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Old 02-09-2006, 02:41 PM
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Moroso tonight....

private track rental tonight, we'll be running from 5pm to 10pm..... come by to watch, might be one spot open if anyone else wants to race... here is the lineup:

4 E55's
2 M5's
1 CLK55
1 Corvette
1 Saleen Mustang
1 Porsche 911 Turbo S
1 Cadillac CTS-V
1 Ford F250 Turbodiesel (maybe)

weather will be in the 50's.....
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Originally Posted by Fikse
private track rental tonight, we'll be running from 5pm to 10pm..... come by to watch, might be one spot open if anyone else wants to race... here is the lineup:

4 E55's
2 M5's
1 CLK55
1 Corvette
1 Saleen Mustang
1 Porsche 911 Turbo S
1 Cadillac CTS-V
1 Ford F250 Turbodiesel (maybe)

weather will be in the 50's.....
Make sure to post the video/results

Too bad you can't make it for our drag day on 3/11
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Can't wait to see the results.
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http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=67187

Looks like all had a great time...here are the first time slips. M5's ran 12.4's at 118 all night! Still bad 2.0+ 60 footers. Thats a fast MPH.

Someone put up the VIDS!

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Originally Posted by jordan
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=67187

Looks like all had a great time...here are the first time slips. M5's ran 12.4's at 118 all night! Still bad 2.0+ 60 footers. Thats a fast ET.

Someone put up the VIDS!
118 is a strong trap speed and indicative of the high HP in the M. 12.4 is very respectable as well. Can't hate on the M!
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just got home, videos are coming! M5 with Nitrous, filters, AA chip, on 20" wheels, runs 11.581 @ 126.35 on video!

I ran a 12.07 @ 116.33 in my stock E55 on regular street tires.....
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so curios to see what your 60ft time was Fikse - awesome run by the way - dman I love these cars - the 55K engine ROCKS - no question
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thanks siswati.... we missed ya out there... here is my slip:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-7808.html


videos are encoding now....
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thanks siswati.... we missed ya out there... here is my slip:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-7808.html


videos are encoding now....
Nice 60' and ET. What were the atmospheric conditions? temp, humidity, altitude?
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thanks.... must be close to sealevel, south florida... that run was at about 64 degrees... not sure about humidity....
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here is the M5 with Nitrous slip and video.... nice work Topsupra and crew...

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-M5-Timeslip-7809.html

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Hey enzom.... we tied.... 12.071..... :

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Can't wait to see the results.
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Nice run with a stock car Fikse! That's a damn good time for bone stock. :
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Originally Posted by jordan
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=67187

Looks like all had a great time...here are the first time slips. M5's ran 12.4's at 118 all night! Still bad 2.0+ 60 footers. Thats a fast ET.

Someone put up the VIDS!

Weren't you the guy with the neighbor's kid stealing your internet service and posting fake M5 slips? Has he been brought to justice, yet?
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Hey enzom.... we tied.... 12.071..... :
Damn straight! Doesn't it bother you to be so close to 11.999? It has been haunting me ever since.
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118 is a strong trap speed and indicative of the high HP in the M. 12.4 is very respectable as well. Can't hate on the M!
Agreed. 12.4 is a great time for any sedan. The difference in a head to head race, assuming equal reaction times between Fikse and the fastest M5 would be about 65 feet at the finish.

(116 mph X 1.46667) * 0.38 = 64.65 ft.

That's about 3 1/2 cars. Pretty close.

Does anyone know if there is a delay between the time you release the lever in an M5 (using launch control) and the time the car actually starts to roll? In most cars, assuming we care about whether we beat the car next to us, we wait for the last yellow and go in anticipation of the green light. An M5 may have to be launched a bit sooner to get a decent reaction time. Just speculating here. Any ideas?
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05 ML-500 , 03 CLK5.5 AMG has left the Garage
Moroso

Hi Folks. Had a great Time & The CLK 5.5 Amg ran good Still room to improve . I had it on the dyno that morning , I'm still on the lean side of the A/R , Here's the Times

R/T .135
60' 1.908
330 5.351
1/4 ET 12.66
MPH 110.85
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heh, no kidding.... I was hotlapping the car for 10 runs after the 12.07, trying to get the elusive 11.99 run....

there was a VERY fine line between getting my old conti's to hook out of the hole, or totally spinning out.... I pretty much had to slowly get on the gas, no powerbraking at all, as the back squatted down, I hammered it....

of course, I didn't think to deep stage the car..... I always shallow stage.... If I had deep staged, that could have been 12.03..... so close! I think I can do it with a new set of PS2's......

either way, I'm very happy, my best MPH run was 12.1 @ 116.93





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Damn straight! Doesn't it bother you to be so close to 11.999? It has been haunting me ever since.
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My best run was a 12.24 @ 114.67, my best 60' was 1.83. I made 16 runs down the strip we had a great time and it was well worth it. I've decided that either my driving skills are lacking or my car is a slug. I ran very consistent 1.89 60 ft's and 12.33 @ 113.5 run after run after run. Oh did I mention I was running on brand new DR's? My car was obviously not broken in hard. I ran with the 20's on the front but so did Albert and it didn't seem to slow him down much.

The DR's are absolutely awesome! From the first run to the last they hook up perfectly no slip at all, I highly recommend them. On a stock car they completely eliminate any issues with traction, and they seem to have held up pretty well not much of a loss of tread.

The car is due for service soon so hopefully they can find something wrong with it to explain my low trap speeds, but who knows.

If the guys that were there can pm me with their email address I have videos of some of you (Fikse & PTE) and I'll email them to you, I don't have the patience for editing and posting.

Lets do it again before it gets to warm!
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Cool

I will try to get out there to see you guys tonight.
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thanks for coming out, and for the offer to run your tires.... I would put your stock front wheels/tires on the next time you go out..... be interesting if you could run with the 20s up front, then put the 18s on.... I really think it's worth 1 MPH.... if so, your best MPH would have been 115.67 which is great...

also have to consider if the diameter on your drag radials is different from the stock rear wheel/tire combo.... if so, that changes the gearing slightly, which could also account for trap speed changes....



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My best run was a 12.24 @ 114.67, my best 60' was 1.83. I made 16 runs down the strip we had a great time and it was well worth it. I've decided that either my driving skills are lacking or my car is a slug. I ran very consistent 1.89 60 ft's and 12.33 @ 113.5 run after run after run. Oh did I mention I was running on brand new DR's? My car was obviously not broken in hard. I ran with the 20's on the front but so did Albert and it didn't seem to slow him down much.
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I'd like to believe that but how do you explain the fact that you completely smoked me on stock contis? and I had no traction problems.

My car is a lemon
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of course, I didn't think to deep stage the car..... I always shallow stage.... If I had deep staged, that could have been 12.03..... so close! I think I can do it with a new set of PS2's......
I think you may have that backward. Shallow staging gets you better e.t.'s because you are already moving a foot before tripping the timing light, at the expense of your reaction time. Deep staging gets you a better reaction time, at the expense of e.t.
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yea, that's what I thought also, which is why I always staged shallow, I try and stop as soon as the 2nd staging lights come on....

but 3 people there, and the track manager were telling me to pull as far forward as possible, justifying like you have a 6 inch headstart....


Originally Posted by enzom
I think you may have that backward. Shallow staging gets you better e.t.'s because you are already moving a foot before tripping the timing light, at the expense of your reaction time. Deep staging gets you a better reaction time, at the expense of e.t.
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Hey guys it looked like you all had a good time. much more fun than you could on test and tune night.

here is the video I shot. sorry for the shaking not use to the new canon DC20 it is so small

here it is http://www.tikihunter.net/Moroso.wmv

I also have it on DVD (the Canon DC20 is a DVD Camcorder)

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