For Sale: 2007 E63
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I believe the E63 may be similar in acceleration than a stock E55 between 25 to 60. After 80, the E63 may be faster. E63 may also launch a bit better, but the E55 definitley kicks much harder even without Kleemann. With K1, there is no comparison. It will be faster everywhere.
That's why I am getting a 2007 SL55. This may be the best and last 55 engine MBZ will ever make.
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Does edmunds just lie and make up numbers?
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What was the E550's trap speed at the end of the Q/M though?
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Answered my own question:
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Nail it from a dead stop and the E550 hits like Tyson in his prime. At full throttle, the rear-wheel-drive E550 treats with a melodious V8 bellow, firm, right-on-redline upshifts and great forward thrust. Zero to 60 mph is a 5.2-second sprint. Just over 8 seconds later the quarter-mile has been covered and the E550 is traveling at more than 104 mph.
So according to this test of the E550 it did the Q/M in more than 13.2 (probably 13.4-13.5 based on 5.2 + "just over 8 seconds") @ more than 104 which is certainly not 13 flat or close to 108+ mph trap's Derek's E63 did.
From Edmund's
Bye, bye baby
Nail it from a dead stop and the E550 hits like Tyson in his prime. At full throttle, the rear-wheel-drive E550 treats with a melodious V8 bellow, firm, right-on-redline upshifts and great forward thrust. Zero to 60 mph is a 5.2-second sprint. Just over 8 seconds later the quarter-mile has been covered and the E550 is traveling at more than 104 mph.
So according to this test of the E550 it did the Q/M in more than 13.2 (probably 13.4-13.5 based on 5.2 + "just over 8 seconds") @ more than 104 which is certainly not 13 flat or close to 108+ mph trap's Derek's E63 did.
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How many trades in's does it take for a company to get to the center of a Turbie Pop.
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I guess the only thing to do now is wait until the track event next week and see if the results are replicated.
I have >1000 miles on my E63, but unfortunally I live nowhere near a track...
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I have >1000 miles on my E63, but unfortunally I live nowhere near a track...
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Hi Guys,
I have not posted for many years and have been waiting for some confirmation of what I experienced. I had my E63 order for a long time and I thought it was going to be the perfect car for me. I have owned two E55's, a 2001 and a 2004 which I sold in the spring. Both cars were great, with the 2004 being a huge improvement over the 2001. I received the first E63 at my dealership about a month. My E63 was in many ways a huge improvement over the E55. One of my favorite things about the E63 is that I could get a light colored interior. My wife and I went to pick up the car and it was really stunning. And then we went a ride....... The car was a huge disappointment. I can tell you without a doubt that the E63 is not faster then a normal running E55. Having drag raced for many years I cannot see that car running under 12.75.
We ended up not taking the car and are searching for a nice E55, hopefully with mods. If anyone is selling, let me know
I have not posted for many years and have been waiting for some confirmation of what I experienced. I had my E63 order for a long time and I thought it was going to be the perfect car for me. I have owned two E55's, a 2001 and a 2004 which I sold in the spring. Both cars were great, with the 2004 being a huge improvement over the 2001. I received the first E63 at my dealership about a month. My E63 was in many ways a huge improvement over the E55. One of my favorite things about the E63 is that I could get a light colored interior. My wife and I went to pick up the car and it was really stunning. And then we went a ride....... The car was a huge disappointment. I can tell you without a doubt that the E63 is not faster then a normal running E55. Having drag raced for many years I cannot see that car running under 12.75.
We ended up not taking the car and are searching for a nice E55, hopefully with mods. If anyone is selling, let me know
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In 2002, MB developed the M275 5513cc (current V12 BITURBO) engine with twin-turbochargers incorporated into the design of the engine. There is no N/A version of the M275. I don't know why AMG did not do the same for this new 6.3 liter engine?? We all know a biturbo system is coming, and I think the W211 could benefit from 600+ torque. But why not develop this engine with twin-turbos from the get-go? Going from 516>>>465 makes no sense at all. Most of us buy these AMGs (or 600s
) because of the torque not the horsepower!!!
) because of the torque not the horsepower!!!
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My guess is that there is either something basically wrong with your car, or you just got a dog.
From what I've seen on this forum since I joined last year, there are fast AMG's and there are relatively slower AMG's. I've seen ET's for E55's in the low 12's and I've seen posts of E55's in the low 13's. Honestly, I think my 2003 E55 would be hard pressed to consistently break into the 12's based on comments I've read about the torque and power of others E55's.
I've owned a lot of muscle cars and bikes in my life and there is always a large range of variability in performance. If I were you, I would have the car checked out before I sell it.
From what I've seen on this forum since I joined last year, there are fast AMG's and there are relatively slower AMG's. I've seen ET's for E55's in the low 12's and I've seen posts of E55's in the low 13's. Honestly, I think my 2003 E55 would be hard pressed to consistently break into the 12's based on comments I've read about the torque and power of others E55's.
I've owned a lot of muscle cars and bikes in my life and there is always a large range of variability in performance. If I were you, I would have the car checked out before I sell it.
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Hi Guys,
I have not posted for many years and have been waiting for some confirmation of what I experienced. I had my E63 order for a long time and I thought it was going to be the perfect car for me. I have owned two E55's, a 2001 and a 2004 which I sold in the spring. Both cars were great, with the 2004 being a huge improvement over the 2001. I received the first E63 at my dealership about a month. My E63 was in many ways a huge improvement over the E55. One of my favorite things about the E63 is that I could get a light colored interior. My wife and I went to pick up the car and it was really stunning. And then we went a ride....... The car was a huge disappointment. I can tell you without a doubt that the E63 is not faster then a normal running E55. Having drag raced for many years I cannot see that car running under 12.75.
We ended up not taking the car and are searching for a nice E55, hopefully with mods. If anyone is selling, let me know
I have not posted for many years and have been waiting for some confirmation of what I experienced. I had my E63 order for a long time and I thought it was going to be the perfect car for me. I have owned two E55's, a 2001 and a 2004 which I sold in the spring. Both cars were great, with the 2004 being a huge improvement over the 2001. I received the first E63 at my dealership about a month. My E63 was in many ways a huge improvement over the E55. One of my favorite things about the E63 is that I could get a light colored interior. My wife and I went to pick up the car and it was really stunning. And then we went a ride....... The car was a huge disappointment. I can tell you without a doubt that the E63 is not faster then a normal running E55. Having drag raced for many years I cannot see that car running under 12.75.
We ended up not taking the car and are searching for a nice E55, hopefully with mods. If anyone is selling, let me know
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My guess is that there is either something basically wrong with your car, or you just got a dog.
From what I've seen on this forum since I joined last year, there are fast AMG's and there are relatively slower AMG's. I've seen ET's for E55's in the low 12's and I've seen posts of E55's in the low 13's. Honestly, I think my 2003 E55 would be hard pressed to consistently break into the 12's based on comments I've read about the torque and power of others E55's.
I've owned a lot of muscle cars and bikes in my life and there is always a large range of variability in performance. If I were you, I would have the car checked out before I sell it.
From what I've seen on this forum since I joined last year, there are fast AMG's and there are relatively slower AMG's. I've seen ET's for E55's in the low 12's and I've seen posts of E55's in the low 13's. Honestly, I think my 2003 E55 would be hard pressed to consistently break into the 12's based on comments I've read about the torque and power of others E55's.
I've owned a lot of muscle cars and bikes in my life and there is always a large range of variability in performance. If I were you, I would have the car checked out before I sell it.
Who knows Derek, maybe you got a lemon. I'm not going to go out there and say that AMG would have built a NEW car that is slower than the old one, but who knows, thats a possibility also. But since when have you given up this easily? It sure took you long enough to get your E55 into the 10's but you did it. Sure, if you don't want to put the milage on the car, don't. But let me tell you, even if I were planning on selling it, I would have MBZ check it out anyway simply because of how pissed I would be that they sold me a car like that. You had high expectations (admit it, we all did) and you were let down. TAKE IT TO THE DEALER AND GIVE THEM HELL! Thats what I would do.
This whole E63 thing is way too new to start making conclusions. There are very few E63's in the United States, let alone North America, that even have over 1-2k miles on them. Give it some time and lets see what happens.
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Dream on, Homey. While I will be there on 9/15 with my new E63, I will not be allowing others to drag race it. I do not care THAT much about the scientific testing process to allow strangers to race my car.
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I received the first E63 at my dealership about a month. My E63 was in many ways a huge improvement over the E55. One of my favorite things about the E63 is that I could get a light colored interior. My wife and I went to pick up the car and it was really stunning. And then we went a ride....... The car was a huge disappointment. I can tell you without a doubt that the E63 is not faster then a normal running E55. Having drag raced for many years I cannot see that car running under 12.75.
We ended up not taking the car and are searching for a nice E55, hopefully with mods. If anyone is selling, let me know
We ended up not taking the car and are searching for a nice E55, hopefully with mods. If anyone is selling, let me know
You received the 1st E63 at your dealership.
Your E63 was in many ways a huge improvement over the E55.
But you went for a ride (test drive I presume) and it was a huge disappointment.
So you ended up not taking the car.
The way you worded it, sounds like you had the E63 (as in bought the car) and drove it around. Then you decided while it has many improvements over the E55......its not that fast.
But in reality, you only test drove the car.
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Derek......... just put the hose on the 63 and gain back the low end. It's that easy, but better make it a wet kit. Toss in the drag radials, an LSD and a new ring and pinion. Ice the intake and run the CCW's up front.
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First off a CLK63 is less powerful than the E63 and weighs a tad over 4k lbs.
Next, your car is modified....that excludes it there there.
E63AMG went 5 rounds with against a stock 55 and won each time.
But I think we'll all agree, that the E55 vs. E63 comparison is just about the biggest "who has the bigger d*" contest ever.
Next, your car is modified....that excludes it there there.
E63AMG went 5 rounds with against a stock 55 and won each time.
But I think we'll all agree, that the E55 vs. E63 comparison is just about the biggest "who has the bigger d*" contest ever.
I know that my car is modified.... not disputing that. Just saying that I spanked it. Probably even worse than I would a stock E55. I can't see running a stock E55 and being down 3-4 cars around 40mph and coming back to spank it by 3 car lengths in the next 60 mph (40-100mph). I basically made up 7 car lengths from 40-100mph.
We'll all know for certain on the 15th. It will be settled.
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speaking of the m6, how can a 3900 lb car w/ 500hp@7750 and 383tq@6100rpm obtain 4.5s in a 0-60 and 12.4 for the 1/4 mile run when it appears that the new e63 can't? both cars have very close specs. errrr???? say it ain't so... 
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Track vs Road perspective....
Guys,
This E63 performance is very revealing. I said before that the E55 will be the one to gain the most from a sticky quarter track as it is able to launch much more easily than on some back street.
Since the qtr to me is mostly about launch this is where the E55 really shines ... it picks up way more advavantage than the E63 does (if any at all) as the E63 can get most of its power down in a street race. The E55 can be a tricky balance between shove in your seat, smoke, or flashing lights.
So I reckon at the qtr track the E55 will remain the one to beat - on a road race the E63 will be better, and on a street drag it will all depend on whether the E55 gets a good launch or not.
This however does not explain the poor trap speed.....
All this and the ECU reflash all adds up now ...
AMG must be sitting there after developing their masterpiece engine and be saying shheeezz our new flagship engine is slower than a 5 year old design ... !!!!
This E63 performance is very revealing. I said before that the E55 will be the one to gain the most from a sticky quarter track as it is able to launch much more easily than on some back street.
Since the qtr to me is mostly about launch this is where the E55 really shines ... it picks up way more advavantage than the E63 does (if any at all) as the E63 can get most of its power down in a street race. The E55 can be a tricky balance between shove in your seat, smoke, or flashing lights.
So I reckon at the qtr track the E55 will remain the one to beat - on a road race the E63 will be better, and on a street drag it will all depend on whether the E55 gets a good launch or not.
This however does not explain the poor trap speed.....
All this and the ECU reflash all adds up now ...
AMG must be sitting there after developing their masterpiece engine and be saying shheeezz our new flagship engine is slower than a 5 year old design ... !!!!
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That's because I was an idiot in clarifying my statement. I thought we weret talking about dynos, not track runs. My mistake.
Thans dragon, I found the sig on e46fanatics, I hope the owner doesn't mind me using it, I think it's hilarious!
Thans dragon, I found the sig on e46fanatics, I hope the owner doesn't mind me using it, I think it's hilarious!
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This is not an uncommon occurance. If the CLK has space limitations that would cause the intake and/or exhaust systems to be restricted, its engine could put out the same torque level and less HP due to reduced airflow in the upper RPM range.
