E55 with Speedshift, Paddles, M Mode and other Mods
#552
Senior Member
Thread Starter
yeah ... but i got kind of lazy about youtube and posting online ... maybe i find the time to record some new stuff this summer :-)
but besides that there where not much updated on the car...
New Air intake...
And new Cluster :-)
greetings, Fabian
but besides that there where not much updated on the car...
New Air intake...
And new Cluster :-)
greetings, Fabian
#553
Newbie
Those are some nice intakes and clusters. After all these years with tuning and modifications is there anything else you wanna do with it? Are you done or is it more to come?
#556
Super Member
Hello Fabian! ,
This thing just keeps looking better every time!!
Please, Can you tell me the difference in the sump from your M113 W210 4.3 to M113k S55? , I noticed you modified the subframe to suit?
Looking at EPC I thought both had same sump!?, EPC also suggests s55k is the same sump for C43/CLK55 208 (but not for everything else 203/209/211 etc)
Cheers,
Paul
This thing just keeps looking better every time!!
Please, Can you tell me the difference in the sump from your M113 W210 4.3 to M113k S55? , I noticed you modified the subframe to suit?
Looking at EPC I thought both had same sump!?, EPC also suggests s55k is the same sump for C43/CLK55 208 (but not for everything else 203/209/211 etc)
Cheers,
Paul
#557
Senior Member
Thread Starter
The lower Oilpan is the same, to upper one is different, as i wanted to use the M113 S/C Oilpump i was not able to change the oilpans as the M113 S/C Oilpump wont fit the M113 N/A Oilpan.
greetings :-)
greetings :-)
#558
Super Member
Thanks Fabian, So the M113K upper oil pan pushes the lower pan forwards compared to your original M113?
I was hoping the S55/CLS55 M113k was close to drop in for the W202/208/210, but if the lower pan moves forwards it will conflict with the sway bar on 202/208!
Cheers
I was hoping the S55/CLS55 M113k was close to drop in for the W202/208/210, but if the lower pan moves forwards it will conflict with the sway bar on 202/208!
Cheers
#560
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cool thread, reminds me a bit of my w215. i did a 500 to 55 n/a swap years back, this past year i installed a trunk mounted turbo. ironically i did 390mm rotors and yellow calipers on my car as well, even yellow valve covers too! i was young and impatient when i did the swap, and messed up my 722.633 that came with my car and upgraded to a 722.636 from an 01 e55
some interesting things i noticed in this thread, people who did a 4.3 to 5.5 ecu map claimed to have lost power? that maybe so, but in my 500 to 55 swap i only gained power when i got the "correct" tuning. i didn't do any dyno runs, but the car was undeniably stronger and seemed to have gained throttle response
another interesting point about 2.8 ME cars with S/W driving modes only, i had a company do a TCU tune for my car and in the process of removing rev limiters etc, they also implemented a "M" mode on my car, which was a pleasant surprise. it gives you a bit more control over what the transmission does.
regarding 722.6xx slow shifting, i found a video on youtube regarding drilling out an orifice on the valve body gasket, to allow the pressure to change more rapidly during 2-3 and 3-4 shifts (if i remember correctly), and since i did the modification the car definitely shifts quickly around 3rd gear. i believe with some experimentation/expertise, this can be implemented into more gear shifts than just 3rd gear...
some interesting things i noticed in this thread, people who did a 4.3 to 5.5 ecu map claimed to have lost power? that maybe so, but in my 500 to 55 swap i only gained power when i got the "correct" tuning. i didn't do any dyno runs, but the car was undeniably stronger and seemed to have gained throttle response
another interesting point about 2.8 ME cars with S/W driving modes only, i had a company do a TCU tune for my car and in the process of removing rev limiters etc, they also implemented a "M" mode on my car, which was a pleasant surprise. it gives you a bit more control over what the transmission does.
regarding 722.6xx slow shifting, i found a video on youtube regarding drilling out an orifice on the valve body gasket, to allow the pressure to change more rapidly during 2-3 and 3-4 shifts (if i remember correctly), and since i did the modification the car definitely shifts quickly around 3rd gear. i believe with some experimentation/expertise, this can be implemented into more gear shifts than just 3rd gear...
#561
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Thread Starter
Yeah ... i did that 3-4 flare mod already and have quiete som experience with TCU tunes ... anything you wrote is correct in my opinion. Cant talk about powergains with 500ECU as i switched from ME2.0 E430 to ME2.8 E55 to ME2.8.1 E55 S/C
greetings, Fabian
greetings, Fabian
#562
Member
cool thread, reminds me a bit of my w215. i did a 500 to 55 n/a swap years back, this past year i installed a trunk mounted turbo. ironically i did 390mm rotors and yellow calipers on my car as well, even yellow valve covers too! i was young and impatient when i did the swap, and messed up my 722.633 that came with my car and upgraded to a 722.636 from an 01 e55
some interesting things i noticed in this thread, people who did a 4.3 to 5.5 ecu map claimed to have lost power? that maybe so, but in my 500 to 55 swap i only gained power when i got the "correct" tuning. i didn't do any dyno runs, but the car was undeniably stronger and seemed to have gained throttle response
another interesting point about 2.8 ME cars with S/W driving modes only, i had a company do a TCU tune for my car and in the process of removing rev limiters etc, they also implemented a "M" mode on my car, which was a pleasant surprise. it gives you a bit more control over what the transmission does.
regarding 722.6xx slow shifting, i found a video on youtube regarding drilling out an orifice on the valve body gasket, to allow the pressure to change more rapidly during 2-3 and 3-4 shifts (if i remember correctly), and since i did the modification the car definitely shifts quickly around 3rd gear. i believe with some experimentation/expertise, this can be implemented into more gear shifts than just 3rd gear...
some interesting things i noticed in this thread, people who did a 4.3 to 5.5 ecu map claimed to have lost power? that maybe so, but in my 500 to 55 swap i only gained power when i got the "correct" tuning. i didn't do any dyno runs, but the car was undeniably stronger and seemed to have gained throttle response
another interesting point about 2.8 ME cars with S/W driving modes only, i had a company do a TCU tune for my car and in the process of removing rev limiters etc, they also implemented a "M" mode on my car, which was a pleasant surprise. it gives you a bit more control over what the transmission does.
regarding 722.6xx slow shifting, i found a video on youtube regarding drilling out an orifice on the valve body gasket, to allow the pressure to change more rapidly during 2-3 and 3-4 shifts (if i remember correctly), and since i did the modification the car definitely shifts quickly around 3rd gear. i believe with some experimentation/expertise, this can be implemented into more gear shifts than just 3rd gear...
#563
Thanks
i just had a little time to get some photos for an update ready.
Here you go ...
in the middle of the year i scraped down a CL600 with M137 and used the Engine for a nice table in my garage:
After that i decided to get rid of the 2 CWA50 Pumps and use CWA100 instead. They are much more powerful.
a first test was around 22L/min. ... with 3 Radiators. Original Cooling has 1 Radiator and around 11L/min.
Next step was to get rid of some brakingparts i stored for my recent brakeconversion to 390mm brakes... i had quiete a few AMG Brakeparts
Then came what must come ... my kleemann headers had some "problems".
i welded them and Claus from Kleemann replaced the right one. But i must say ... i wasnt happy with kleemann headers so i started to search for another set.
to be continued...
i just had a little time to get some photos for an update ready.
Here you go ...
in the middle of the year i scraped down a CL600 with M137 and used the Engine for a nice table in my garage:
After that i decided to get rid of the 2 CWA50 Pumps and use CWA100 instead. They are much more powerful.
a first test was around 22L/min. ... with 3 Radiators. Original Cooling has 1 Radiator and around 11L/min.
Next step was to get rid of some brakingparts i stored for my recent brakeconversion to 390mm brakes... i had quiete a few AMG Brakeparts
Then came what must come ... my kleemann headers had some "problems".
i welded them and Claus from Kleemann replaced the right one. But i must say ... i wasnt happy with kleemann headers so i started to search for another set.
to be continued...
#564
MBWorld Fanatic!
This is good info on the valve body mod. The reason why they lost power on the 43 to 55 swap is due to the lower rev limit of 55 cars. E55s redline at 6000 vs. 6300 on 43 cars. I only know because I moved the redline on my 55 up to 6300 to accommodate my diff ratio swap to 3.06.
on the 2000-2002 amg 55 n/a cars I believed I noticed instead of a “redline” it was whited out on the instrument cluster. Which made me believe the amgs of that era didn’t have so much of a redline, or that it was rather 7k rpm, where the tach stops reading
but it makes sense because I have some n/a cl55 tunes I tried on my car and my biggest complaint was the apparent redline at 6k rpm instead of 6200 or 6300 as you mention . I never knew that was intended. Good info
#565
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Thread Starter
I used CLK63 hats with SL65 Rotors
Calipers are SL65 Stock with 1mm Chims to fit the offset perfectly but i think it also would be no problem without chims.
greetings, Fabian
Calipers are SL65 Stock with 1mm Chims to fit the offset perfectly but i think it also would be no problem without chims.
greetings, Fabian
#566
#568
Nice, so excited. I will do that soon. Maybe. Just got my rear cl55 4 pot calipers today. Going to fun slk55 rear rotors. Also stainless limes coming tomorrow. I think we have a used set of rotors here.
and this is clk63 base rotors correct, not clk black series?
#569
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Thread Starter
CLK63 ... i had 6-pot CLK63 (360x32mm) before i switched to 8-pot SL65 (390x36mm) ... i think there are plenty of pictures earlyer this thread :-)