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Old 01-26-2007, 08:32 PM
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K1 VS Stock = 0?????

Just had K pulley installed on my '06 (finally), and the results were,,,,I'm going to say, strange. Evo did the resonator delete at the same time. I figure that makes about zero difference, just a touch more sound (I like it and it helps with the factory 72 mph "droning"). Bone stock down to the filters and it makes makes 10 RWHP more than any stock E55 ever dyno'd by Evo, 434.9/467.1 RW!! I lost power on the first 2 runs with the pulley, ultimately gaining about 2 RWHP and 20 lb/ft. I only had the pulley installed, and no ECU mods were done. I asked Cory before this was done and he confirmed that very little would be gained with software, maybe 5 hp. It's a little rich on top but how much of a difference could a ECU mod make?? Is it possible my ECU has decided this is the "limit" for my motor? It has had the latest flash updates and seemed completely un-affected, just as strong as always.
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:39 PM
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you got 434.9hp stock to the rear wheels? if so that is crazy i had 401hp and 447hp after renntech pully and ECU. ypu might be gettin lower numbers cuzz you engin is gettin hot. my numbers droped like crazy before i had the renn IC and heat exchanger put in. then i only droped like 8hp in 3 back to back runs.
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Originally Posted by Fast55
Just had K pulley installed on my '06 (finally), and the results were,,,,I'm going to say, strange. Evo did the resonator delete at the same time. I figure that makes about zero difference, just a touch more sound (I like it and it helps with the factory 72 mph "droning"). Bone stock down to the filters and it makes makes 10 RWHP more than any stock E55 ever dyno'd by Evo, 434.9/467.1 RW!! I lost power on the first 2 runs with the pulley, ultimately gaining about 2 RWHP and 20 lb/ft. I only had the pulley installed, and no ECU mods were done. I asked Cory before this was done and he confirmed that very little would be gained with software, maybe 5 hp. It's a little rich on top but how much of a difference could a ECU mod make?? Is it possible my ECU has decided this is the "limit" for my motor? It has had the latest flash updates and seemed completely un-affected, just as strong as always.
Your stock car is VERY STRONG...
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Maybe the stock ECU needs some time to adjust to the increased boost/airflow?
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I'm absolutely positive you will have some really good gains if you combine software with your pulley upgrade. The smaller diameter pulley will change the dynamics of your S/C and air intake system, something which - with the addition of software - your car will actually recognize and benefit from. Just my $0.02.
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Originally Posted by ROCKETW19
i had 401hp and 447hp after renntech pully and ECU.
That doesnt sound right.
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I'm absolutely positive you will have some really good gains if you combine software with your pulley upgrade. The smaller diameter pulley will change the dynamics of your S/C and air intake system, something which - with the addition of software - your car will actually recognize and benefit from. Just my $0.02.
On our cars we change the crankshaft pulley to a larger one,not the SC pulley to a smaller one.ECU tune isnt really a huge gain either.
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Originally Posted by Fast55
Just had K pulley installed on my '06 (finally), and the results were,,,,I'm going to say, strange. Evo did the resonator delete at the same time. I figure that makes about zero difference, just a touch more sound (I like it and it helps with the factory 72 mph "droning"). Bone stock down to the filters and it makes makes 10 RWHP more than any stock E55 ever dyno'd by Evo, 434.9/467.1 RW!! I lost power on the first 2 runs with the pulley, ultimately gaining about 2 RWHP and 20 lb/ft. I only had the pulley installed, and no ECU mods were done. I asked Cory before this was done and he confirmed that very little would be gained with software, maybe 5 hp. It's a little rich on top but how much of a difference could a ECU mod make?? Is it possible my ECU has decided this is the "limit" for my motor? It has had the latest flash updates and seemed completely un-affected, just as strong as always.
i'm confused, are you comparing your own pre and post dyno numbers or just your post dyno numbers with other cars?
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Originally Posted by phatmitzu
Maybe the stock ECU needs some time to adjust to the increased boost/airflow?
I say go beat on it for a week and try again !
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
i'm confused, are you comparing your own pre and post dyno numbers or just your post dyno numbers with other cars?
The graphs are stock for pulls 1 and 2. 3, 4, and 5 are after the pulley and resonator delete. That's all my car. Great power for a stocker, but no real gains either. It feels like it definitely picked up a step after the drive home, so maybe it's even more now. There was no time allowed for ECU adaptation so maybe that's the hot ticket. I guess I should be happy it was so strong to begin with. I wonder what Kleemann would say??
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That doesnt sound right.
why not????
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Originally Posted by ROCKETW19
why not????
My mistake,I misread it as 401hp and 447tq.Not 447hp....ooops.
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Now it's raining today and I can't get anymore adaptation miles on it!!

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