Fake M5 slips....
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If we REALLY want to know who did this, it's not too much trouble to find out.... from time to time, I do some forensic log anaysis with regards to network and website security....
I have the IP address of the person who submitted the record to dragtimes.com, and have compared it against logs coming to the site and viewing images from m5board.com and mbworld.org...
there are MANY more log records to look at, but this is a summary.. I'm going to block out the IP to keep anyone from trying to hack this persons computer... but trust me, it's same IP...
this is the computer viewing that supra record yesterday:
65.34.xxx.xx - - [26/Nov/2005:13:56:43 -0500] "GET /1994-Toyota-Supra-Pictures-462.html HTTP/1.1" 200 10489 "http://www.dragtimes.com/Toyota-Supra-Timeslip-462.html" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
this is the same computer viewing the original timeslip image directly from the m5board website:
65.34.xxx.xx - - [26/Nov/2005:18:10:30 -0500] "GET /images/m5E60time.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 22471 "http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62778" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
this is the same computer viewing the same image from the m5board website today:
65.34.xxx.xx - - [27/Nov/2005:13:00:01 -0500] "GET /images/m5E60time.jpg HTTP/1.1" 304 - "http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62778" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
this is the same computer viewing the image from the mbworld.org site today:
65.34.xxx.xx - - [27/Nov/2005:12:30:11 -0500] "GET /images/m5E60time.jpg HTTP/1.1" 304 - "https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127998" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
so it's pretty clear that the person who submitted the record to dragtimes is following this unfolding on both sites.... probably laughing it up that we are picking it apart...
I personally don't think we need to "out" anyone..... but there is only one more step needed to find out who it was.... and I don't have control over the last step.... we KNOW the person is watching, just tell us you were "just kidding" already... E55 owner, M5 owner, or whatever owner....
I have the IP address of the person who submitted the record to dragtimes.com, and have compared it against logs coming to the site and viewing images from m5board.com and mbworld.org...
there are MANY more log records to look at, but this is a summary.. I'm going to block out the IP to keep anyone from trying to hack this persons computer... but trust me, it's same IP...
this is the computer viewing that supra record yesterday:
65.34.xxx.xx - - [26/Nov/2005:13:56:43 -0500] "GET /1994-Toyota-Supra-Pictures-462.html HTTP/1.1" 200 10489 "http://www.dragtimes.com/Toyota-Supra-Timeslip-462.html" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
this is the same computer viewing the original timeslip image directly from the m5board website:
65.34.xxx.xx - - [26/Nov/2005:18:10:30 -0500] "GET /images/m5E60time.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 22471 "http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62778" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
this is the same computer viewing the same image from the m5board website today:
65.34.xxx.xx - - [27/Nov/2005:13:00:01 -0500] "GET /images/m5E60time.jpg HTTP/1.1" 304 - "http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62778" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
this is the same computer viewing the image from the mbworld.org site today:
65.34.xxx.xx - - [27/Nov/2005:12:30:11 -0500] "GET /images/m5E60time.jpg HTTP/1.1" 304 - "https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127998" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
so it's pretty clear that the person who submitted the record to dragtimes is following this unfolding on both sites.... probably laughing it up that we are picking it apart...
I personally don't think we need to "out" anyone..... but there is only one more step needed to find out who it was.... and I don't have control over the last step.... we KNOW the person is watching, just tell us you were "just kidding" already... E55 owner, M5 owner, or whatever owner....
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Gustav over at m5board.com closed the "Another M5 1/4 mile time" thread, and deleted the thread altogether that show the details of how it was fake....
protecting their own, eh?
protecting their own, eh?
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It is funny that the thread in m5board.com regarding to the discussion of the fake 1/4 mile run has already been locked.
Mod that locked the thread does not want any bad publicity and discussion of the new m5
Meanwhile i think the ip block belongs to comcast florida.
it may also be road runner business ip block, but my guess is comcast florida.
Mod that locked the thread does not want any bad publicity and discussion of the new m5
Meanwhile i think the ip block belongs to comcast florida.
it may also be road runner business ip block, but my guess is comcast florida.
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Originally Posted by zumbalak
It is funny that the thread in m5board.com regarding to the discussion of the fake 1/4 mile run has already been locked.
Mod that locked the thread does not want any bad publicity and discussion of the new m5
Meanwhile i think the ip block belongs to comcast florida.
it may also be road runner business ip block, but my guess is comcast florida.
Mod that locked the thread does not want any bad publicity and discussion of the new m5
Meanwhile i think the ip block belongs to comcast florida.
it may also be road runner business ip block, but my guess is comcast florida.
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Last edited by jordan; 11-27-2005 at 03:23 PM.
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Originally Posted by jordan
I am not so sure it was a M5 person. I would say it is somone that wanted to stir up the pot and doesn't even own an M5. Lets let this go, so the pot isn't stired up to give the guy a laugh that we are still talking about his 20 hours in doctoring the slip. POST CLOSED...
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Good decective work by the way
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Originally Posted by Fikse
Gustav over at m5board.com closed the "Another M5 1/4 mile time" thread, and deleted the thread altogether that show the details of how it was fake....
protecting their own, eh?
protecting their own, eh?
I'll say it again---what a fkn d ush bag that dude is.
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Originally Posted by Vic55
Absolutely no generalizations were made nor should be inferred, thats why I said "someone" instead of maybe "those guys". I didn't mention anything about M5 owners. I was just saying how sad it was that somebody did it.
Vic - cool. I didn't mean to single you out as having said anything specific.
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Originally Posted by Erik
Agree with you. This is probably why it was closed on the M5 board. No need to give the idiot that did this any more attention.
Good decective work by the way
Good decective work by the way
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Originally Posted by jordan
Guys I think this is comming from my end, it's a Road Runner IP. I have made a few calls but the joke "not funny" was on me. Lets leave it at that, as I am not a happy person right now. That slip was fake, and I know who. As this has put a wrench into a family matter, lets leave this alone! I agree with my wife as our home is not a Frat house anymore as of today. Trust me..people with $100,000 cars don't do this crap.
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" lets leave this alone!"------------- How about if you leave us all alone here at MBworld and get the fk out of here.
you FAKED the slip , you acused e55baller and now you come back with your wife, frat house , "wrench into a family matter" crap and tell everyone to "lets leave this alone!"?? Who the fk are you? Get the fk out of here and go sort out your "family issues", dufus.
Stop posting and go deal with the real issues at hand ya fkn piece of sh it.
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ALPINA B12 5,7 Coupe #22/57
Originally Posted by enzom
But why close it? I don't understand. Does it suit everybody on M5board well that its moderator just erases whatever he pleases?
I would not had problems with the post beeing open, but personally I will not miss it.
Even before the fake was called it was some question made about the legitimity of the post.
I personally found it reasonably, since it was imformed that the track it was run at, had normally problems with the 1/8 timing, and the time of 12,35 sec to 119 mph matches the times from Euro mags of mid 13sec to 125 mph.
I have not the skills to judge the 60`times with the 1/4 time.
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Originally Posted by 18bora
Last edited by Rock; 11-27-2005 at 06:08 PM.
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I faked nothing as I am an adult, but came from someone I know. I am not like that at all...look at all of my past posts you can tell what kind of person I am. "I" did not have control over it, so relax. I am the 1 that came up to you all and told what I knew. I come to these forums to talk about nice cars and learn about what I don't know. You can ease your name calling, it does nothing but remind us of young ones. Somthing smelled fishey due to the email that post came from and that is why I help sort it out.
I faked nothing as I am an adult, but came from someone I know. I am not like that at all...look at all of my past posts you can tell what kind of person I am. "I" did not have control over it, so relax. I am the 1 that came up to you all and told what I knew. I come to these forums to talk about nice cars and learn about what I don't know. You can ease your name calling, it does nothing but remind us of young ones. Somthing smelled fishey due to the email that post came from and that is why I help sort it out.
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Originally Posted by 18bora
M5s are not slow, if you watch the vid, it takes the 360 up top = high trap speed
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[QUOTE=jordan]
I faked nothing as I am an adult, but came from someone I know. I am not like that at all...look at all of my past posts you can tell what kind of person I am. "I" did not have control over it, so relax. I am the 1 that came up to you all and told what I knew. I come to these forums to talk about nice cars and learn about what I don't know. You can ease your name calling, it does nothing but remind us of young ones. Somthing smelled fishey due to the email that post came from and that is why I help sort it out.
Jordan - What happened?
Originally Posted by BelmondoQUOTE
I faked nothing as I am an adult, but came from someone I know. I am not like that at all...look at all of my past posts you can tell what kind of person I am. "I" did not have control over it, so relax. I am the 1 that came up to you all and told what I knew. I come to these forums to talk about nice cars and learn about what I don't know. You can ease your name calling, it does nothing but remind us of young ones. Somthing smelled fishey due to the email that post came from and that is why I help sort it out.
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E-drama at it's finest. This is a funny one. It might has lastest longer if Jordan/M5Floyd's relative on his computer without his knowing but obviously in the whole M5/E55 debate had used a better 60' time.
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Originally Posted by RezF
Good question, and I'm still waiting for a reasonable answer
At the end I don't think MB or BM made these cars for the drag strip.
#46
Originally Posted by 18bora
I think you guys are making a big deal out of nothing, fake or not M5s are fast, same goes for E55s, who cares if one 0.0001 faster than the other, good driving skills will win.
At the end I don't think MB or BM made these cars for the drag strip.
At the end I don't think MB or BM made these cars for the drag strip.
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It seems as if a lot of people are worried that the M5 isnt going to do much better on the strip than we have seen if they are resorting to tactics like this.
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Originally Posted by 18bora
I think you guys are making a big deal out of nothing, fake or not M5s are fast, same goes for E55s, who cares if one 0.0001 faster than the other, good driving skills will win.
At the end I don't think MB or BM made these cars for the drag strip.
At the end I don't think MB or BM made these cars for the drag strip.
If you don't think that particular aspect is important then don't partake in this discussion, but it is rather shallow-minded to be critical of others for having a very amiable conversation about one aspect of two cars and how they compare.
This has to be one of the more mature discussions on the net for a subject that many are passionate about, let it flow.
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[QUOTE=jordan]
I faked nothing as I am an adult, but came from someone I know. I am not like that at all...
I think you FAKED the slip and posted it from your house. When "FAKE" was discovered and Fiske posted partial IP address and said he knew who it was --you **** your pants and started running around with riddles like "its not me but its some one I know" "its came from my end" but "i'm not like that", than there was something compleetly unrelated about your wife, your family , frat house and so on.
Looks to me like you are in Shock and Awe after how quickly you were discovered and still can't put one sentence together to explain.
Shock and Awe, dufus, Shock and Awe.
Originally Posted by BelmondoQUOTE
I faked nothing as I am an adult, but came from someone I know. I am not like that at all...
I think you FAKED the slip and posted it from your house. When "FAKE" was discovered and Fiske posted partial IP address and said he knew who it was --you **** your pants and started running around with riddles like "its not me but its some one I know" "its came from my end" but "i'm not like that", than there was something compleetly unrelated about your wife, your family , frat house and so on.
Looks to me like you are in Shock and Awe after how quickly you were discovered and still can't put one sentence together to explain.
Shock and Awe, dufus, Shock and Awe.