STS TURBO FOR W210 E55???
05-20-2009, 08:00 PM
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STS TURBO FOR W210 E55???
Just started reading about STS and I'm obviosly very interested in them but I can't seem to find out whether or not I can get a set up for mine or even a twin set up. Anybody know about them enough to say if they do and how safe they are for our engines?
05-21-2009, 03:00 AM
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Dutches E55 exhuast is for a T70 turbo with a, now, .81 A/R turbine housing. The most efficient and quickest turbo you all could use for a SINGLE setup is a Garrett 60-1 T04E with a .81 housing. The best twin setup would be two .50/.36 turbo's, consequently thats what the C5 vette uses for 511rwhp at 6psi, un-intercooled 
A Garrett 60-1 T04E with the .81 housing is 850-1200
Two .50/.36 turbos from SPA are 1300
If you feel like spending Kleeman money on the subject you could get ball bearing turbo's that would give supercharger response. Although the two listed will most def. brake boost at 0mph.
A Garrett 60-1 T04E with the .81 housing is 850-1200
Two .50/.36 turbos from SPA are 1300
If you feel like spending Kleeman money on the subject you could get ball bearing turbo's that would give supercharger response. Although the two listed will most def. brake boost at 0mph.
05-21-2009, 01:00 PM
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I can't find anything recent on this matter and that worrries me. I'm getting the feeling that it's beem dropped due to final output being low after install or high "kleemann" pricing.
I did however talk to a guy at mercedes who told me that putting a turbo on a W210 is a horrible idea because of the risks involved(engine blowing).
The guy at mercedes suggested I do this:
1- beefy cam
2- Kleemann ECU tune
3- Headers
4- Complete exhaust job
5- I think he said something about a pulley???
He said I could get up to about 490-500hp going this route!
Can anyone say if these turbos are safe for our cars?
I did however talk to a guy at mercedes who told me that putting a turbo on a W210 is a horrible idea because of the risks involved(engine blowing).
The guy at mercedes suggested I do this:
1- beefy cam
2- Kleemann ECU tune
3- Headers
4- Complete exhaust job
5- I think he said something about a pulley???
He said I could get up to about 490-500hp going this route!
Can anyone say if these turbos are safe for our cars?
05-21-2009, 01:53 PM
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Its absolutely no different than putting a Kleeman S/C on. Boost is boost, no other way around it. As long as you have the appropriate turbo on their it will always be more powerful than the S/C equivalent. If E55's had manual transmissions or auto tranny launch control you would see more turbo variants other than the occasional Kleeman build for some rich dude.
Theres a kitted out NA E55 on youtube, claiming 400 whp with everything you said except cams and the pulley.
Rev, burnout, launch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUQSp...eature=channel
Racing a 420hp RS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OSlq...eature=channel
Theres a kitted out NA E55 on youtube, claiming 400 whp with everything you said except cams and the pulley.
Rev, burnout, launch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUQSp...eature=channel
Racing a 420hp RS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OSlq...eature=channel
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05-21-2009, 02:46 PM
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With all that I've listed up there would you say I could reach 500 horsepower(w/o a turbo)?
And what kind of numbers would I be getting if I did put a turbo or bi-turbo on my car?
And what kind of numbers would I be getting if I did put a turbo or bi-turbo on my car?
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S/C & Turbos are too much stress + time + LOTS of money. Your engine with start to wear/and or blow MUCH faster, amongst other things.
Are you racing your W210 @ the track? If not, then why waste the money? Go with that list you have. Should have enough power for these streets and some track.
That's what i'ma do.
Headers, Tune, Pulley, Throttle body, Magna flow exhaust, etc. I'll be happy with high 400's.
Are you racing your W210 @ the track? If not, then why waste the money? Go with that list you have. Should have enough power for these streets and some track.
That's what i'ma do.
Headers, Tune, Pulley, Throttle body, Magna flow exhaust, etc. I'll be happy with high 400's.
05-21-2009, 09:13 PM
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It's too late...
...he already gave his S/C E55 to his 16 year old niece! 
Heres the link: https://mbworld.org/forums/w210-amg/...-kleemann.html
Heres the link: https://mbworld.org/forums/w210-amg/...-kleemann.html
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S/C & Turbos are too much stress + time + LOTS of money. Your engine with start to wear/and or blow MUCH faster, amongst other things.
Are you racing your W210 @ the track? If not, then why waste the money? Go with that list you have. Should have enough power for these streets and some track.
That's what i'ma do.
Headers, Tune, Pulley, Throttle body, Magna flow exhaust, etc. I'll be happy with high 400's.
Are you racing your W210 @ the track? If not, then why waste the money? Go with that list you have. Should have enough power for these streets and some track.
That's what i'ma do.
Headers, Tune, Pulley, Throttle body, Magna flow exhaust, etc. I'll be happy with high 400's.
05-25-2009, 09:54 PM
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W210 E55, Custom Turbocharged
I finally took the plunge and turbocharged my E55
she has a tendency to go faster now too...
Garret GT4294R dual ball bearing... and even at a "mere" 4psi it's putting down approximately 80+ HP and 100+TQ SAE corrected at the wheels. Obviously it is a work in progress but very healthy so far.
doesn't seem to want to post links to photos or albums...PM if interested
she has a tendency to go faster now too...Garret GT4294R dual ball bearing... and even at a "mere" 4psi it's putting down approximately 80+ HP and 100+TQ SAE corrected at the wheels. Obviously it is a work in progress but very healthy so far.
doesn't seem to want to post links to photos or albums...PM if interested
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I keep trying to post photos but it wouldn't let me....
I created an album though here on MBWorld that has some of the development photos.
Any help with the tech side of posting photos or even a simple website of the build that showed it all.. I have over 150 pics and many dyno run vids .....but they are huge and show the run but not the screen of the output clearly..
I can say that at a mere 4 psi, she produces over 380+hp and 400+Tq.
Those numbers are all from the same Dynojet dyno using SAE correction.
baseline runs were healthy. I only have 19k miles on the car total so far as she is not daily driven.
If people are interested, PM me and help me figure out how to share this project online. Otherwise.....until I see you.
Looking forward to Drag night at Infineon Raceway as well as many trackdays.
Brakes: The new 6 Piston Silver caliper fronts and 4 calliper rears are here....
can't wait to get those on underneath the HRE's..19x8.5 amd 19x10 currently...
I created an album though here on MBWorld that has some of the development photos.
Any help with the tech side of posting photos or even a simple website of the build that showed it all.. I have over 150 pics and many dyno run vids .....but they are huge and show the run but not the screen of the output clearly..
I can say that at a mere 4 psi, she produces over 380+hp and 400+Tq.
Those numbers are all from the same Dynojet dyno using SAE correction.
baseline runs were healthy. I only have 19k miles on the car total so far as she is not daily driven.
If people are interested, PM me and help me figure out how to share this project online. Otherwise.....until I see you.
Looking forward to Drag night at Infineon Raceway as well as many trackdays.
Brakes: The new 6 Piston Silver caliper fronts and 4 calliper rears are here....
can't wait to get those on underneath the HRE's..19x8.5 amd 19x10 currently...
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05-26-2009, 02:51 PM
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You can add albums/vids on photobucket.com and then link them here.
I am more interested in what was involved to make it work. Did you just slap on a turbo kit and run low boost? How did you address fueling/tuning? What size turbo? Pricing? Etc etc
I am more interested in what was involved to make it work. Did you just slap on a turbo kit and run low boost? How did you address fueling/tuning? What size turbo? Pricing? Etc etc
05-26-2009, 03:49 PM
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Like you sir, I prefer to DO IT rather than talk about it...
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thanks so much. 
And here is a link to my photobucket album
Hopefully that will help others view some of the hard work that has gone into turbocharging the E55
And here is a link to my photobucket album
Hopefully that will help others view some of the hard work that has gone into turbocharging the E55
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Can't wait to see more of this STS car. I've read so much up and down about the STS system. It will be great to see what it dose on these cars.
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no worries.. I agree. I just love the potential of these motors. I'm very low 400's btw
.. all that and 2mpg better fuel economy ...unless I get seduced by the pedal...
We shall see how the new Quaife TLS fairs at getting both of the Michelin's to hook up and launch properly..... and the sound is.....mmmmm.....very seductive since it is essentially an open pipe system with a single hi flow race cat and the exhaust turbine between headers and exhaust tip.
.. all that and 2mpg better fuel economy ...unless I get seduced by the pedal...We shall see how the new Quaife TLS fairs at getting both of the Michelin's to hook up and launch properly..... and the sound is.....mmmmm.....very seductive since it is essentially an open pipe system with a single hi flow race cat and the exhaust turbine between headers and exhaust tip.
