E55 with Speedshift, Paddles, M Mode and other Mods
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W109 300SEL6.3, W123 280TE, W123 200T, W210 E55
Mine was coded to 210074 with option 030 AMG Variant in the first box, the other two boxes are blank. The actual is coded to 211076 with option 030.
greetings, Fabian
greetings, Fabian
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'00 Mercedes 430/55 clk cabriolet
Update, the Tech put in all codes and in the 1st box put 030, but the car still won't start! 
In vehicle box at the top, does he have to put CLK 430? What code is that? The tech put 210.074.
Model destination I take it is 210074, then 030 in the 2nd box leaving the last 2 boxes blank?
In vehicle box at the top, does he have to put CLK 430? What code is that? The tech put 210.074.
Model destination I take it is 210074, then 030 in the 2nd box leaving the last 2 boxes blank?
Last edited by Pauljay; Oct 10, 2013 at 11:57 AM.
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W109 300SEL6.3, W123 280TE, W123 200T, W210 E55
i lost track a little bit here ...
what car do you have? what egs do you code? acording to the screens you have a W210 E55 and try to code a W208 Transmission Code???? why?
greetings, Fabian
what car do you have? what egs do you code? acording to the screens you have a W210 E55 and try to code a W208 Transmission Code???? why?
greetings, Fabian
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From: A.D., U.A.E
2000 (W202 C200) & 2000 (W202 C55)
Fabian,
i bought an used V/B "3" months ago, from (2003 W220 S55K), #: "140 270 06 06",
i changed all "6" solenoids, and all shift springs,
im planning to install it soon, but not sure what kind of adapt,,
that ETC needs to elaborate a new version of that V/B.....?!?
ZAYED,,
i bought an used V/B "3" months ago, from (2003 W220 S55K), #: "140 270 06 06",
i changed all "6" solenoids, and all shift springs,
im planning to install it soon, but not sure what kind of adapt,,
that ETC needs to elaborate a new version of that V/B.....?!?
ZAYED,,
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99 c43
Update, the Tech put in all codes and in the 1st box put 030, but the car still won't start!
In vehicle box at the top, does he have to put CLK 430? What code is that? The tech put 210.074.
Model destination I take it is 210074, then 030 in the 2nd box leaving the last 2 boxes blank?
In vehicle box at the top, does he have to put CLK 430? What code is that? The tech put 210.074.
Model destination I take it is 210074, then 030 in the 2nd box leaving the last 2 boxes blank?
Email me sickc43owner@yahoo.com
I'll send wiring schematic
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'00 Mercedes 430/55 clk cabriolet
Fabian, I have a CLK430 with a CLK55 engine conversion, I kept my 430 transmission. I installed 0305452332 Egs52.
My Tech wants to know what to put in each box?
My Tech wants to know what to put in each box?
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'00 Mercedes 430/55 clk cabriolet
Hi thanks Sickc43owner,
My EGS52 TCU is supposedly for a CLK.
I checked with the EPC and the Mecedes parts guy confirmed that it was for a later year model of CLK, so I'm thinking I won't need to change any lines?
I'll email you if I need the schematics!
My EGS52 TCU is supposedly for a CLK.
I checked with the EPC and the Mecedes parts guy confirmed that it was for a later year model of CLK, so I'm thinking I won't need to change any lines?
I'll email you if I need the schematics!
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W109 300SEL6.3, W123 280TE, W123 200T, W210 E55
im curious , have you tried swapping the can lines to match the wiring diagrams positions in the 211 module , they are completely different.
Email me sickc43owner@yahoo.com
I'll send wiring schematic
Email me sickc43owner@yahoo.com
I'll send wiring schematic
He also trys to get an EGS52 to work with his ME2.0 ... and the engine wont start.
If the can lines are twisted this could be the source of the problem. What values do your egs show? the one from ali shows the engine speed 750rpm ... but engine isnt running :/
greetings, Fabian
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Diesel Engines has a different ECU set-up than our Gasoline’s, but it has the same ETC/EGS, program theory,
if your friend can match the EGS52 with his Diesel Engine ECU,,
i believe it can be done with our ME2.0 data/file.....!!
ZAYED,,
if your friend can match the EGS52 with his Diesel Engine ECU,,
i believe it can be done with our ME2.0 data/file.....!!
ZAYED,,
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While he got E250TD, he supposed to have 3.45 diff., isn’t..?,
if so, this ratio should to be coded with his MSG/ECU data in the EGS52,
is the EGS52 can be coded in the 3.45.1 end...??
ZAYED,,
if so, this ratio should to be coded with his MSG/ECU data in the EGS52,
is the EGS52 can be coded in the 3.45.1 end...??
ZAYED,,
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C43 w/clk55 Organs
Fabian,
I have purchased a 06/2000 CLK55 ME2.8 complete car to transfer into my 99 C43 ME2.0.
I plan to transfer ME2.8 ECU,TCU,EIS ,larger 208 axles/flanges,208 rear subframe,220 2.82 Diff,Prop shaft, 722.636 trans,5.4 engine,touch shifter and cluster/steering wheel. The transmission harness and some other parts of the harness are identicle to the tiptronic W202 which should help alot,I'm assuming I will need a large part of the harness for the ME2.8 conversion.
I see the CLK55 ESP module and "turn rate"/ "Acceleration" sensors will need to be changed over,the wheel speed sensors are the same though.
By the looks I may also need to change the SAM?
Could you please tell me exactly which modules you had to replace to make ME2.8 compatible with the whole car?
I have MB star with developer also.
Cheers,
Paul
I have purchased a 06/2000 CLK55 ME2.8 complete car to transfer into my 99 C43 ME2.0.
I plan to transfer ME2.8 ECU,TCU,EIS ,larger 208 axles/flanges,208 rear subframe,220 2.82 Diff,Prop shaft, 722.636 trans,5.4 engine,touch shifter and cluster/steering wheel. The transmission harness and some other parts of the harness are identicle to the tiptronic W202 which should help alot,I'm assuming I will need a large part of the harness for the ME2.8 conversion.
I see the CLK55 ESP module and "turn rate"/ "Acceleration" sensors will need to be changed over,the wheel speed sensors are the same though.
By the looks I may also need to change the SAM?
Could you please tell me exactly which modules you had to replace to make ME2.8 compatible with the whole car?
I have MB star with developer also.
Cheers,
Paul
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W109 300SEL6.3, W123 280TE, W123 200T, W210 E55
Hi Paul,
I changed:
- Engine
- ECU, Steeringwheel lock and keylock
- Transmission
- Cardan shaft
- Diff
- O² Sensors - Values are the same but the ME2.8 uses another sensor heating so the O² Sensors from the ME2.0 will be marked as defect in the ME2.8
- Radiator, but i think this should be no problem for you because of a AMG Engine allready is in your car.
- ESP/BAS/PML Control Unit to work with the ME2.8
- Gyro Sensor and ABS Sensor on the ABS Hydraulic Block to work with the new ESP/BAS/PML Control Unit
- Fresh Air intake in the hood to fit the AMG Airbox on the Engine, also this should be no problem as you allready have a AMG Airbox
- Fuel and Vacuum lines to fit the AMG Airbox ... same here, should be no prob for you.
- Brakes
hmn ... it think thats it
greetings, Fabian
I changed:
- Engine
- ECU, Steeringwheel lock and keylock
- Transmission
- Cardan shaft
- Diff
- O² Sensors - Values are the same but the ME2.8 uses another sensor heating so the O² Sensors from the ME2.0 will be marked as defect in the ME2.8
- Radiator, but i think this should be no problem for you because of a AMG Engine allready is in your car.
- ESP/BAS/PML Control Unit to work with the ME2.8
- Gyro Sensor and ABS Sensor on the ABS Hydraulic Block to work with the new ESP/BAS/PML Control Unit
- Fresh Air intake in the hood to fit the AMG Airbox on the Engine, also this should be no problem as you allready have a AMG Airbox
- Fuel and Vacuum lines to fit the AMG Airbox ... same here, should be no prob for you.
- Brakes
hmn ... it think thats it
greetings, Fabian
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C43 w/clk55 Organs
Hello Fabian,
Thank you! I am really glad I have a complete donor car for this...
I didnt realise the ABS pump sensors were different!,I will change these also.
The newer O2 sensors must be 5 wire?,if so did the harness require changing as well?
Also, was there any need to change the signal acquisition module?(SAM) It appears they update this module in tiptronic W208/210!
Regards,
Paul
Thank you!
I am really glad I have a complete donor car for this...I didnt realise the ABS pump sensors were different!,I will change these also.
The newer O2 sensors must be 5 wire?,if so did the harness require changing as well?
Also, was there any need to change the signal acquisition module?(SAM) It appears they update this module in tiptronic W208/210!
Regards,
Paul
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Jep ... a complete car is a must have
It is only the Preasure Sensor on the Hydraulicblock ... connector is the same, fits right in, no harness modification needed.
The Girosensor had another connector so i soldered the new connector on the harness as well. the new sensor had 1 wire more then the old ... but i couldnt find out what this wire stands for so i didnt connect it at all ... no errors so far and the giro sensor is working correctly. i think the aditional wire is connected to the me2.8 ... maybe for emergency shutdown in case of an impact or something like that ... dont know.
The new engine comes with the correct harness so you have the change the car side harness for the me2.8 ... there are a lot of cables wich need to be resoldered to the new connectors. it took me 2 days to do this.
The O² sensors are 1:1 the same ... except the heating for the sensor, you can change them 1:1... connectors are the same ... both have 4 wires. 2 for the sensor and 2 for the heating.
greetings, Fabian
It is only the Preasure Sensor on the Hydraulicblock ... connector is the same, fits right in, no harness modification needed.
The Girosensor had another connector so i soldered the new connector on the harness as well. the new sensor had 1 wire more then the old ... but i couldnt find out what this wire stands for so i didnt connect it at all ... no errors so far and the giro sensor is working correctly. i think the aditional wire is connected to the me2.8 ... maybe for emergency shutdown in case of an impact or something like that ... dont know.
The new engine comes with the correct harness so you have the change the car side harness for the me2.8 ... there are a lot of cables wich need to be resoldered to the new connectors. it took me 2 days to do this.
The O² sensors are 1:1 the same ... except the heating for the sensor, you can change them 1:1... connectors are the same ... both have 4 wires. 2 for the sensor and 2 for the heating.
greetings, Fabian
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C43 w/clk55 Organs
Fabian,
Great info thanks!
Rather than soldering all the car side engine harness did you consider changing the harness over from ME2.8 E55?
I'm still puzzeled as to why SAM was updated with ME2.8, maybe ME2.8 uses additional signal and information not coded in the ME2.0
Regards,
Paul
Great info thanks!
Rather than soldering all the car side engine harness did you consider changing the harness over from ME2.8 E55?
I'm still puzzeled as to why SAM was updated with ME2.8, maybe ME2.8 uses additional signal and information not coded in the ME2.0
Regards,
Paul
