1000 HP AMGs
#776
Rear mounts by themselves = FAIL
Last edited by Thericker; 05-06-2009 at 04:30 PM.
#777
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2006 Weistec 3.0L SC'd C55, 2006 MaxPsi PT6466 Turbo'd M3, 2019 Maserati GTS , 2020Alfa Quadrifoglio
Slow going...but still going
#778
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C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
#780
I like rear mounted turbo's. The fact that it has lag is the best part. Those fast spool guys just blow off their tires every time. StS style turbos build up like a NA engine...steady increase. Instant boost is nice--dont get me wrong--but 600lbs/ft of torque over 200rpm will just kill tires and diffs. On 1.5L or 2 L engine...instant boost is nice; but I pesonally find instant boost overated on big engines(vettes especially!). Ricker have you driven(or own ) an aps Vette?? The torque buildup is pretty dangerous(imho)
as far as this buildup.....I tell every young guy coming up...
UNLESS---you are building it YOURSELF...it will take twice as long and cost 3 times as much as what you "conservatively expect".
its like houses....be prepared to be frustrated if you're having it 'custom made'.....
Just buy one already done or close...
as far as this buildup.....I tell every young guy coming up...
UNLESS---you are building it YOURSELF...it will take twice as long and cost 3 times as much as what you "conservatively expect".
its like houses....be prepared to be frustrated if you're having it 'custom made'.....
Just buy one already done or close...
#781
Thericker & Project C55
Are you both serious?
No you guys are probably right. This GTO has tons of lag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZkIHi2FKR0
And this STS turboed GTO is clearly lame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGlXd2SU5pk
And this vette is definitely experiencing turbo lag. What was he thinking installing a remote mount turbo I mean my god if only he knew to both of you he could have saved himself so much money and just bought an old SL600 complete with turbos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm8PznzjngE
You know what guys I'm gonna stop because I can just keep going. I did come to one conclusion though.
Thericker = dumbazz
Are you both serious?
No you guys are probably right. This GTO has tons of lag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZkIHi2FKR0
And this STS turboed GTO is clearly lame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGlXd2SU5pk
And this vette is definitely experiencing turbo lag. What was he thinking installing a remote mount turbo I mean my god if only he knew to both of you he could have saved himself so much money and just bought an old SL600 complete with turbos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm8PznzjngE
You know what guys I'm gonna stop because I can just keep going. I did come to one conclusion though.
Thericker = dumbazz
#782
""as far as this buildup.....I tell every young guy coming up...
UNLESS---you are building it YOURSELF...it will take twice as long and cost 3 times as much as what you "conservatively expect".
its like houses....be prepared to be frustrated if you're having it 'custom made'.....
Just buy one already done or close..""
You don't want to go there.. Trust me..
I put in WAY MORE than 3Xs my "conservative expectation".. and Twice as long would have been 6 months.. how about 6Xs as long?
And, btw, I have been involved in 2 separate custom home constructions, living in my last one right now.. So I know that game too..Both went "slightly" over the time schedule, and both went "slightly" over the cost estimate.. Both of those are because I had "project creep" and I take responsibility for the "overages"
One thing to remember, THAT'S WHY YOU GO TO "Professionals" who can estimate the cost and schedule of your project with some degree of accuracy..
I used to be an engineer back in the day, for the Army.. I used to tell customers.. There is Cost, Schedule, and Performance/Quality.. Now Pick 2..
Think about it.. If you want ON BUDGET, and ON SCHEDULE, then you'd better be willing to accept lower quality or performance..
If you want Top Quality/Performance and ON Schedule, then you'd better be willing spend the money to make that happen..
If you want On Budget, and Top Performance/Quality, then you'd better be willing to accept Schedule slippage..
I had this conversation w Vadim.. I said COST and PERFORMANCE were my 2.. so I was somewhat understanding of the schedule slippage.. up to a point.. then it just gets ridiculous..
Then, to end up, 16 months over budget on time, and over budget on cost, AND still not get the performance...THAT my friend is the makings of a ClusterF***
UNLESS---you are building it YOURSELF...it will take twice as long and cost 3 times as much as what you "conservatively expect".
its like houses....be prepared to be frustrated if you're having it 'custom made'.....
Just buy one already done or close..""
You don't want to go there.. Trust me..
I put in WAY MORE than 3Xs my "conservative expectation".. and Twice as long would have been 6 months.. how about 6Xs as long?
And, btw, I have been involved in 2 separate custom home constructions, living in my last one right now.. So I know that game too..Both went "slightly" over the time schedule, and both went "slightly" over the cost estimate.. Both of those are because I had "project creep" and I take responsibility for the "overages"
One thing to remember, THAT'S WHY YOU GO TO "Professionals" who can estimate the cost and schedule of your project with some degree of accuracy..
I used to be an engineer back in the day, for the Army.. I used to tell customers.. There is Cost, Schedule, and Performance/Quality.. Now Pick 2..
Think about it.. If you want ON BUDGET, and ON SCHEDULE, then you'd better be willing to accept lower quality or performance..
If you want Top Quality/Performance and ON Schedule, then you'd better be willing spend the money to make that happen..
If you want On Budget, and Top Performance/Quality, then you'd better be willing to accept Schedule slippage..
I had this conversation w Vadim.. I said COST and PERFORMANCE were my 2.. so I was somewhat understanding of the schedule slippage.. up to a point.. then it just gets ridiculous..
Then, to end up, 16 months over budget on time, and over budget on cost, AND still not get the performance...THAT my friend is the makings of a ClusterF***
#783
Thericker & Project C55
Are you both serious?
No you guys are probably right. This GTO has tons of lag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZkIHi2FKR0
And this STS turboed GTO is clearly lame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGlXd2SU5pk
And this vette is definitely experiencing turbo lag. What was he thinking installing a remote mount turbo I mean my god if only he knew to both of you he could have saved himself so much money and just bought an old SL600 complete with turbos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm8PznzjngE
You know what guys I'm gonna stop because I can just keep going. I did come to one conclusion though.
I have a Bagina
Are you both serious?
No you guys are probably right. This GTO has tons of lag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZkIHi2FKR0
And this STS turboed GTO is clearly lame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGlXd2SU5pk
And this vette is definitely experiencing turbo lag. What was he thinking installing a remote mount turbo I mean my god if only he knew to both of you he could have saved himself so much money and just bought an old SL600 complete with turbos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm8PznzjngE
You know what guys I'm gonna stop because I can just keep going. I did come to one conclusion though.
I have a Bagina
No... no.... DON'T stop keep on going, ALL the way back to the SRT6 forums Beeehawtch Have you EVER driven 1 of the above models w/STS rear Turbo's? That's right answer is a big NO! All you have is a SLOW lil' bagina car & a bunch of spare time to post links from Youtube all night long...G'night Dorthy
Edit:Missed this part, so I have an old 2005 SL600 coming from a turd driving a 2005 MB hand me down parts Frankenstein CHIC-mobile You are certainly misguided an old C5 Vette w/STS, even if it was brand new cost far less than a 2005 SL600 when brand new, I have the window sticker would you like to see it? $138k fully loaded, you're a waste of space...
I found this excerpt from C&D completely sums up yourlil' car...
Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6 - Road Test
Chrysler gives its Crossfire a swift kick. You may need to bring a fanny cushion.
BY AARON ROBINSON
August 2004
The blended DNA of Daimler-Benz and Chrysler Corporation produced its first offspring in 2003, and hairdressers rejoiced.
Chrysler gives its Crossfire a swift kick. You may need to bring a fanny cushion.
BY AARON ROBINSON
August 2004
The blended DNA of Daimler-Benz and Chrysler Corporation produced its first offspring in 2003, and hairdressers rejoiced.
Last edited by Thericker; 05-07-2009 at 04:58 AM.
#784
No... no.... DON'T stop keep on going, ALL the way back to the SRT6 forums Beeehawtch Have you EVER driven 1 of the above models w/STS rear Turbo's? That's right answer is a big NO! All you have is a SLOW lil' bagina car & a bunch of spare time to post links from Youtube all night long...G'night Dorthy
Edit:Missed this part, so I have an old 2005 SL600 coming from a turd driving a 2005 MB hand me down parts Frankenstein CHIC-mobile You are certainly misguided an old C5 Vette w/STS, even if it was brand new cost far less than a 2005 SL600 when brand new, I have the window sticker would you like to see it? $138k fully loaded, you're a waste of space...
I found this excerpt from C&D completely sums up yourlil' car...
Edit:Missed this part, so I have an old 2005 SL600 coming from a turd driving a 2005 MB hand me down parts Frankenstein CHIC-mobile You are certainly misguided an old C5 Vette w/STS, even if it was brand new cost far less than a 2005 SL600 when brand new, I have the window sticker would you like to see it? $138k fully loaded, you're a waste of space...
I found this excerpt from C&D completely sums up yourlil' car...
To answer your question, not I haven't driven an STS equipped car, but judging by your obvious lack of driving skills you should keep your mouth shut when it comes to offering advice.
Anyway I could keep going but I'm not trying to convince you to stick with the car so once again.
Thericker = dumbazz
#785
Wow I must have hurt your ego there. Soft skin eh? Someone grab this guy another tampon!
To answer your question, not I haven't driven an STS equipped car, but judging by your obvious lack of driving skills you should keep your mouth shut when it comes to offering advice.
Anyway I could keep going but I'm not trying to convince you to stick with the car so once again.
Thericker = dumbazz
To answer your question, not I haven't driven an STS equipped car, but judging by your obvious lack of driving skills you should keep your mouth shut when it comes to offering advice.
Anyway I could keep going but I'm not trying to convince you to stick with the car so once again.
Thericker = dumbazz
#786
I like rear mounted turbo's. The fact that it has lag is the best part. Those fast spool guys just blow off their tires every time. StS style turbos build up like a NA engine...steady increase. Instant boost is nice--dont get me wrong--but 600lbs/ft of torque over 200rpm will just kill tires and diffs. On 1.5L or 2 L engine...instant boost is nice; but I pesonally find instant boost overated on big engines(vettes especially!). Ricker have you driven(or own ) an aps Vette?? The torque buildup is pretty dangerous(imho)
as far as this buildup.....I tell every young guy coming up...
UNLESS---you are building it YOURSELF...it will take twice as long and cost 3 times as much as what you "conservatively expect".
its like houses....be prepared to be frustrated if you're having it 'custom made'.....
Just buy one already done or close...
as far as this buildup.....I tell every young guy coming up...
UNLESS---you are building it YOURSELF...it will take twice as long and cost 3 times as much as what you "conservatively expect".
its like houses....be prepared to be frustrated if you're having it 'custom made'.....
Just buy one already done or close...
Last edited by Thericker; 05-07-2009 at 09:08 PM.
#787
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Joined: Dec 2005
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From: So Cal
2006 Weistec 3.0L SC'd C55, 2006 MaxPsi PT6466 Turbo'd M3, 2019 Maserati GTS , 2020Alfa Quadrifoglio
#788
Like wise
I guess you spent all your money on your car that you can't afford a QWERTY keyboard? Grow up texting like that is for little kiddies man.
So I guess there is truth to the statement, "More money then brains."
See I'd love to but you are keeping me busy at the counter!
Care to test my driving skills in ur Bagina-Mobile?
I have the window sticker would you like to see it? $138k fully loaded
San Diego isn't too far, I live in Santa Barbara, halfway would be LA, pm me when you have free time from your Tampon sales counter
#789
WOW, What the HELL is going on here? Some one is very unhappy with the shop/person that did work on his car RIGHT! Lets stay on track man...
We here need to stick together when it comes to stating when we find a shop we trust and ones we don't.. It does not do any good to hide the truth.. Now Lets get ready to RRRUUUMMMMBBBBLLLEEE.......
We here need to stick together when it comes to stating when we find a shop we trust and ones we don't.. It does not do any good to hide the truth.. Now Lets get ready to RRRUUUMMMMBBBBLLLEEE.......
#790
Like wise
I guess you spent all your money on your car that you can't afford a QWERTY keyboard? Grow up texting like that is for little kiddies man.
So I guess there is truth to the statement, "More money then brains."
See I'd love to but you are keeping me busy at the counter!
I guess you spent all your money on your car that you can't afford a QWERTY keyboard? Grow up texting like that is for little kiddies man.
So I guess there is truth to the statement, "More money then brains."
See I'd love to but you are keeping me busy at the counter!
WOW, What the HELL is going on here? Some one is very unhappy with the shop/person that did work on his car RIGHT! Lets stay on track man...
We here need to stick together when it comes to stating when we find a shop we trust and ones we don't.. It does not do any good to hide the truth.. Now Lets get ready to RRRUUUMMMMBBBBLLLEEE.......
We here need to stick together when it comes to stating when we find a shop we trust and ones we don't.. It does not do any good to hide the truth.. Now Lets get ready to RRRUUUMMMMBBBBLLLEEE.......
#791
I would not have the patience for one of these projects, you guys are better people than I am.
#792
Originally Posted by I Like Soup
Dude, when your argument breaks down in to a semantic debate or how someone spells...
Originally Posted by rarfinancial
WOW, What the HELL is going on here? Some one is very unhappy with the shop/person that did work on his car RIGHT! Lets stay on track man...
We here need to stick together when it comes to stating when we find a shop we trust and ones we don't.. It does not do any good to hide the truth.. Now Lets get ready to RRRUUUMMMMBBBBLLLEEE.......
We here need to stick together when it comes to stating when we find a shop we trust and ones we don't.. It does not do any good to hide the truth.. Now Lets get ready to RRRUUUMMMMBBBBLLLEEE.......
Last edited by msheredy; 05-08-2009 at 01:24 PM.
#793
#794
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From: Tampa, Florida
06 SL65 / 97 993tt /11 Suburban/ 2012 GTR (AMG è la mia Famiglia la Bestia è la mia protezione)
#795
#797
Yes.... so many people were hoping to see a 1000 hp AMG but I guess it won't happen this time around (at least not with this project). Maybe in the future someone will tackle this idea again
#798
I really can't believe that it's not possible, if you do cams, full headwork, a good ecu tune, some big injectors, a full intake, full exhaust (turboback), a good intercooler, and other small things, wouldn't it be possible? For god's sake, with an ECU tune alone, these things are good for almost 700 hp. Also, wouldn't there be more room for turbos with a new set of headers that allow low-mount turbos? I know it's extensive but isn't an STS style setup too?
#799
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Joined: Dec 2005
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From: So Cal
2006 Weistec 3.0L SC'd C55, 2006 MaxPsi PT6466 Turbo'd M3, 2019 Maserati GTS , 2020Alfa Quadrifoglio
#800
I really can't believe that it's not possible, if you do cams, full headwork, a good ecu tune, some big injectors, a full intake, full exhaust (turboback), a good intercooler, and other small things, wouldn't it be possible? For god's sake, with an ECU tune alone, these things are good for almost 700 hp. Also, wouldn't there be more room for turbos with a new set of headers that allow low-mount turbos? I know it's extensive but isn't an STS style setup too?