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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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AMG Premiere Weekend at 2002 Paris Auto Show!

Mercedes just World Premiered the following at the 2002 Paris Auto show:

C30 CDI AMG
E55 AMG
S55 AMG
CL 55 AMG

Go to www.mercedes-benz.com/amg/e/news/index.htm for more.

Ok you web search heads lets get busy locating pics & information from the Paris Auto Show which runs 9/28 thu 10/13.
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 07:56 PM
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I noticed they got the CL55 interior photo wrong, unless they've down graded the interior to look like the CLK55. Otherwise, the AMG site is pretty cool.
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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So what will the interior color combination options be (leather)?
Black/Blue appears to be one.
Black/Grey?
Black/White?
Black/Berry?
Black/Black?
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 12:36 AM
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Very nice website, and very impressive numbers on the C30 CDI ! ! !

thanks for the link E55 KEV
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So what will the interior color combination options be (leather)?
Black/Blue appears to be one.
Black/Grey?
Black/White?
Black/Berry?
Black/Black?
Well, the AMG site says there will be 3 color combinations. My guess is Black/Blue, Black/Grey, and Black/Black. (Charcoal in place of Black, to be more exact.)

But man I LOVE the new S55. The interior looks to have been updated with proper AMG sports seats and amg/v8 kompressor logo's in the dash pod. And, it's now just a tick behind the E55 at 4.8 secs for 0-100km/hr.
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 02:38 AM
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I wonder what the real 0-60 times of these cars will be. As far as I know, I've heard that MB rates these AMGs really, really conservatively.
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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The interior leather combinations are:

anthracite/anthracite
anthracite/dark blue
anthracite/merlot ( dark reddy brown)

You can see them on www.mercedes-benz.de in the Pkw E classe Konfigurator
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Interesting info on the Deutsche MB site, mnh. Thanks.
Any idea why only two body colors are listed (black and dk blue)?
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Any feel for why MB will be selling the new AmG model in Europe as a 2003 but will be skipping the model year for the same car in the states. If the car is available why not offer it here as well? Could it be a production issue? Also now that the car is officially out in Europe has anyone seen the new prices and how they compare to the W210 AmG prices?
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The European prices are at aroud $75,000 euro dollars, but it appears this price is without any extra options that were included in the past on U.S. models. Add $5000-10,000 for comparable options.
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most you all have probably seen...
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Originally posted by bcapp
Any feel for why MB will be selling the new AmG model in Europe as a 2003 but will be skipping the model year for the same car in the states. If the car is available why not offer it here as well? Could it be a production issue? Also now that the car is officially out in Europe has anyone seen the new prices and how they compare to the W210 AmG prices?
The W211 E320 & E500 went on sale in March 2002 as a 2002 model in Germany. It went on sale in the US in August 2002 as a 2003 model. Mercedes-Benz cars in Germany typically have model years prior to the US introduction. Just like the German 1995 E320 W210 is the same as our 1996 E320 W210 and the E55 started as a 1998 model in Germany and the first year for the US was 1999.

I posted the price of the W211 E55 as $74k in this forum:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=18478
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E55 with moonroof - $75,225 usd!

Originally posted by AMGLAB
The European prices are at aroud $75,000 euro dollars, but it appears this price is without any extra options that were included in the past on U.S. models. Add $5000-10,000 for comparable options.
The only option not standard on the German W211 E55 that was standard on the US W210 E55 is the Glass Moonroof.

From the pricelist on Mercedes Germany for W211 E55 the moonroof (code 414) is 1,010 euro which is $993 usd. So in Europe the price of the W211 E55 with moonroof is:

75,500 base plus 1,010 totals 76,510 euro which is $75,225 usd
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My understanding from your previous posting was that the price in Europe is $85K including taxes, not $75K as you are implying here.
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I think we still need to wait & see what the US MSRP will be. I'll be very happy if it is around $75K, but I won't be surprised if it's much more. Bottom line take home price after taxes in Europe looks to be around $85K US. According to the Preisfinder (Price Finder) at the German Mercedes website.

http://www.mercedes-benz.de/preisfin...se/E55AMG.html
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FWIW, the MB Deutschland site lists the price of the '03 CLK55AMG as 77,256 Euros, while the '02 CLK55 in the US was (is still) listed at $67,151.

My German is very limited so I can't interpret details about what's included in the '03 pricelist, but if people here are assuming that a Euro price for the new E55 (>85,000) is going to be very similar to the USD price, the CLK comparison would suggest otherwise.

Who would pay almost $77,000 USD for a CLK55 coupe (not the cab)? MB USA would not attempt to price the CLK55 in that range.

I'm still betting the E55 comes in around $76,500 without options.
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My understanding from your previous posting was that the price in Europe is $85K including taxes, not $75K as you are implying here.
That's rights 'including taxes' It was posted that $85k price included 16% Mwst in Germany which is sales tax like your state sales tax. So the base price as it stands is guessed to be around $75k. We don't have any state with 16% sales tax on cars! Thank God!
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I'm with Jamesp, it will be right around $73k. $80k with a phone and tax.
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Look at this logically, all other countries pricing whose pricing is released show an increase on the outgoing model of around 15%.
MB is keeping pricing of the new E very similar to old, however, E55 now has EBC, Air suspension and supercharger. You would have to factor in 10K for the supercharger install alone.

The new E55 is a significant improvement on the outgoing model and as such is going to be significantly more expensive. The USA does not buy so many E55's annualy that MB is going to make special (read lose money) pricing to make you guys happy.

Be prepared for pricing of 80K plus, just under the price of the S500 and be pleasantly surpised if it comes in better, rather than disappointed.
The upside is, the option list for the E55 is very limited as virtually everything is standard equipment.

The Euro pricing you are comparing with shows the E55 to be 10% more expensive than the S500 (69,200 euro), which comparatively would price the car at $88,000 in the USA.
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