Had my re-flash done and.....
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Had my re-flash done and.....
Funny actually.
Service manager called me and said "we need to reflash your ECU and I need to know if you have any upgraded software because it will overwrite" I told him no since I don't but felt like he was fishing to tag my car as modified in their computer
Results
A little ruff idle and a few quirky engine RPM changes at first but overall car actually feels as good or better than before. Seems to have a bit more TQ off idle???maybe?
Service manager called me and said "we need to reflash your ECU and I need to know if you have any upgraded software because it will overwrite" I told him no since I don't but felt like he was fishing to tag my car as modified in their computer
Results
A little ruff idle and a few quirky engine RPM changes at first but overall car actually feels as good or better than before. Seems to have a bit more TQ off idle???maybe?
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Is it me or has anyone else experienced crappy gas mileage since the recall???????????????????????????????
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Originally Posted by ENDSMTG
Is it me or has anyone else experienced crappy gas mileage since the recall???????????????????????????????
It probably has the same performance but doesn't have the rambunctiousness that it used to have. With traction control on, I notice that it doesn't shut the motor down like it used to. It's way more soft and less jerky than before. I liked it better the old way.
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Guys and gals
I have noticed no difference in any performance characteristics or MPG. If anything the car is running excellent considering the heat here in Savannah.
Temps have been 95 plus here for weeks.
I have followed threads about this and it does seem that the older,03 and 04 cars, are being effected much worse than the newer cars.
It also seems that the earlier reflash recipients seem to be having more issues. Do you think MB has changed the flash again due to issues with early adopters?
I have noticed no difference in any performance characteristics or MPG. If anything the car is running excellent considering the heat here in Savannah.
Temps have been 95 plus here for weeks.
I have followed threads about this and it does seem that the older,03 and 04 cars, are being effected much worse than the newer cars.
It also seems that the earlier reflash recipients seem to be having more issues. Do you think MB has changed the flash again due to issues with early adopters?
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i don't know what the car was like before the flash since i bought it post flash but my '03 won't even spin the tires with esp off. if someone from mb wants to try telling me that performance hasn't been altered they had better be wearing a jockstrap.
i could care less about mpg for now, i just want a real e55.
i could care less about mpg for now, i just want a real e55.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
i don't know what the car was like before the flash since i bought it post flash but my '03 won't even spin the tires with esp off. if someone from mb wants to try telling me that performance hasn't been altered they had better be wearing a jockstrap.
i could care less about mpg for now, i just want a real e55.
i could care less about mpg for now, i just want a real e55.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
i don't know what the car was like before the flash since i bought it post flash but my '03 won't even spin the tires with esp off. if someone from mb wants to try telling me that performance hasn't been altered they had better be wearing a jockstrap.
i could care less about mpg for now, i just want a real e55.
i could care less about mpg for now, i just want a real e55.
An E55 not smoking the tires from a stop is not a good sign at all.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
i don't know what the car was like before the flash since i bought it post flash but my '03 won't even spin the tires with esp off. if someone from mb wants to try telling me that performance hasn't been altered they had better be wearing a jockstrap.
i could care less about mpg for now, i just want a real e55.
i could care less about mpg for now, i just want a real e55.
I'm not sure why you're still talking about this and haven't seemed to address the issue because if you've done any research obviously there's a problem. I suggest a dyno otherwise MB may not believe you. But, at the risk of offending you, you have been flooring it in S mode and not in C, correct ? Since C starts in 2nd and much harder to spin.
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Originally Posted by regor60
I'm not sure why you're still talking about this and haven't seemed to address the issue because if you've done any research obviously there's a problem. I suggest a dyno otherwise MB may not believe you. But, at the risk of offending you, you have been flooring it in S mode and not in C, correct ? Since C starts in 2nd and much harder to spin.
My car will smoke the tires in C/S/M no problem. What are you talking about? I have a hard time getting my tires NOT to spin, and you wonder if it is the shifter setting? This ain't a bimmer. Put it in C and comfort on the suspension and see if it still doesn't haul nuts!! this is an E55!!
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
i don't know what the car was like before the flash since i bought it post flash but my '03 won't even spin the tires with esp off. if someone from mb wants to try telling me that performance hasn't been altered they had better be wearing a jockstrap.
i could care less about mpg for now, i just want a real e55.
i could care less about mpg for now, i just want a real e55.
My car also will not smoke the tires after the recall.... ITs really strange... I figured an E55 will have no problems tearing up rubber..... i will have to do something about this...
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Originally Posted by jangy
Mine still barks going into 3rd. Something is up with yours or you aren't running OEM rocks (i.e. Contis). Is MB even listening to you?
An E55 not smoking the tires from a stop is not a good sign at all.
An E55 not smoking the tires from a stop is not a good sign at all.
Originally Posted by regor60
I'm not sure why you're still talking about this and haven't seemed to address the issue because if you've done any research obviously there's a problem. I suggest a dyno otherwise MB may not believe you. But, at the risk of offending you, you have been flooring it in S mode and not in C, correct ? Since C starts in 2nd and much harder to spin.
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Originally Posted by jangy
Mine still barks going into 3rd. Something is up with yours or you aren't running OEM rocks (i.e. Contis). Is MB even listening to you?
An E55 not smoking the tires from a stop is not a good sign at all.
An E55 not smoking the tires from a stop is not a good sign at all.
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are these all 03 and 04s that can't smoke the tires after recall?
i have an 06cls55 and when i took it in they said no software updates were needed, so mine probably has the updates in it already. it can smoke the tires quite easily i might add.... but i'm wondering of any 05s have this prob.... or even 06's that needed the recall. i would be at the dealership if i lost that much power....
i have an 06cls55 and when i took it in they said no software updates were needed, so mine probably has the updates in it already. it can smoke the tires quite easily i might add.... but i'm wondering of any 05s have this prob.... or even 06's that needed the recall. i would be at the dealership if i lost that much power....
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
a dyno would be nice but after talking with a few tuners, that may not even be an option. these recall ecu'd cars tend to shut down when the new load limit is exceeded and many can't even get their cars dyno'd now!!!
My car makes smoke post re-flash. BUT, I had an ECU update before the re-flash, and then overnighted it to RennTech AFTER the MB re-flash for RennTech to overwrite their upgrades back on to the chip. Either way, you should be able to spin your tires no matter what with these cars - there is something definitely awry with your beast!
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Originally Posted by Dogshine
are these all 03 and 04s that can't smoke the tires after recall?
i have an 06cls55 and when i took it in they said no software updates were needed, so mine probably has the updates in it already. it can smoke the tires quite easily i might add.... but i'm wondering of any 05s have this prob.... or even 06's that needed the recall. i would be at the dealership if i lost that much power....
i have an 06cls55 and when i took it in they said no software updates were needed, so mine probably has the updates in it already. it can smoke the tires quite easily i might add.... but i'm wondering of any 05s have this prob.... or even 06's that needed the recall. i would be at the dealership if i lost that much power....
Reading some of the posts on the forums, some cars are affected and some aren't. I am wondering of those who were and those who weren't what year are there cars? Mine is an 04. This possibly could be an issue with the year of the vehicle. Just a thought.
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With ESP off, My rear wheels will spin forever. The car does a big violent fish tail and the rears just keep spinning. Eventually I get chicken and let up on the gas. I have no idea how long I could keep the tires burning.
To think of an E55 that can't make the rears break loose at all? Something's wrong!
To think of an E55 that can't make the rears break loose at all? Something's wrong!
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Originally Posted by NewMoses
With ESP off, My rear wheels will spin forever. The car does a big violent fish tail and the rears just keep spinning. Eventually I get chicken and let up on the gas. I have no idea how long I could keep the tires burning.
To think of an E55 that can't make the rears brake loose at all? Something's wrong!
To think of an E55 that can't make the rears brake loose at all? Something's wrong!
Yeah,like your supercharger not engaging at all
BTW, I do think there is some evidence for a correlation between model yr and issues with this flash. It seems most effected are the 03 and 04's.
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Originally Posted by E552006
Yeah,like your supercharger not engaging at all
BTW, I do think there is some evidence for a correlation between model yr and issues with this flash. It seems most effected are the 03 and 04's.
BTW, I do think there is some evidence for a correlation between model yr and issues with this flash. It seems most effected are the 03 and 04's.
Lets get a poll together or something. Try to collect as much info as we can and some how try to come to some kind of conclusion....
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Originally Posted by oblax4
Do a search on Dynos on this forum, and you'll find instructions on how to properly do it. It has to be put in "dyno" mode, etc. Whoever tells you they can't dyno your car is bs-ing you!
My car makes smoke post re-flash. BUT, I had an ECU update before the re-flash, and then overnighted it to RennTech AFTER the MB re-flash for RennTech to overwrite their upgrades back on to the chip. Either way, you should be able to spin your tires no matter what with these cars - there is something definitely awry with your beast!
My car makes smoke post re-flash. BUT, I had an ECU update before the re-flash, and then overnighted it to RennTech AFTER the MB re-flash for RennTech to overwrite their upgrades back on to the chip. Either way, you should be able to spin your tires no matter what with these cars - there is something definitely awry with your beast!
there is definitely something wrong with these cars and i would bank on it being ecu related instead of mechanical. mb idiots won't admit to anything and only say that it must be a new safety feature!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
right back atcha regarding the "do a search" comment. there's more than a few people on this board that can't dyno their cars now...and i'll let you tell simon at evosport or cory at kleeman that they're full of **** about the dyno thing yourself.
there is definitely something wrong with these cars and i would bank on it being ecu related instead of mechanical. mb idiots won't admit to anything and only say that it must be a new safety feature!?!?!?
there is definitely something wrong with these cars and i would bank on it being ecu related instead of mechanical. mb idiots won't admit to anything and only say that it must be a new safety feature!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by jangy
Dyno mode is an MB feature. It is not for you to use, but for them to use to test (not dyno). Take it in and let them know it will not go into the menu and at least they will have a problem they can duplicate. My '06 needed no update and i can get a dyno. If that is contrary to EVO or Kleeman's claims, then they are indeed full of ****. Simple.
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Originally Posted by jangy
Dyno mode is an MB feature. It is not for you to use, but for them to use to test (not dyno). Take it in and let them know it will not go into the menu and at least they will have a problem they can duplicate. My '06 needed no update and i can get a dyno. If that is contrary to EVO or Kleeman's claims, then they are indeed full of ****. Simple.
.........Chiromikey has summarized the problem accurately. It is actually possible with a DAS machine to read the individual strings of codes in the ECU. This has alread been done and the load limit issue discovered.
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Hi Ted,
If you are familiar with this procedure and can explain it to me, I can check it out on a couple of E's up here that had the recall done. What do I have to do in DAS in order to check if the load limit is active?
I would like to definitively know if my car has the load limit on it or not.
[QUOTE=Ted BaldwinIt is actually possible with a DAS machine to read the individual strings of codes in the ECU. This has alread been done and the load limit issue discovered.
Ted[/QUOTE]
If you are familiar with this procedure and can explain it to me, I can check it out on a couple of E's up here that had the recall done. What do I have to do in DAS in order to check if the load limit is active?
I would like to definitively know if my car has the load limit on it or not.
[QUOTE=Ted BaldwinIt is actually possible with a DAS machine to read the individual strings of codes in the ECU. This has alread been done and the load limit issue discovered.
Ted[/QUOTE]
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hey chiromikey, are you a Gonstead man?
