Very restrictive ordering guide.

And stupid.

Driver Assistance Package shouldn't be an option anymore on a car at this price point from Mercedes-Benz. Just stop with the nonsense with packages at this price point! None of the performance options besides ceramic brakes and performance seats should be options -- those should all be standard!

Besides Buyer's choice of interior and exterior colors and leather/trim which may come at a cost, this car should have just a few standalone cost options:
(1) Comfort Seats or AMG Performance Seats
(2) High-end 3D sound system
(3) Wheels
(4) Carbon-Ceramic Brakes
(5) Night Package (or just make it a no-cost option)

No package should exist, and everything else mentioned in the order guide should be standard or a no-cost standalone option. This is a range-topping vehicle, not an AMG GLA45 or an AMG E53.

Mercedes-Benz: if you're listening, you're going to learn some awful lessons with this very expensive car. Please get your act together.

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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 03:07 PM
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Terrible configuration of options.

Very nice of them to REQUIRE AMG Performance Seats if the Buyer wishes to have performance options like the AMG Dynamic Plus Package, front axle lift, or Carbon Ceramic Brakes, which are only available if the DY2 package is selected; that DY2 package requires AMG Performance Seats.

Mercedes-Benz is also nice enough to REQUIRE that the car be a Night Package car if any of those performance options are desired.

Basically, you will be forced to have the less comfortable seats if you want an SL63 and desire to have performance options; if you want an SL55 and want any performance option besides AMG Active Ride Control, which is available as a standalone option only on the SL55, you'll be forced to have the less comfortable seats.

Very restrictive ordering guide.

And stupid.

Driver Assistance Package shouldn't be an option anymore on a car at this price point. Just stop with the nonsense with packages at this price point! None of the performance options besides ceramic brakes and performance seats should be options -- those should all be standard!

Besides Buyer's choice of interior and exterior colors and leather/trim which may come at a cost, this car should have just a few standalone cost options:
(1) Comfort Seats or AMG Performance Seats
(2) High-end 3D sound system
(3) Wheels
(4) Carbon-Ceramic Brakes
(5) Night Package (or just make it a no-cost option)

No package should exist, and everything else mentioned in the order guide should be standard or a no-cost standalone option. This is a range-topping vehicle, not an AMG GLA45 or an AMG E53.

Mercedes-Benz: if you're listening, you're going to learn some awful lessons with this very expensive car. Please get your act together.
You are obviously joking... I don't see Porsche or Ferrari or anyone else for that matter doing this. They nickel and dime you for everything down to the color options of the keyfob. Why should Mercedes throw everything in for free?

I do agree on the seats. On the GTC they offered different seat pattern for the same price, but all were the identical performance seats (same as now in the SL)

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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 03:08 PM
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Interesting the model designations 232.481 and 232.480 match the ones in the leaked list of models. So one would presume we will see the others that were in that list including 43, 53, 53E and 73E
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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 03:58 PM
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You are obviously joking... I don't see Porsche or Ferrari or anyone else for that matter doing this. They nickel and dime you for everything down to the color options of the keyfob. Why should Mercedes throw everything in for free?

I do agree on the seats. On the GTC they offered different seat pattern for the same price, but all were the identical performance seats (same as now in the SL)
They shouldn’t throw it in for free. They should charge for it but packaged together in the base price of the car. Mercedes is playing catch-up here because they are the ones who have lost market share. Their market share in this segment is the joke — sales of the previous SL and AMG GT coupe and roadster prove that. I suggest they can attract old and new buyers by offering a competitive advantage: all cars on the road will be the best the model offers with variations only in meaningless cosmetic options (or ceramic brakes, if someone feels like spending the money).
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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
They shouldn’t throw it in for free. They should charge for it but packaged together in the base price of the car. Mercedes is playing catch-up here because they are the ones who have lost market share. Their market share in this segment is the joke — sales of the previous SL and AMG GT coupe and roadster prove that. I suggest they can attract old and new buyers by offering a competitive advantage: all cars on the road will be the best the model offers with variations only in meaningless cosmetic options (or ceramic brakes, if someone feels like spending the money).
Then you would complain the base price is too high.
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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
Terrible configuration of options.

Very nice of them to REQUIRE AMG Performance Seats if the Buyer wishes to have performance options like the AMG Dynamic Plus Package, front axle lift, or Carbon Ceramic Brakes, which are only available if the DY2 package is selected; that DY2 package requires AMG Performance Seats.

Mercedes-Benz is also nice enough to REQUIRE that the car be a Night Package car if any of those performance options are desired.

Basically, you will be forced to have the less comfortable seats if you want an SL63 and desire to have performance options; if you want an SL55 and want any performance option besides AMG Active Ride Control, which is available as a standalone option only on the SL55, you'll be forced to have the less comfortable seats.

Very restrictive ordering guide.

And stupid.

Driver Assistance Package shouldn't be an option anymore on a car at this price point. Just stop with the nonsense with packages at this price point! None of the performance options besides ceramic brakes and performance seats should be options -- those should all be standard!

Besides Buyer's choice of interior and exterior colors and leather/trim which may come at a cost, this car should have just a few standalone cost options:
(1) Comfort Seats or AMG Performance Seats
(2) High-end 3D sound system
(3) Wheels
(4) Carbon-Ceramic Brakes
(5) Night Package (or just make it a no-cost option)

No package should exist, and everything else mentioned in the order guide should be standard or a no-cost standalone option. This is a range-topping vehicle, not an AMG GLA45 or an AMG E53.

Mercedes-Benz: if you're listening, you're going to learn some awful lessons with this very expensive car. Please get your act together.
Lol, this has always been the case with Mercedes and every other European manufacturer. And it will never change. I think most dealerships are smart with ordering their cars and balance these options + price when configuring cars for the floor.
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Then you would complain the base price is too high.
Actually -

I wouldn’t.
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…if you want an SL55 and want any performance option besides AMG Active Ride Control, which is available as a standalone option only on the SL55, you'll be forced to have the less comfortable seats.
This is not true. The SL55 Performance Line does not include the sport seats. You can order the Performance Line with the quilted Exclusive leather multi contour massage seats if you’d like…was putting my order in with the dealer today and that is one of the configurations I was considering. The order system accepted it, but in the end went another direction.

And I, for one, am glad all of the driver assistance stuff is optional…I cannot stand any of it. Truth be told there are very few options on the new SL…comes standard with a ton of things Porsche charges extra for (and Mercedes charges extra for on lower models).

Thanks @Eaton for posting!

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Well, I ordered an SL63. Sort of. Don't know when it will arrive, don't know how much it will cost. But I put down a $5000 deposit, and the dealer has promised to sell it to me at MSRP.

I'm the customer they were aiming at. I had a 2013 SL63 which I miss greatly; and a 2017 S63 cabriolet, which I never quite warmed up to (tremendously capable, but too tremendous). I just sold it back to the dealer. My 2021 GLA45 will suffice for the several months I'll have to wait.

Some automotive magazine articles indicated that the soft top on the new SL would be available in three colors, but only two (black and red) showed up on the order guide. The red top will be controversial, and I'd bet won't be ordered by more than 10% of the buyers. Naturally, I ordered one.

Alpine Grey, red top, black/red pepper leather, 21" forged cross-spoke black wheels, driver assistance package, performance package. Couldn't check the ceramic brakes box; had to economize somewhere.

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Well, I ordered an SL63. Sort of. Don't know when it will arrive, don't know how much it will cost. But I put down a $5000 deposit, and the dealer has promised to sell it to me at MSRP.

I'm the customer they were aiming at. I had a 2013 SL63 which I miss greatly; and a 2017 S63 cabriolet, which I never quite warmed up to (tremendously capable, but too tremendous). I just sold it back to the dealer. My 2021 GLA45 will suffice for the several months I'll have to wait.

Some automotive magazine articles indicated that the soft top on the new SL would be available in three colors, but only two (black and red) showed up on the order guide. The red top will be controversial, and I'd bet won't be ordered by more than 10% of the buyers. Naturally, I ordered one.

Alpine Grey, red top, black/red pepper leather, 21" forged cross-spoke black wheels, driver assistance package, performance package. Couldn't check the ceramic brakes box; had to economize somewhere.
That's one nice spec, the red top should pair well with the gray exterior and provide some nice "flair" to the car.
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My one question is what happened to this interior color from the original interior teaser shots? Its not Macchiato since the lower floor and center tunnel is black but its also not shown in the DOG.


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Sucks that you can't get the comfort seats together with the Dynamic Plus package on the SL63. I never found the seats on my AMG GT S to be that comfortable, and I loved the seats on the R231 SL63 (and the seats on my C216 CL63).

If I ever get one, I'd go for an SL63 with the Touring Trim Line and Driver Assistance Package, in either Hyper Blue Metallic or Patagonia Red Metallic, with "STYLE Exclusive Black / Tartufo Brown Nappa Leather" and Dark Shadow trim.

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Sucks that you can't get the comfort seats together with the Dynamic Plus package on the SL63. I never found the seats on my AMG GT S to be that comfortable, and I loved the seats on the R231 SL63 (and the seats on my C216 CL63).

If I ever get one, I'd go for an SL63 with the Touring Trim Line and Driver Assistance Package, in either Hyper Blue Metallic or Patagonia Red Metallic, with "STYLE Exclusive Black / Tartufo Brown Nappa Leather" and Dark Shadow trim.
Isn't the Dynamic Plus package "standard" with the SL63 and therefore only optional on the SL55?

Will be interesting to see more color/trim options later on. And of course the SL63e (or SL73?) with e-performance and > 800 HP!
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Isn't the Dynamic Plus package "standard" with the SL63 and therefore only optional on the SL55?

Will be interesting to see more color/trim options later on. And of course the SL63e (or SL73?) with e-performance and > 800 HP!
This confused me. The “SL63 DY2” trim level supposedly adds dynamic plus package, but I’m not sure what that package consists of on the SL63, since I my understanding is that race mode and the hydraulic anti-roll suspension are standard on it.

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My one question is what happened to this interior color from the original interior teaser shots? Its not Macchiato since the lower floor and center tunnel is black but its also not shown in the DOG.

Hopefully we can order this color interior.. I think its probably one of their best looking ones by far. I dont know why benz would omit this color from the dog. If anyone know anything please update us.
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check out the video at 17:40… It is a crappy design unfortunately…
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check out the video at 17:40… It is a crappy design unfortunately…
https://youtu.be/c8qoOOrjblE
Thanks. It's nice when in place. The folding aspect is clever for storage.
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check out the video at 17:40… It is a crappy design unfortunately…
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Just saw this, thanks for sharing.

Manual wind deflector…. terrible.

Indeed there are so many awful characteristics of this new car depicted in that video.
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Just saw this, thanks for sharing.

Manual wind deflector…. terrible.

Indeed there are so many awful characteristics of this new car depicted in that video.
Why? It is possible that the air flow does not require the windscreen, hence making it attachable if really needed. I'm not seeing the problem. Also, since the SL63 is designated as 2+2, logically the windscreen would not be defaulted.
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