W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 01:41 AM
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60-130mph times

During my Porsche days the 60-130mph time was the benchmark for performance. (elminating launch and shifts) I was wondering if anyone had timed their e55 using this benchmark.

FYI my 3.6 turbo "s" conversion ran it in 9.6 sec. My buddies Ruf 8.6 sec Other supercars from Car & Driver:
Enzo: 7.0
CGT: 7.3
F430: 9.5
F50: 9.6

When my car is finally broken in I'll post mine bone stock.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 05:11 AM
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im surprised that the f430 is faster than the f50
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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...just about everything gets faster over time in the automotive world.....
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Why is 60-130 some kind of benchmark? For people who don't know how to launch a car properly?



Also, how do you time this properly? Speedos in autos are notoriously inaccurate, especially when accelerating quickly. It's not possible to accurately time unless you're using some type of 5th-wheel or GPS based timing device.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Why is 60-130 some kind of benchmark? For people who don't know how to launch a car properly?



Also, how do you time this properly? Speedos in autos are notoriously inaccurate, especially when accelerating quickly. It's not possible to accurately time unless you're using some type of 5th-wheel or GPS based timing device.
Why is 60-130 some kind of benchmark? It eliminates driver error or inconsistencies (except for head wind, temp etc.) For people who don't know how to launch a car properly? Definitely! :p We used it to measure modifications on our cars to get a "real world" dyno. Instructions: Start in first at a slow roll and take each gear to redline. Most use video. Time the video when the speedo hits 60 and 130. I used a Automotive Performance Meter by www.race-technology.com from my racecar for measurement.

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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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This link http://supercarx.com/articles/specifications/e55.htm suggests 11.8s 60-130. The other times seem consistent
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Take a look at this video of my friend's twin turbo Gallardo. From 60 to about 145 in about 9-10 seconds.

http://videos.streetfire.net/player....9-F83751B136BE
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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This link http://supercarx.com/articles/specifications/e55.htm suggests 11.8s 60-130. The other times seem consistent
Where does it say it takes 11.8 from 60-130mph? I didn't see that test anywhere on this link? Are you coming up with that number by just subtracting the 0-60 time?
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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That is one quick lambo!!

Here is my buddies 89 930 turbo 750 hp: 60-130 in 5.5sec. www.klsales.com/porsche/video8.mpg


I would bet a stock e55 would run in the 10’s, which is pretty quick! The great thing about this measurement is the elimination of so many factors (wheel spin etc.) Just raw hp vs. wgt and aero.

Now the e55 would really shine cruzing at 60 the dropping the hammer to 130. Torque would be a great equalizer with some of the fastest cars out there.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Where does it say it takes 11.8 from 60-130mph? I didn't see that test anywhere on this link? Are you coming up with that number by just subtracting the 0-60 time?

Yes, subtracting the two.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by L8Apex
Why is 60-130 some kind of benchmark? It eliminates driver error or inconsistencies (except for head wind, temp etc.) For people who don't know how to launch a car properly? Definitely! :p We used it to measure modifications on our cars to get a "real world" dyno. Instructions: Start in first at a slow roll and take each gear to redline. Most use video. Time the video when the speedo hits 60 and 130. I used a Automotive Performance Meter by www.race-technology.com from my racecar for measurement.

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Slow roll is one thing. 60 mph is not a slow roll. What a 60 mph launch does is take a car with low-end torque, like the E55, that explodes out of the hole, and eliminate its advantage over a car that makes power in a compressed high-RPM range at the expense of torque. It also eliminates the advantages of a car that does a better job of putting the power to the pavement.

As an example, a car like the Gallardo and 911TT has the advantage of AWD. For a straight line race, the only benefit of AWD is the launch and getting the power down in first gear. If you race from 60 mph, then the only thing AWD does is add 200 plus pounds of useless weight. So if I insist on racing an AWD car in my E55 from 60 mph, it is as though I need a big guy riding shotgun just to make it a "fair" race.
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Also gearing comes into play again not helping the E55.

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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Also gearing comes into play again not helping the E55.

Rgds Steve.
The E55 is a great car out of the hole 1/4 mile and a good car the rest of the types of running. The boys at MERC are going to put the Merc 4 door back on the map of supercars, not just 1/4 mile soon.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 12:43 AM
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Well we had a chance to run my 55 today 2 times 60-130mph (in Mexico of course ). Starting at a slow roll 5-10 mph then nailed it. My passenger started the stopwatch at 60 (on the digital display) first run was 11.1 2nd was 10.8. Not to shabby. It was a tad warm down there today. If it was 20 degrees cooler it could have been quicker. It would be interesting to hear what the guys with tuned 55's run. I'm sure they would break 10 sec.

Next time I'll bring the video camera.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 03:27 AM
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i know of a guy with a protomotive 996 turbo who did 60-130 in 4.4 seconds. I cant even imagine
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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i know of a guy with a protomotive 996 turbo who did 60-130 in 4.4 seconds. I cant even imagine
Yep Alex has a very fast car. I think there is a debate on the time though, something about the AX22 calibration. Either way if it is sub 5 sec. it is amazing!!

When Chad's KA S-Car-Go 996tt gets back on the road, I have a feeling it will be quicker than Alex's Protomotive.
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some of those numbers are crazy!! can't imagine how fast that can be
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