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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 12:50 AM
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 11:45 AM
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Oh Mercedes - what have you done?

The old AMG GT IS an aggressive, sexy beast that has done exceptionally well on the track.

The new AMG GT looks like a watered down compromise version that has gone through one corporate design review too many.

And what really has been achieved? Two useless emergency seats to compete with Porsche? I think Porsche has nothing to worry about.

And then of course is the TESLA treatment of the cabin. What in the world is this giant tablet doing in a sport’s car. The saddest part is the new car maintains all the real estate that the old GT had for instruments and screen. Why oh why did they do this.

I will be very surprised if the new GT will get a huge fan pool.
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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 02:14 PM
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………..And what really has been achieved?…………..
What they achieved, is that they saved money. In one fell swoop, they lost the SL and the AMG GT and gave us compromises of both. But don’t worry, I hear that an AMG GT SUV is coming in both standard and “coupe” versions and there will be twelve new Magno colors, so all is not lost.
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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tifoso48
Oh Mercedes - what have you done?

The old AMG GT IS an aggressive, sexy beast that has done exceptionally well on the track.

The new AMG GT looks like a watered down compromise version that has gone through one corporate design review too many.

And what really has been achieved? Two useless emergency seats to compete with Porsche? I think Porsche has nothing to worry about.

And then of course is the TESLA treatment of the cabin. What in the world is this giant tablet doing in a sport’s car. The saddest part is the new car maintains all the real estate that the old GT had for instruments and screen. Why oh why did they do this.

I will be very surprised if the new GT will get a huge fan pool.
According to one article (I believe Autocar?) there was demand from customers for a more livable and daily-able car than the current GT model. Guess we’ll see whether it works out. It does seem to have caught the attention of BMW owners, some 8-Series owners on the forum are very interested in the GT.
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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 03:53 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 03:56 PM
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According to one article (I believe Autocar?) there was demand from customers for a more livable and daily-able car than the current GT model. Guess we’ll see whether it works out. It does seem to have caught the attention of BMW owners, some 8-Series owners on the forum are very interested in the GT.
And RBR just posted this:

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OPINION PIECE :- The New AMG GT is here. You’ve had a day to digest it, I’ve had much longer - so some thoughts from a 7-time GT buyer.
🫡 Firstly, this is not a traditional AMG GT. I agree with you. 👍
We’ve lost a number of things - rear transaxle + front mid engine layout (gearbox in back/perfect weight distribution), lighter weight, RWD + a higher price tag.
🤷‍♂️ Clearly this is NOT a direct successor. So what is it instead?
❗️ This shares a nigh identical drivetrain layout to the GT63 4 door — and feels like a 2 door version of that car.
It’s grown to a DB12 sized/weight car (DB12 also 1890 with fluids). This bigger car is now 4Matic+,, and a tonne more luxuries than before: massaging seats, self driving, motor power boot, ambient lighting, 360 cam, head up display, and a rear bench. I’m missing loads.

But did AMG need a focused 911-ish sports car instead?!
❌ I’m not convinced of that - the current line up at AMG has nothing to cater for the V8 performance enthusiast, in terms of a 2 door daily coupe. The S63 coupe is dead, as is the C63 V8, CLS 63 and the list goes on. While a sports car is nice, it likely wouldn’t appeal to many
🤔 To my mind - a more daily AMG GT is much more attractive to the AMG fan as they stand today - and the proof is in the response. ✉️ I have been literally flooded with DMs and emails on how and when to order this car - that hadn’t happened since the GT R was announced!
🔚 Is that the end then? No more track car? Not necessarily- this is just the FIRST GT model. There’s room to drop weight by binning the tonne of luxury that this car gained (massage seats, ambient light, motor powered boot, rear bench etc) and create a track monster. Head of GT product Mathias didn’t give me a flat no, rather was excited for the future.
🥳 Everyone who has told me they want to order so far have not only been “old men with whining wives” as one tuner put it - rather, you’re all ex-GT/ C63/ AMG V8 customers who have finally found a new car to call home. And I’m with you. Let’s just hope it drives the part! 🏁


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This is what the cockpit of a GT should look like - this is the new Aston Martin DB 12 Grand Tourer.

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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 06:37 PM
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AM finally stepped it up with the interior tech.
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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 10:06 PM
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AM finally stepped it up with the interior tech.
Yes they did - looks fantastic😄

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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 11:00 PM
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This is what the cockpit of a GT should look like - this is the new Aston Martin DB 12 Grand Tourer.
That steering wheel should be black or wood. Hopefully, in a car the class of an AM, there will be several options, but light, leather steering wheels to me, just don’t make much sense.

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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 11:28 PM
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This is a much better image:



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This is a much better image:


Looks like several REAL buttons & switches on that steering wheel. Kudos to AM.
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This is a much better image:


Looks almost like an AMG hub and rim with different spokes.
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Looks almost like an AMG hub and rim with different spokes.
Besides the engine, there are still lots of MB electronics in the car. It looks like the old MB steering wheel components with slightly different knobs. Overall, the DB12 is a great looking car
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The new AMG GT is good looking car. I think the wider body makes up for a lot of it. I like the look although the Black Series looking grill is not me favorite. Nice curves, great stance. I would love for the SL to have the wider hips of the GT...

That said, weight and weight distribution could have been better. This car definitely feels more M8 than 911.

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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 01:29 PM
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Besides the engine, there are still lots of MB electronics in the car. It looks like the old MB steering wheel components with slightly different knobs. Overall, the DB12 is a great looking car
Agreed DB12 is an excellent looking car, although while I do love an AMG engine, I like them in AMG’s. I personally don’t think they fit the character of Aston cars and wish they felt more different. The last Vantage I drove didn’t impress me much. I prefer their old NA V8 and V12’s.
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Agreed DB12 is an excellent looking car, although while I do love an AMG engine, I like them in AMG’s. I personally don’t think they fit the character of Aston cars and wish they felt more different. The last Vantage I drove didn’t impress me much. I prefer their old NA V8 and V12’s.
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Oh I know, its the same way MB and Porsche wouldn’t be able to survive without their cheaper models despite as much as we all complain. That being said, AM could drop off the face of the world and I wouldn’t bat an eye.
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Originally Posted by js_cls
Looks almost like an AMG hub and rim with different spokes.
Just remember that Tobias Moers, who was the head of AMG and who had a big part in the creation of the AMG GT/s left AMG and went to Aston Martin a few years ago and undoubtedly played a big role in the development of the Aston Martin DB 12 which runs on the AMG 4.0 liter V8, yes, they goosed the HP to 620 or thereabouts, but there is no doubt that something did rub off.

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It would have been so nice if it had cut both ways : Aston Martin inherits the great AMG engine and AMG inherits some of the style and class of how a great GT interior should look like.
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It would have been so nice if it had cut both ways : Aston Martin inherits the great AMG engine and AMG inherits some of the style and class of how a great GT interior should look like.
VERY well said!
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Originally Posted by Tifoso48
Just remember that Tobias Moers, who was the head of AMG and who had a big part in the creation of the AMG GT/s left AMG and went to Aston Martin a few years ago and undoubtedly played a big role in the development of the Aston Martin DB 12 which runs on the AMG 4.0 liter V8, yes, they goosed the HP to 620 or thereabouts, but there is no doubt that something did rub off.
MB claims the SL63 with 575hp and 3.5 zero to sixty. Reality is 620hp at 3.0 zero to sixty.
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what is your source for that information - that really would be quite something?!
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