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SL/R232: Market Adjustment - $15,000 ! (DOWN)

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Old 04-12-2023, 06:21 PM
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Market Adjustment - $15,000 ! (DOWN)

I know I promised to not post on this forum again, but I had to post this photo taken today at MB of Westminster, Colorado. This was on a SOLD yellow SL63R. I post it without comment. That's all.


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Not sure what the point is? That’s not a good deal at all. You can get 10% off a 63 and even more for one with a few miles. They priced the 63 way too high.
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Nice to finally see a market adjustment that is down vs up
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Nice to finally see a market adjustment that is down vs up
discount are cool again. Even on Tesla.
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Other than select cars like the 911 or G-Wagon the world is finally coming back to normal it seems. Even the brand new BMW XM is already getting deals with $10k off MSRP and Tesla is slashing prices every month as buyers are finally starting to realize that market adjustments are not worth it.
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This downward Market Adjustment might mean that 2023 SLs might be coming soon, prompting the dealer to clear up the 22' inventory?
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I seem to recall the skeptics that claimed discounts on the R232 wouldn't happen...........I feel bad for those who paid $50K over list and became unwitting beta testers. This is just the start of discounts........be patient to save money and hopefully the gremlins will be cured.
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This downward Market Adjustment might mean that 2023 SLs might be coming soon, prompting the dealer to clear up the 22' inventory?
They'll clear out the 22's and then eventually start dealing on the 23's.
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Are they good deals or just inflated MSRP to make ya feel good when you get so much off?

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Not sure what the point is? That’s not a good deal at all. You can get 10% off a 63 and even more for one with a few miles
I often wonder what the bases for claims like this one are. How do you know this? It’s pretty unusual for dealers to discuss pricing in detail with those not actively looking to buy.
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I often wonder what the bases for claims like this one are. How do you know this? It’s pretty unusual for dealers to discuss pricing in detail with those not actively looking to buy.
easy. Call your local dealer and find out. I’m very good friends with a GM and we discuss pricing all the time. Besides, I’m a current customer and follow the market.

I often wonder if people question statements without doing any research?

if that wasn’t enough have you taken 5 minutes and checked the internet? Go to truecar and take a look. Average savings 13%. https://www.truecar.com/new-cars-for...cedes-benz-sl/



or what about just going to a Mercedes website and clicking see my best deal?


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Just go to https://www.hoimercedes.com and click on sl63. There are 11 of them. Now click see our best deal instantly. See what discounts they are offering.

Another interesting piece of info, I was toying around with trading my car for something else. 163k msrp with 3k miles and dealer offered 120k in trade. Needless to say, I passed on the deal and will keep enjoying my SL.

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easy. Call your local dealer and find out. I’m very good friends with a GM and we discuss pricing all the time. Besides, I’m a current customer and follow the market.

I often wonder if people question statements without doing any research?

if that wasn’t enough have you taken 5 minutes and checked the internet? Go to truecar and take a look. Average savings 13%. https://www.truecar.com/new-cars-for...cedes-benz-sl/



or what about just going to a Mercedes website and clicking see my best deal?
I didn’t mean this to get contentious (and am sorry you apparently viewed it that way), and please don’t take this question as such, but I also wonder where TrueCar (which is how I found my SL55 purchased at MSRP) gets transactional data for sales of new cars (I am questioning how, not whether they do). Two months ago it was the only SL55 I found available in the Chicago market.

Used car prices are a whole different story. I have no doubt that these cars will be depreciation nightmares.
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Originally Posted by drgek
I didn’t mean this to get contentious (and am sorry you apparently viewed it that way), and please don’t take this question as such, but I also wonder where TrueCar (which is how I found my SL55 purchased at MSRP) gets transactional data for sales of new cars (I am questioning how, not whether they do). Two months ago it was the only SL55 I found available in the Chicago market.

Used car prices are a whole different story. I have no doubt that these cars will be depreciation nightmares.
no worries and we are all good!. Go to that California dealer I cited to and check the discounts on brand new SL55 or 63s. They are discounting 55s $7500 and 63s $26k. Those are for brand new cars. The market has drastically changed in the last 2 months.

Btw, I’ve also wondered where truecar gets their data but pre-COVID they were very accurate.
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That there are discounts on new SL's is what was to be expected. Using the older model year definitely impacts sales prices and unfortunately this continued delivery delay of MY23 means that the trend continues.
You easily get these at triple net and then some due to trunk money although warmer weather will accelerate convertible sales.
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That there are discounts on new SL's is what was to be expected. Using the older model year definitely impacts sales prices and unfortunately this continued delivery delay of MY23 means that the trend continues.
You easily get these at triple net and then some due to trunk money although warmer weather will accelerate convertible sales.
@Wolfman do you think the 2024/2025 AMG GT will have the SL55's current unmolested V8 engine? I might be able to afford one if prices keep dropping...as a Ute, always liked the C107 450SLC.
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@Wolfman do you think the 2024/2025 AMG GT will have the SL55's current unmolested V8 engine? I might be able to afford one if prices keep dropping...as a Ute, always liked the C107 450SLC.
I imagine it will share the engines and probably get the S63e engine as the top trim.
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@Wolfman do you think the 2024/2025 AMG GT will have the SL55's current unmolested V8 engine? I might be able to afford one if prices keep dropping...as a Ute, always liked the C107 450SLC.
Not much is known other than there will be the 63 and 63 ePerformance trim and some lower end model (43), given the exhaust. Given that the GT is labeled as the hardcore version, expect a different suspension setup, hopefully less weight and perhaps a different power setup in the engines. The SL is low on power compared to the standard 63 twin scroll Turbo engines that are 603hp so they could do the HP bump.
The SL55 was a (nice) surprise as earlier chatter suggested a SL53, also with a 4 cylinder. Since they have the 55 engine for the same platform, it is a logical addition but I haven't seen anything about that.
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Not much is known other than there will be the 63 and 63 ePerformance trim and some lower end model (43), given the exhaust. Given that the GT is labeled as the hardcore version, expect a different suspension setup, hopefully less weight and perhaps a different power setup in the engines. The SL is low on power compared to the standard 63 twin scroll Turbo engines that are 603hp so they could do the HP bump.
The SL55 was a (nice) surprise as earlier chatter suggested a SL53, also with a 4 cylinder. Since they have the 55 engine for the same platform, it is a logical addition but I haven't seen anything about that.
Hopefully 2025 GT63 engine will be free of trickery...don't want the GT63e. Trying to keep 2021 AMG wagon but will let the Ducati and SS go if the GT63 has a V8, lightweight, and is affordable.
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Hopefully 2025 GT63 engine will be free of trickery...don't want the GT63e. Trying to keep 2021 AMG wagon but will let the Ducati and SS go if the GT63 has a V8, lightweight, and is affordable.
The new GT will likely be neither; lightweight or affordable
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The new GT will likely be neither; lightweight or affordable
Thanks for the spoonful of Cod Liver Oil...lol

With $10,000 Exclusive offer the SL55 is affordable. Hopefully MBUSA adjusts its MSRP like BMW did for the M850i in the future. Will have to test drive the SL over the next few years. Maybe droptop will replace the Ducati, December 2025 when I'm done with College Tuition. Last convertible was Dad's 1968 Pontiac Catalina with 400 cubic inch V8.
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My dealer came out the gate with a 15k$ CAD discount. I'm confident with enough talking you can get 30k$ off easily.

In fact, in the states there's the conquest deal for an added 10k, so really, I wouldn't be surprised if you can get ~35k off if you negotiate strong
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In the States, I have not come across any discounts close to $30k off a 2022 SL55. Most US dealers are using the $10k Conquest dollars as the discount plus the availability of the Mercedes Finance 3.9% interest rate. Unless MB is providing dealers with additional large subsidies, the dealers do not have $30k of profit on a SL55 (it is not expensive enough).


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