What's the widest drag tire I can put on a 17x8 rim?
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What's the widest drag tire I can put on a 17x8 rim?
I have a set of E430 sport wheels 17x8. I'm using two for rear drags tires. My first question is how wide can I go, maybe a 265 or 275. Also what is the best drag tire I can get and how much? I will be using these only for the track not cruising around town.
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MT has 2 possibilities - a 26x11.5x17 ET Street or a 275/40 17 ET Street Radial. My guess is that you could spoon either tire on an 8" wheel. Theoretically, the ET Street would hook better, but I've heard great things about their new ET Street Radial. And with the radial, you won't have to worry about goofy handling at the big end of the track with a bias ply out back and radials up front.
Might want to call and talk to either MT or Summit and ask if an 8" wheel is wide enough. They spec a 9" on their website.
Nitto and BFG also make 275/40 17 drag radials.
Might want to call and talk to either MT or Summit and ask if an 8" wheel is wide enough. They spec a 9" on their website.
Nitto and BFG also make 275/40 17 drag radials.
Last edited by WayneE; Dec 12, 2005 at 10:32 PM. Reason: Added info for Nitto/BFG.
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Originally Posted by WayneE
MT has 2 possibilities - a 26x11.5x17 ET Street or a 275/40 17 ET Street Radial. My guess is that you could spoon either tire on an 8" wheel. Theoretically, the ET Street would hook better, but I've heard great things about their new ET Street Radial. And with the radial, you won't have to worry about goofy handling at the big end of the track with a bias ply out back and radials up front.
Might want to call and talk to either MT or Summit and ask if an 8" wheel is wide enough. They spec a 9" on their website.
Nitto and BFG also make 275/40 17 drag radials.
Might want to call and talk to either MT or Summit and ask if an 8" wheel is wide enough. They spec a 9" on their website.
Nitto and BFG also make 275/40 17 drag radials.
Originally Posted by WayneE
MT has 2 possibilities - a 26x11.5x17 ET Street or a 275/40 17 ET Street Radial. My guess is that you could spoon either tire on an 8" wheel. Theoretically, the ET Street would hook better, but I've heard great things about their new ET Street Radial. And with the radial, you won't have to worry about goofy handling at the big end of the track with a bias ply out back and radials up front.
Might want to call and talk to either MT or Summit and ask if an 8" wheel is wide enough. They spec a 9" on their website.
Nitto and BFG also make 275/40 17 drag radials.
Might want to call and talk to either MT or Summit and ask if an 8" wheel is wide enough. They spec a 9" on their website.
Nitto and BFG also make 275/40 17 drag radials.
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
I have a set of E430 sport wheels 17x8. I'm using two for rear drags tires. My first question is how wide can I go, maybe a 265 or 275. Also what is the best drag tire I can get and how much? I will be using these only for the track not cruising around town.
..........Here is a link where I discussed this before. LINK
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
I was told you can't even get a 275 on an 8.5. Minimum recommended is 9" for 275.
Can someone please clarify this?
Can someone please clarify this?
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
.........if you are talking about real drag slicks, you will be unable to run real slicks on 17 inch rims in your W210. you need a drag slick that is 26 inches tall or less otherwise you will have significant rubbbing issues in your inner wheel well. Problem is no one makes 26 inch tall drag slicks for 17 inch rims. Not even in 16 inch rims. You best bet will be ET street tires. Here is a list of MT drag slick tires. LINK
An ET Street is similar, but it's DOT approved. You should be able to get very close 60' times between the 2 tires (ET Drag/ET Street).
Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
...........I ran 265/10.5-16 MT ET street in my E55 and did experience significant handling issues at the drag strip. The rear of the car seemed to be swaying like the hips of a belly dancer. I had traction control off, so this may have contributed to the problem. I found it to be dangerous. Et street radial is probably safer but I am not sure how this is any better than a set of BFG drag radials on your stock rim. guys with Sl65's running 11.1's are simply using BFG's. I want to run real slicks so bad but my experience with Et street tire has me hessitating. So I am even more worried about running ET drag's.
You'll feel that with any tall, bias ply, drag tire. The feeling can be amplified when running a wide, low profile, radial tire up front, instead of a skinny drag tire. The sidewall on the ET Streets/Drags are really soft and when you run low pressure, they will flex, especially when you back out of the gas at the top end of the track or if you're a bit loose and trying to correct with steering inputs.
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Originally Posted by Dave OH
275 will fit on an 8" wheel no problem. I run 275/40/17 kumho v710 on an 17x8" wheel for autocross regularly without any problem. Didn't take too much effort to get it on the wheel either.
Thanks again!!!
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
That's what I wanted to hear!!! Thanks... I'll be ordering my BFG Drag Radials tomorrow in 275/40/17
Thanks again!!!
Thanks again!!!
btw- great times on your car! Glad to see that I did not steer you wrong with Kleemann
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
These tires ROCK! Had a 1.64 0-60' my first time out on these bad boys and it was cold
btw- great times on your car! Glad to see that I did not steer you wrong with Kleemann
btw- great times on your car! Glad to see that I did not steer you wrong with Kleemann
You and several others definitely steered me in the right direction with Kleemann --- the car is an absolute beast with not one single problem or suspicision. Kleemann is just flat out awesome!!! And, one can't argue with the performance. My best e.t. before the mods was a 14.1@99.8 now my best e.t. is a 11.997 @ 117 (and on it's way down with the BFG DR's) -- that's some improvement.
BTW -- another thanks to everyone who recommended the LSD... I couldn't even imagine the car without it.
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Originally Posted by WayneE
I think you'll run an 11.6x with a 1.65 60', based on your previous ET/MPH. Remember, get some heat in the tires and be aggressive with the throttle.
Good luck
Good luck
ESP off
1st gear
with other foot on brake, feather the throttle trying to build out the rpm
but to no avail, I'm never able to do it.
Can you guys explain how to do a burnout with our cars?
With these DR's will I be able to just slam on the pedal at launch or will I still have to feather it to some degree?
Thanks
Last edited by dragonAMG; Dec 14, 2005 at 10:36 AM.
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
Wayne -- that's going to be one of my problems... I don't know how to burnout. Everything I've tried it, the rpms just rev up like it's about to then they drop and nothing. This is how I'm currently attempting to do it.
ESP off
1st gear
with other foot on brake, feather the throttle trying to build out the rpm
but to no avail, I'm never able to do it.
Can you guys explain how to do a burnout with our cars?
With these DR's will I be able to just slam on the pedal at launch or will I still have to feather it to some degree?
Thanks
ESP off
1st gear
with other foot on brake, feather the throttle trying to build out the rpm
but to no avail, I'm never able to do it.
Can you guys explain how to do a burnout with our cars?
With these DR's will I be able to just slam on the pedal at launch or will I still have to feather it to some degree?
Thanks
I noticed your stock 1/4 mile was kind of slow 14.1. The E55 210 guys are running 13.3-13.8 stock and the cars are 400lbs heavier than your new C55. I wonder if something is off on your car.
BTW please let me know how you like those BFG drags and the price.
Thank you
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I posted instructions in this thread - https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....6&postcount=27
Check out the video of Spero doing his burnout - http://videos.streetfire.net/player....5-7D804D49AFBB
Check out the video of Spero doing his burnout - http://videos.streetfire.net/player....5-7D804D49AFBB
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
Your car is beautiful. Your car stock should spin the tires no problem and it should be even harder NOT to burn out now with all that Kleeman power. Most supercharged Benz's have the opposite problem as you, they can't keep the tires from spinning.
I noticed your stock 1/4 mile was kind of slow 14.1. The E55 210 guys are running 13.3-13.8 stock and the cars are 400lbs heavier than your new C55. I wonder if something is off on your car.
BTW please let me know how you like those BFG drags and the price.
Thank you
Mario
I noticed your stock 1/4 mile was kind of slow 14.1. The E55 210 guys are running 13.3-13.8 stock and the cars are 400lbs heavier than your new C55. I wonder if something is off on your car.
BTW please let me know how you like those BFG drags and the price.
Thank you
Mario
There is absolutely nothing wrong with my car. In fact, I have the fastest C55 in the states @ 11.997 on street tires. The 14.1 was stock at 107 degrees at 2,200 ft. elevation in Vegas.
Originally Posted by wayne
I posted instructions in this thread - https://mbworld.org/forums/sh...16&postcount=27
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
I think you're misunderstanding my post. If I floor it w/ my foot off the brake, it will do nothing but spin. However, when I apply the brake and try to burnout from a dead stop, the rpms won't build.
I think that a lot of people apply too much brake and not enough gas, which keeps the rears from spinning fast enough (or spinning at all), when trying to do a stationary burnout. It's easy to mat the gas and spin the tires when rolling along, it's a little more difficult to stand still and burn 'em off
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Originally Posted by WayneE
I posted instructions in this thread - https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....6&postcount=27
Check out the video of Spero doing his burnout - http://videos.streetfire.net/player....5-7D804D49AFBB
Check out the video of Spero doing his burnout - http://videos.streetfire.net/player....5-7D804D49AFBB
