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Old 03-23-2009, 05:04 PM
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Hello E55 owners,

AMS is having a special group buy exclusively for W210 E55 AMG owners for our Stage 2 Performance Package (High performance Headers & Pulley). MSRP is $1799. Our Stage 2 price is normally $1699. For the next few weeks only we will offer it at a special Group Buy Price of only $1599 ($200 savings) in addition to savings in shipping costs.

Minimum: 3 sets
Maximum: 5 sets

Price: $1599 ($200 savings)


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Great deal! Let's see if I can make it happen in the next few weeks...i'll hit you up.
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Lets just say in a better economy I wouldn't pass this up.
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thank you for your kind words, we are doing our best to provides the best performance products at the lowest price and we understand times are tough. Our Stage 2 performance pack costs less than most other shorty headers alone so we feel this is an offer that can't be passed up b/c it really is the best performance mods per dollar. If you change your mind let us know and we can add you to the list.

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Whats sort of HP gains would these mods bring?
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Here are some of our customers independent dynos for reference (more dynos coming later this week):

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Looks like, if I'm reading the charts right (scale is different on headers chart):

Pulley: 10 WHP and 15-20 lbs-ft torque

Headers: 7 WHP (14 WHP near redline) and 10 lbs-ft torque (25 lbs ft down low, but that may be an anomaly due to the difficulty in dynoing at low RPM).

Pretty impressive gains out of the pulley, especially given the price and how easy it is to install.
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Originally Posted by saintz
Looks like, if I'm reading the charts right (scale is different on headers chart):

Pulley: 10 WHP and 15-20 lbs-ft torque

Headers: 7 WHP (14 WHP near redline) and 10 lbs-ft torque (25 lbs ft down low, but that may be an anomaly due to the difficulty in dynoing at low RPM).

Pretty impressive gains out of the pulley, especially given the price and how easy it is to install.
Hello,

That is about correct, headers made 13HP @ wheels (16HP @ crank) post peak HP on the top end. The low end torque is not an anomaly, it acutally does make 25 ft lbs on low end b/c of the way we designed our headers. Multiple before & after tests were done with identical results and remember this was done on newer SLK55 so the dynos can be precisely started at an rpm without downshifting so you just start & go, no interference by transmission when in dyno mode. What separates our products from many others are how they create such a flat & broad torque curve because we try to emphasize on providing our customers with more usable power and just just peaky top end gains which do very little for overall acceleration. Low end to midrange torque is what gets the car moving and that's why we emphasize more on those portions of the power band.

However, on older E55s & CLK55s you won't be able to dyno below 3500 pretty much but this gives you a much better idea as to what both products will make below that mark since they were done on C55 (pulley) and headers (SLK55). All the NA 55's are pretty much in the same range but the torque gains on the W210 E55 should actually be the highest since it makes more torque than the other NA 55s motors. Either way these are good estimates.

Both tests were done 100% independently by our customers so these are real world independent results. We should have CLK55 dyno by end of this week as well depending on when the customer provides it to us. We also have 55K pulley dyno coming as well and we will post the results once the customer provides it to us. Needless to say the results speak for themselves. Thanks for the kind words

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guys i must say the pulley and the header are well worth the money and i my self was a little skeptical at first but after talking to omey and the reciving the product it was worth the money. i only got a week or so to enjoy my headers and all but i noticed a good diffrence in power and exhaust note. I also would say the workmanship is very good on his products. My opinion worth the dollars you spend on this to bad i could not enjoy it more do to my accident but i am enjoying my W211 E55 hehe sorry.
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Hey O,

What exactly is the difference between Stage 3 & Stage 3+?
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Hello Lee,

It is our stage 2 setup plus the most aggressive software tune STUSA has to offer (you can chose 6400rpm redline if you want) but I recommend keeping it at 6000, theres no point in going that high really b/c power peaks even with stage 2 setup before redline. Plus, the 55 AMGs have long enough gearing, you don't need to make it even longer. I always recommend my customers to start off with Stage 2 setup first, see how they like it and then chose to do software later. honestly on these cars software is the last thing you should do because you only really get results once you have already done many other modifications in advance. On a stock car software really does not do that much and isn't worth it by itself (just being honest, which is why we don't even offer software alone, only with our higher stages). Hope that helps.

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I see.... I will be pulling funds from a few different places. I need this mod, asap!!! haha
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Originally Posted by LeeRod80
I see.... I will be pulling funds from a few different places. I need this mod, asap!!! haha
Sounds good, we are always here to tempt you
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:21 PM
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Hey Armani,

I will extend you the same discount via the net difference since you already have the crank pulley (same is true for any of our customers). Let me know if you want to be added as well.
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I've reviewed the entire thread, I see the separate dynos for the pulley and the header but since this is considered a package is there a dyno chart for both parts combined?
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Hello Fangtl,

You simple add the numbers up, the header dyno was done on top of the crank pulley so those are the exact accurate gains. Also keep in mind, the header after dyno was done in VERY hot weather so the real gains will be even more than that comparing to same temps & etc but nonetheless you can see the gains even with the disadvantage.

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$1599 for just headers and pulley?

I'm a new owner here so Im not used to prices like that. When I had a g35 you could purchase headers and pulleys for around $500
but looks like these cars are pretty rare and not that many aftermarket products so i guess thats where the price comes from
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Originally Posted by amgalex
$1599 for just headers and pulley?

I'm a new owner here so Im not used to prices like that. When I had a g35 you could purchase headers and pulleys for around $500
but looks like these cars are pretty rare and not that many aftermarket products so i guess thats where the price comes from
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Originally Posted by amgalex
$1599 for just headers and pulley?

I'm a new owner here so Im not used to prices like that. When I had a g35 you could purchase headers and pulleys for around $500
but looks like these cars are pretty rare and not that many aftermarket products so i guess thats where the price comes from
Appearantly you haven't taken a good look at the aftermarket since you are new to MB & AMG, these prices are an absolute bargain compared to what else is on the market. We have the most competitive prices for pulleys & headers by far compared to the rest of the competition. Most other tuners measure their pricing in body parts not dollars (an arm here, leg there) .

Most headers alone will cost you $1800+ so the fact that you get headers & pulley for less than just headers alone speaks for itself. And as Lee mentioned, many of the other headers out there are mild steel ceramic coated NOT stainless, so they WILL rust no matter what marketing hype they may spin you. These headers will last the life of the car and that's why we have a lifetime warranty on all our products. Thanks

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Hey guys,

will have new dynos of the pulley this coming week as well as 55K pulley as well once customers provide them. Thanks

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Hey guys,

Offer is ending soon and will not be offered again any time soon, if a few of the W210 E55 owners want to get together for the GB please contact via PM/email for confirmation. Thanks

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hey AMS

I'm a new and stupid owner of a W210 E55. What exactly will i get HP and torque wise if i buy your stage 2?
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Originally Posted by CONDEMNED
hey AMS

I'm a new and stupid owner of a W210 E55. What exactly will i get HP and torque wise if i buy your stage 2?
Hello,

That all depends on which rpm you are talking about, but on avg you can see 20+HP and 30+ TQ with the combination. If you do high flow secondary cats (which we highly recommend) that number will jump to about 30HP and 40TQ (high flow 2nd cats make about 10HP/12TQ on dyno). Again these are rough conservative estimates but they should be relatively close.

On these M113 motors its actually much easier to make torque throughout the power band that high end HP because of the extremely torquey cams these cars have in addition to their large displacement.

AMS' approach to modding is quite different from most other tuners. Our approach concentrates on making as much torque throughout the entire power band as possible (as is evident by our dynos). Creating more usable power throughout the power band where it can be used on a daily basis is what makes the car more fun to drive and accelerate more quickly off the line and "feel" more powerful. Making more HP only 5000rpm+ really isn't that beneficial. As the old saying goes HP sells products, TQ wins races.

Hope that helps,
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Originally Posted by AMS Performance
Hello,

That all depends on which rpm you are talking about, but on avg you can see 20+HP and 30+ TQ with the combination. If you do high flow secondary cats (which we highly recommend) that number will jump to about 30HP and 40TQ (high flow 2nd cats make about 10HP/12TQ on dyno). Again these are rough conservative estimates but they should be relatively close.


Hope that helps,
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Hmm, high flow secondary cats add 10HP? I cut out my secondarys and put straight pipes, would that add the same amount?


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