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Old 09-07-2006, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
So given what you have said about the ML63 the E63 Derek has is far slower.

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Yea there is somthing really wrong with it, i mean 500 hp and it rans 13s meh...
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Not sure what the deal is with your car, but I've driven a new E63 and would rip my M3 a new a-hole.
Nor do I but I've now run both of those cars at the same track and if I caught you sleeping at the light in my E63, you'd lose to a M3. Truly disapointing.

I did forget one good thing though- the cruise now accelerates in 1 mph increments instead of 5. Mix that will the MAX COOL button and they're on the right track.
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Nor do I but I've now run both of those cars at the same track and if I caught you sleeping at the light in my E63, you'd lose to a M3. Truly disapointing.

I did forget one good thing though- the cruise now accelerates in 1 mph increments instead of 5. Mix that will the MAX COOL button and they're on the right track.
Seriously, I just think you need to put more miles on it......I'll bet it will get faster as you pile them on.

That is of course to say you decide to keep it and see what brings.

Honestly, I would........you're going to see similar money whether you sell at 1k or 4k miles.
Old 09-07-2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
I truly wish it were all a joke. My sarcasm is a weak attempt at masking the pain. Car is WELL under 1,000 miles. While the E55 is really easy to drag, the E63 is even easier. The first run I forgot to start in 1st gear and the downshift cost a bit. One other time, a 13.5 I believe, I ran it in manual and bounced off the rev limiter.

The weather wasn't much different than two years ago, September of 04, when I ran 12.5-12.6 with a new E55 that was under 1,000 miles.
Track prep was fine with wheel spin only happening once. I NEVER felt ESP intrude on the power delivery. It just ran really slow. I also can't imagine AMG dialing it down so much and hope that mine is quite the anomoly.

As for the dyno, I don't want to put any more miles on it. Going to try a M6 or S600. Any recs?

Thanks for the support and I wish I had better news. I pray my car is a mistake. It could be the AMG gods getting me back for putting laughing gas on their work of art.

Best Run
60' 2.035
330 5.594
1/8 8.489
MPH 85.60
1000 10.948
1/4 13.018
MPH 108.84

7:17 PM
10/6/06
Gainesville Raceway

As for the video, here it is:
http://www.whitisconsulting.com/videos/E63gville.wmv
Hmmm, unless the 63 motors have much tighter clearences(which would truly benefit from the extra break-in miles) sounds like the 63 may be in serious trouble against a 55. Don't be suprised to see the mags shows better times however.

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Old 09-07-2006, 04:33 PM
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I know, it's quite disappointing. Hopefully they'll have something better when the E gets it's redesign in a few years. I'd hate to think the new body would perform worse than the "old" 55.
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Derek, something's not right here. forum member E63AMG ran his E63 vs his E55 and said he easily beat the E55 i do agree w/ others in that u should think about keeping E63 for a couple more thousand miles to see if she improves. u've already taken the initial depreciation hit. i guess in 8 more days we'll finally see some 1/4 runs b/w E63, E55, M5, etc.
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In all seriousness, 900hp at the crank. 747rwhp just like the jet... LOL..

The main hurdle is the tranny... 2 GT35R turbos with a few extra pounds of boost and all the assorted support gear and you are all set.

I've been looking for an SL65 for a while... A friend just told me he is selling his.. He wants $190,000. .2005 w/4,000kms. black/black.. I was considering buying it.. Then a 2004 SL600 came up with a few mods for mid $80K USD.. So I am probably going to buy that one.

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What would be your goal on the SL600?

In 3-4 years i would love to pick up an SL65! Now thats a keeper! its funny how they depreciate in US!

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Old 09-07-2006, 04:46 PM
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Seriously, I just think you need to put more miles on it......I'll bet it will get faster as you pile them on.
... what and hope for a 12.8 or 12.9 at 110mph???? How much do you think it can really improve after 1k miles???

Let's just face it... the E63 is slower than the E55.
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Originally Posted by jtc55
Derek, something's not right here. forum member E63AMG ran his E63 vs his E55 and said he easily beat the E55 i do agree w/ others in that u should think about keeping E63 for a couple more thousand miles to see if she improves. u've already taken the initial depreciation hit. i guess in 8 more days we'll finally see some 1/4 runs b/w E63, E55, M5, etc.
my $.02, but at this point i'd have to take e63amg's tests with a grain of salt since his e55 has been reflashed. as you probably know from my *****ing and whining, i have first hand experience with a reflashed e55 and it would have been lucky to see a mid 13 second run...which would put e63amg's subjective results right in line with derek's objective data.

i seriously hope i'm way off base and other e63's prove derek's to be an anomaly.
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Wowie, wow, wow. The plot thickens!

I think its important to remember that, just like I pointed out in my E63 testing, this is a sample of 1 car.

By next Friday when Loren holds the event, I will have about 600 miles on my car. At least that will give a sample of 2 cars and their performance when pretty much brand new.
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU

Best Run
60' 2.035
330 5.594
1/8 8.489
MPH 85.60
1000 10.948
1/4 13.018
MPH 108.84

7:17 PM
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Gainesville Raceway

As for the video, here it is:
http://www.whitisconsulting.com/videos/E63gville.wmv
P-I-G spells P-I-T-I-F-U-L Throw the Bimmer V10 in there.
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September 15th, 2006

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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
... what and hope for a 12.8 or 12.9 at 110mph???? How much do you think it can really improve after 1k miles???

Let's just face it... the E63 is slower than the E55.

How can make a blanket statement like that, when we're talking about a sample of ONE?
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Originally Posted by WayneE
How can make a blanket statement like that, when we're talking about a sample of ONE?
True that brother.

Put it this way, when I line up next to an E63 i'll make sure i'm tuning my radio when the light turns green!
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
The Jerry Lewis telethon was LAST weekend. I think I've shown that I'm more than willing to step up to the plate for the team. What have you done?

If I keep it, of course I'll dyno it. But it doesn't look like I'm going to keep a car that may have a hard time outrunning an M3.
Easy buster. I know you might not be pleased about your car being slow but a few miles on a dyno might not make it worth all that much less. Ive done plenty to help people now and then. Not everyone posts stories to lend a helping hand. No need for getting personal her Derek.

Do as you see fit but if I had a car I was going to take a bath on I might want to see why it was running as slow as a car with 150 fewer hp. There are 5 E63's at Vadims dealership, 4 here around me for sale, and many others as well. Selling it used wont be a plesent event. I would rather have a new car that works fine than your car that seems to be sick IMHO. They dyno allows you to see what the issue is and maybe get a new car at no cost or a check for your full purchase price.

You might get mb to take the car back if it is indeed down on power and that saves you money.

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Old 09-07-2006, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Loren


Coming to a theater near you:

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Just make sure at least some of the same people driving the 55 get to drive the 63 and visa versa in order to reduce the driver margins.
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Originally Posted by WayneE
How can make a blanket statement like that, when we're talking about a sample of ONE?
.... because this back and forth of what's faster is getting annoying. Instead of putting out the fire, looks like I just added fuel!!!!!!! HAHAHA.

Honestly... I could care less about what is faster stock for stock... like many others I have K2 putting down 100 more hp than the E63 and the E63's tranny can't handle that much power,,,,, so I honestly don't give a rats *** if the E63 is faster than a stock E55.

Derek ran low 13's in his E63. He is a great driver and I think that run is indicitive of what a stock E63 will do. That coupled with the beating I put on a CLK63. So,,, it is a sample of 2 not 1.
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
.... because this back and forth of what's faster is getting annoying. Instead of putting out the fire, looks like I just added fuel!!!!!!! HAHAHA.

Honestly... I could care less about what is faster stock for stock... like many others I have K2 putting down 100 more hp than the E63 and the E63's tranny can't handle that much power,,,,, so I honestly don't give a rats *** if the E63 is faster than a stock E55.

Derek ran low 13's in his E63. He is a great driver and I think that run is indicitive of what a stock E63 will do. That coupled with the beating I put on a CLK63. So,,, it is a sample of 2 not 1.
And with me and the E63 Darren drove and the run against an SLK55 that makes 4 losses for the 63
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
.... because this back and forth of what's faster is getting annoying. Instead of putting out the fire, looks like I just added fuel!!!!!!! HAHAHA.

Honestly... I could care less about what is faster stock for stock... like many others I have K2 putting down 100 more hp than the E63 and the E63's tranny can't handle that much power,,,,, so I honestly don't give a rats *** if the E63 is faster than a stock E55.


Derek ran low 13's in his E63. He is a great driver and I think that run is indicitive of what a stock E63 will do. That coupled with the beating I put on a CLK63. So,,, it is a sample of 2 not 1.
First off a CLK63 is less powerful than the E63 and weighs a tad over 4k lbs.

Next, your car is modified....that excludes it there there.

E63AMG went 5 rounds with against a stock 55 and won each time.

But I think we'll all agree, that the E55 vs. E63 comparison is just about the biggest "who has the bigger d*" contest ever.
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I just can't see it picking up 7MPH (70HP worth) of trap speed to get where most would expect from more miles....

bad weather could account for up to 3MPH, bad gas? we'll have some more times soon.... I don't we can judge the E63 as a whole yet....

I want to see an M6 pull 120+ traps..... magainze test's don't count.....



Originally Posted by RJC
Damn ...Wait and see how she runs after 3000 miles are on the clock (if you decide to keep her). M6's are very fast with trap speeds around 122 mph! What about a 997 Twin Turbo?

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edmunds got an E550 sport to do the quarter mile in 13 flat. That has 382 hp 391 tq. Maybe you forgot to press the sport 500 hp button .
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Nor do I but I've now run both of those cars at the same track and if I caught you sleeping at the light in my E63, you'd lose to a M3. Truly disapointing.

I did forget one good thing though- the cruise now accelerates in 1 mph increments instead of 5. Mix that will the MAX COOL button and they're on the right track.
What year is your beast? My '06 does 1mph increments.
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edmunds got an E550 sport to do the quarter mile in 13 flat. That has 382 hp 391 tq. Maybe you forgot to press the sport 500 hp button .
Hmmm....... Derek, check your engine and see if you've got a rebadged car!
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
Ive done plenty to help people now and then. Not everyone posts stories to lend a helping hand. No need for getting personal her Derek.
I'm getting no more personal than you. After I said I wasn't going to dyno it, you told me I needed to for the good of the group. I stated that I've probably done a fair share and asked what you've done for the group. Still waiting.

I'm not traveling 100 miles roundtrip to dyno a car that I no longer want. There's simply no need.


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