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Old 07-12-2006, 02:33 PM
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Second Best Tire Choice

Since it seems impossible to get a 285/30/19 PS2, what is popular thought on the second best choice for a tire?
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Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3's.
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Dan,

Dont tell me you are gonna pull those 295 off?? Or did you wear them out already?? LOL...

I heard good things about the GSD3 tire also but I've never tried them yet.

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Since it seems impossible to get a 285/30/19 PS2, what is popular thought on the second best choice for a tire?
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Originally Posted by dsc
Since it seems impossible to get a 285/30/19 PS2, what is popular thought on the second best choice for a tire?
SL65 is fitted with Bridgestone Potenza RE050A in 255/35/19 285/30/19 so how bad can they be if a 1000Nm car has them OEM? CLS55 has the same tires.
I have PS2's in that size but need a rear due to a side wall puncture. It's lousy of Michelin to have none in stock and to refuse to even tell their customers when they would have them again. Maybe we should all just boycott Michelin from now on?

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You could also check into fitment with Bridgestone S03-Pole Positions. I have mounted several sets of these on different cars, and to tell you the truth, I was always happy with them.
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Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3's.
I have 19 x 9 front and 19 x 10 rear. Goodyear has the F1 (not GSD3) in 245/35/10 and 275/30/19. I'm afraid the tires will look pulled over the wheel and expose the wheel to curb rash. Those sizes seem to be better for 19 x 8.5 and 19 x 9.5. Anyone have those sizes on the 9 and 10?
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SL65 is fitted with Bridgestone Potenza RE050A in 255/35/19 285/30/19 so how bad can they be if a 1000Nm car has them OEM? CLS55 has the same tires.
I have PS2's in that size but need a rear due to a side wall puncture. It's lousy of Michelin to have none in stock and to refuse to even tell their customers when they would have them again. Maybe we should all just boycott Michelin from now on?
Can't do the RE050A in 285, they don't make them. They do make them in the RE050. Those are the tires I'm thinking of. I talked to tire rack and other suppliers (many) about 285 availability and everyone is the same. "Can't get them and don't know when they will be available" 285/30/19 seem to be a very limited choice.

ClayJ, no go on SO3 either.
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I hear ya - I often have a problem with trying to switch from OEM rubber on some of the cars that I own.

I would be surprised if you can't get a good tire from Michelin, Bridgestone, Pirelli, or Goodyear-

Have you checked the option of going with Pirelli's?

Last option is a new set of wheels....
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Originally Posted by dsc
Can't do the RE050A in 285, they don't make them. They do make them in the RE050. Those are the tires I'm thinking of. I talked to tire rack and other suppliers (many) about 285 availability and everyone is the same. "Can't get them and don't know when they will be available" 285/30/19 seem to be a very limited choice.

ClayJ, no go on SO3 either.
That sucks. We have them in stock in Sydney!
I bought the CLS55 19" set with RE050A's and shipped them from Miami to Sydney!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....Potenza+RE050A
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Tirerack claims they are in stock and ready to roll. $462 a piece, but still.

Were they sold out and didn't update the site??

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Originally Posted by dsc
Can't do the RE050A in 285, they don't make them. They do make them in the RE050. Those are the tires I'm thinking of. I talked to tire rack and other suppliers (many) about 285 availability and everyone is the same. "Can't get them and don't know when they will be available" 285/30/19 seem to be a very limited choice.

ClayJ, no go on SO3 either.

The Re050a is definately built in the sizes of 2553519 & 2853019. That is the oe tire for the sl55pp & the sl65. Another premium option... would be the new Yokohama Advan Sport.. I replaced the Re050a's on my car with the Advan Sports on my 06 Sl55 after 2,000 miles to try them out and they are excellent also. In fact both tires seem slightly more sticky and smoother than the ps2's which I have driven on my 04 E55. Both the Re050A and the Advan Sport are immediately available..how can I be so confident they are? I'm in the tire business , I checked today at my store.. and these are sizes which are common sellers in my area and on top of that.. they are the sizes on my personal car.
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Tirerack claims they are in stock and ready to roll. $462 a piece, but still.
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???? My TTR link shows $306 for 285/30/19 RE050A! Where did you get $462? That's more than PS2...
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I installed Yokos Advan Sport been told they are pretty good better then PS2...

They definately have 245/35 fronts and 275/30 and 285/30 rears...
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???? My TTR link shows $306 for 285/30/19 RE050A! Where did you get $462? That's more than PS2...
OK, I'm confused. I go the Bridgestone's web site and they have no listing for 285/30/19 in the RE050A but you guys say that tire exists, see link - http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tires...=searchbybrand

I called my installer and he says that tire does not exist. Am I doing something wrong? How can Tire Rack show them? Well, if I need to I'll get them from Tire Rack.

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No longer stock '06 E55, A3 3.2 Quattro, LRD4 HSE, R107 280SL
Throwing an alternative into the mix Dunlop SSR 's ... more toward the semi-slick side - but apparently work fine in the wet - ALMS cars use them for wets !!!

Reading further mbe not ideal for street as in same category as Pilot Sport Cup's... so maybe the Dunlop SP Sport Maxx.... tirerack has them ranked 1 overall, but the PS2 has a higher dry grip rating...

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NT-01 from Nitto is my choice, ordering them within a few days.
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OK, I'm confused. I go the Bridgestone's web site and they have no listing for 285/30/19 in the RE050A but you guys say that tire exists, see link - http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tires...=searchbybrand

I called my installer and he says that tire does not exist. Am I doing something wrong? How can Tire Rack show them? Well, if I need to I'll get them from Tire Rack.
Some idiot at Bridgestone forgot to update their site. I touched these tires with my own two hands...
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What did you finally decide? I am having the EXACT same problem you are - here's my post and some answers I got:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/155888-tire-options.html

BTW, I talked directly to a TireRack rep today, and he said they have "a bunch" of the B'stone SO3's in stock in our size. I'm thinking of going with those. Let me know what your final choice was and why.

(I called Michelin directly today as well, and the guy couldn't even give me an estimated date that they were going to do a batch of the PS2s in our size - I waited 3 months for my first set of PS2s! WTF??!!)
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S-03's are good stuff, I have them on my other rides, they handle like on rails with them. You wouldn't regret in getting them.
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Get the S-03's -- they are great tires.

They will need about 1000 miles to break-in before they are real smooth; but they do very well on all but grooved concrete and steep speedbumps.

Mine always lasted longer than I thought that they would on the street.

If you use them on the track either have them shaved or wait until they've worn below 8/10ths of an inch in tread depth....
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What did you finally decide? I am having the EXACT same problem you are - here's my post and some answers I got:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=155888

BTW, I talked directly to a TireRack rep today, and he said they have "a bunch" of the B'stone SO3's in stock in our size. I'm thinking of going with those. Let me know what your final choice was and why.

(I called Michelin directly today as well, and the guy couldn't even give me an estimated date that they were going to do a batch of the PS2s in our size - I waited 3 months for my first set of PS2s! WTF??!!)
Well, here's the deal. The reason I was looking for 285 in back was because I have the wheels and tires that were on vrus's E55. Those are 295 Porsche spec tires with a stiffer side wall. Nice tires. On the road I am getting jiggling of the car from side to side. My car is lowered but the tires aren’t hitting the wheel wells.

Right now I had my car put back to stock height via Star. I'm getting the Renntech module installed next week and I will adjust the car height to the way I like it. After a bunch of research my tech and I decided the toe needs to be adjusted. The factory spec toe we feel may be causing the tires to constantly look for a place ride causing the jiggle. If this all corrects my ride then I will stay with the tires. If not then I will probably try the thinner 285 rear tires. Right now the 12 inch wide rubber in back looks hot so I want to keep them if possible.

I am leaning toward the Yoko Advan because of the great things I have heard from many people including forum guys. I also am looking for quiet tires. It seems that tires are a crap shoot. Retailers should let us try a set (for a few miles) like shoes to see if we like them. When you’re paying $1200 to $1500 I don't mind paying extra bucks for a couple of remountings to get exactly what I like. That way you wouldn't have to wait 20,000 miles to correct a bad choice. How about it Venders!?
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What's this "toe" thing you are talking about? Please educate the uneducated - thanks!

BTW, I ordered the SO3's today from TireRack. They should be in by mid-week.
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Originally Posted by oblax4
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What's this "toe" thing you are talking about? Please educate the uneducated - thanks!

BTW, I ordered the SO3's today from TireRack. They should be in by mid-week.
"Toe" is exactly what it sounds like- think of your feet! Front or rear wheels can be "0 toe" when they are completely parallel to each other and, more importantly, to the axis of the car. This is most neutral as far as handling is concerned. A bit of "toe out", ie. front of the wheel points 1-3 mm outward, will make the car change direction more readily, but is less stable at speed in a straight line.
Conversely, "toe-in" makes the wheels a bit "pigeon-toed', which renders the car more stable driving in a straight line but harder to change direction quickly, such as in a slalom.
These adjustments, together with camber and caster form the trifecta of a good wheel alignment matched to the vehicle's suspension, tires and your driving style.
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Thanks, Rafal! Wondering now how to know whether my alignment is correct or not. I don't think I have the greatest "seat" to feel the subtleties of less-than-favorable handling. I think my car handles okay, and the tire wear is not uneven.
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Thanks, Rafal! Wondering now how to know whether my alignment is correct or not. I don't think I have the greatest "seat" to feel the subtleties of less-than-favorable handling. I think my car handles okay, and the tire wear is not uneven.
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