Video: Mercedes E55 AMG Kompressor vs BMW Alpina B5
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Not my video but this can't be right. pulling on an M6. No can't be
http://media.putfile.com/TT-and-M6-68
http://media.putfile.com/TT-and-M6-68
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Not my video but this can't be right. pulling on an M6. No can't be
http://media.putfile.com/TT-and-M6-68
http://media.putfile.com/TT-and-M6-68
No, wait, it's impossible; an M6 cannot be beaten!!! It must have had the parking brake on, been in the wrong gear, not in sport mode, had a 4,000 pound one-armed man as the driver, with a parachute, towing a battleship, four flat tires, with 50 octane gas!!!!
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Yes the M6 would have caught up ... if you noticed the run was very short. Give it 10 more miles and the M6 would have caught up and passed the porsche.
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Damn this is so transparent! all these newbies 
& preaching how great bmw is over AMG? kinda odd don't ya think
I think a mod should run some IP address traces, I have a strong feeling Gustav is running around town posting on various friends computers
& preaching how great bmw is over AMG? kinda odd don't ya think I think a mod should run some IP address traces, I have a strong feeling Gustav is running around town posting on various friends computers
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i'd like to know why the f*ck the brake lights are coming on in the viper!!! did anyone else notice that??? i'm sorry but no supercharged viper is going to get walked that bad by a lightly tuned m6.
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I ran a M6 with my old 96 viper that had only some basic bolt ons NOT a S/C
and the out come was alot different. And it was a freeway roll on.
Gustav , You might remember me. I use the same screen name here as i did on your site. If you have any members in the Phoenix area that want to do some testing with either my E63 or the Viper let me know. And it doesn't have to be from a dig.
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Its just like racing those pimple faced kids in their little Honda's,you get so far out front that you give up on them...then they fly past you like they just won a major championship!
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The lasty time I recall the M5's & M6's getting beat by the Z06 & F430. So they do lose some races. You just put the cars side by side & see what happens. There's no rigging. Why would owners of these cars be involved with stuff cr@p? These guys are all wealthy successf businesmen that own great cars form AMG's to Carrera GT's. Do they have nothing better to do than take part in rigged videos with their own cars?
And yeah, because a car is supercharged doesn't mean it's supercharged properly. We've all done some mods that didn;t work out as planned. Sometimes it takes a lot of work & tuning to get the mods to pay off.
And yeah, because a car is supercharged doesn't mean it's supercharged properly. We've all done some mods that didn;t work out as planned. Sometimes it takes a lot of work & tuning to get the mods to pay off.
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I cna take that. That Porsche pulls Enzp Ferraris as well.
But if you want to drag down the level of this discussion, go ahead
But if you want to drag down the level of this discussion, go ahead
+1,000,000,000
No, wait, it's impossible; an M6 cannot be beaten!!! It must have had the parking brake on, been in the wrong gear, not in sport mode, had a 4,000 pound one-armed man as the driver, with a parachute, towing a battleship, four flat tires, with 50 octane gas!!!!
No, wait, it's impossible; an M6 cannot be beaten!!! It must have had the parking brake on, been in the wrong gear, not in sport mode, had a 4,000 pound one-armed man as the driver, with a parachute, towing a battleship, four flat tires, with 50 octane gas!!!!
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Other cams lightly tuned?
That is a reflection and it is all the sun.
That is a reflection and it is all the sun.
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Yes, nice to see you!
It was actually a reflection.
It was actually a reflection.
+1 The Viper owner was on the brakes several times while leading the m6 even looking over.
I ran a M6 with my old 96 viper that had only some basic bolt ons NOT a S/C
and the out come was alot different. And it was a freeway roll on.
Gustav , You might remember me. I use the same screen name here as i did on your site. If you have any members in the Phoenix area that want to do some testing with either my E63 or the Viper let me know. And it doesn't have to be from a dig.
Robert
I ran a M6 with my old 96 viper that had only some basic bolt ons NOT a S/C
and the out come was alot different. And it was a freeway roll on.
Gustav , You might remember me. I use the same screen name here as i did on your site. If you have any members in the Phoenix area that want to do some testing with either my E63 or the Viper let me know. And it doesn't have to be from a dig.
Robert
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And why does Gustav claim that it was a "reflection"? It clearly wasn't a reflection, and I can't believe anybody on his board would believe his explanation. Maybe the guy accidently brushed against the pedal with his ankle?
Something isn't quite right.
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I think I figured it out, was the s/c on the viper the ebay electric one? I've asked several times to post specs and you ignore my posts. Your moderation staff moved my thread of an E55 smoking a M5 because I didnt provide "specs". At least I listed all the mods on the E55, you havent even done that. Hypocrit
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I seriously can consider that the viper was at such an aerodynamic disadvantage that a modified M6 might give it a run or even catch it at 250kph. But why did the viper hit the brakes twice (51 and 58 secs remaining)? If he is resting his left foot on the foot rest (Does the viper have one) or over the clutch, and his right foot is buried in the floorboard, how does he manage to hit the brakes - twice?
And why does Gustav claim that it was a "reflection"? It clearly wasn't a reflection, and I can't believe anybody on his board would believe his explanation. Maybe the guy accidently brushed against the pedal with his ankle?
Something isn't quite right.
And why does Gustav claim that it was a "reflection"? It clearly wasn't a reflection, and I can't believe anybody on his board would believe his explanation. Maybe the guy accidently brushed against the pedal with his ankle?
Something isn't quite right.
You know what I figured it out. I was the "reflection". The SUPERCHARGERD viper driver had the sun's "reflection" in this eyes so he hit the brake instead of the clutch. Mystery solved.
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It was a reflection. Just look howthe shadows are.
I seriously can consider that the viper was at such an aerodynamic disadvantage that a modified M6 might give it a run or even catch it at 250kph. But why did the viper hit the brakes twice (51 and 58 secs remaining)? If he is resting his left foot on the foot rest (Does the viper have one) or over the clutch, and his right foot is buried in the floorboard, how does he manage to hit the brakes - twice?
And why does Gustav claim that it was a "reflection"? It clearly wasn't a reflection, and I can't believe anybody on his board would believe his explanation. Maybe the guy accidently brushed against the pedal with his ankle?
Something isn't quite right.
And why does Gustav claim that it was a "reflection"? It clearly wasn't a reflection, and I can't believe anybody on his board would believe his explanation. Maybe the guy accidently brushed against the pedal with his ankle?
Something isn't quite right.
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Just as it is interesting how, whenever there is a new BMW M model ready to be released, like clockwork you guys suddenly start coming out of the woodwork. I'm sure that this is every bit as coincidental as the manner in which the races are conducted.
Why would owners of these cars be involved with stuff cr@p? These guys are all wealthy successf businesmen that own great cars form AMG's to Carrera GT's. Do they have nothing better to do than take part in rigged videos with their own cars?
And yeah, because a car is supercharged doesn't mean it's supercharged properly. We've all done some mods that didn;t work out as planned. Sometimes it takes a lot of work & tuning to get the mods to pay off.
And yeah, because a car is supercharged doesn't mean it's supercharged properly. We've all done some mods that didn;t work out as planned. Sometimes it takes a lot of work & tuning to get the mods to pay off.
Just another couple of interesting coincidences, as is always the case with Gustav's videos.
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Here is an analysis I did. It clearly shows that at 50km/h, the BMW M5 and M6 are a few hundred RPM *before* their torque peak, while the E55s are a few hundred rpm *past* their torque peak:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/169500-fun-math-how-relates-gustav-s-e55-m5-videos.html
Originally Posted by improviz
When this popped up on the grid recently, I puzzled over something: we know that Gustav has given several reasons for not performing standing-start races against the E55, but this begs a question: why start these races specifically at 50 km/h? Why not start them at 10, 20, 30, 40, or 60 km/h?
If you look at the speeds in gears of the M5/M5 and the engine's torque ratings, the why quickly becomes apparent.
The M5, in first gear, has a speed of 5.33 mph/1000 rpm. So, take 50 km/h, convert it to mph (31.25), divide it by 5.33, and you get 5,900 rpm.
Now, take a guess where the M5 engine's torque peak is. Answer: 6,100 rpm. This occurs at 32.5 mph, or 52 km/h. What a happy coincidence!
It gets better. The E55 has a speed of 7.46 mph/1000 rpm in first gear. It makes max torque from 2,650-4,500 rpm. So, torque starts dropping off after 4,500 rpm.
Guess what mph the E55 is travelling at 4,500 rpm? 33.57 mph, or 53.7 km/h.
Isn't that nice? Gustav just happened to start his races at the point in first gear where the E55's torque is dropping off, and the M5's is peaking.
Which is, I'm entirely sure, coincidental, and had absolutely nothing to do with his decision to begin the races from 50 km/h.
If you look at the speeds in gears of the M5/M5 and the engine's torque ratings, the why quickly becomes apparent.
The M5, in first gear, has a speed of 5.33 mph/1000 rpm. So, take 50 km/h, convert it to mph (31.25), divide it by 5.33, and you get 5,900 rpm.
Now, take a guess where the M5 engine's torque peak is. Answer: 6,100 rpm. This occurs at 32.5 mph, or 52 km/h. What a happy coincidence!
It gets better. The E55 has a speed of 7.46 mph/1000 rpm in first gear. It makes max torque from 2,650-4,500 rpm. So, torque starts dropping off after 4,500 rpm.
Guess what mph the E55 is travelling at 4,500 rpm? 33.57 mph, or 53.7 km/h.
Isn't that nice? Gustav just happened to start his races at the point in first gear where the E55's torque is dropping off, and the M5's is peaking.
Which is, I'm entirely sure, coincidental, and had absolutely nothing to do with his decision to begin the races from 50 km/h.
