Are You Still Considered Stock If?
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So basically the car has to be on tires that came on the car from the factory?
So what tires come on the CLK BS from the factory? Maybe I can use those and be considered 100% stock
So what tires come on the CLK BS from the factory? Maybe I can use those and be considered 100% stock
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To be considered 100% stock, you need to run the car with exactly all the original equipment that came on the car. So original rims, tires (conti's), etc.....
But who cares if it's not 100% stock, even 95% stock is still awsome. I say bring your original wheels with stock tires, and your current rims with drag radials
That way, you'll have an idea of how much difference it made, and I garauntee you'll have a lot of fun in the process
But who cares if it's not 100% stock, even 95% stock is still awsome. I say bring your original wheels with stock tires, and your current rims with drag radials
That way, you'll have an idea of how much difference it made, and I garauntee you'll have a lot of fun in the process
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If you had no other modifications done on your ride, then you ran your car "stock on drag radials".
I don't run on Conti's, so I always make sure that people know I run bone stock on PS2's. And when I went wider than stock tires in the rear a few months ago (from 265's to 275's), I made sure that I noted that.
Drag radials (and even R Compound tires) can be a huge advantage, so it is tough to consider a run on drag radials to be a pure stock run. I say "can", because I have been able to pull consistent 1.71's and 1.72's on my PS2's, and I am not sure I would have done much better on DR's. But there is no way of knowing without trying.
I don't run on Conti's, so I always make sure that people know I run bone stock on PS2's. And when I went wider than stock tires in the rear a few months ago (from 265's to 275's), I made sure that I noted that.
Drag radials (and even R Compound tires) can be a huge advantage, so it is tough to consider a run on drag radials to be a pure stock run. I say "can", because I have been able to pull consistent 1.71's and 1.72's on my PS2's, and I am not sure I would have done much better on DR's. But there is no way of knowing without trying.
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If you had no other modifications done on your ride, then you ran your car "stock on drag radials".
I don't run on Conti's, so I always make sure that people know I run bone stock on PS2's. And when I went wider than stock tires in the rear a few months ago (from 265's to 275's), I made sure that I noted that.
Drag radials (and even R Compound tires) can be a huge advantage, so it is tough to consider a run on drag radials to be a pure stock run. I say "can", because I have been able to pull consistent 1.71's and 1.72's on my PS2's, and I am not sure I would have done much better on DR's. But there is no way of knowing without trying.
I don't run on Conti's, so I always make sure that people know I run bone stock on PS2's. And when I went wider than stock tires in the rear a few months ago (from 265's to 275's), I made sure that I noted that.
Drag radials (and even R Compound tires) can be a huge advantage, so it is tough to consider a run on drag radials to be a pure stock run. I say "can", because I have been able to pull consistent 1.71's and 1.72's on my PS2's, and I am not sure I would have done much better on DR's. But there is no way of knowing without trying.
I wonder if running a 35 series tire allows the sidewall to flex more than a 30 thus giving you some extra bite???
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No, once you do anything to the car its no longer considered stock. You can say "stock with drag radials"
Are you serious? My 60's SUCKED with street tires but when I switched to r comps and d/rs it dramatically improved. Do you turn traction control off?
Are you serious? My 60's SUCKED with street tires but when I switched to r comps and d/rs it dramatically improved. Do you turn traction control off?
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i've run with tc on and off and it's all the same when i'm at firebird. i'm hoping to make some runs at speedworld soon as their track prep is supposed to be much better than firebird's. if that's the case i'll expect some mid-low 1.6's with d/r's and then i can come back and corroborate your experience. if i still run 1.70-1.71's i'll know for sure that it's the ecu/tcu limiting power on launch.
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i've run with tc on and off and it's all the same when i'm at firebird. i'm hoping to make some runs at speedworld soon as their track prep is supposed to be much better than firebird's. if that's the case i'll expect some mid-low 1.6's with d/r's and then i can come back and corroborate your experience.
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i'm pretty new and not a drag racer, so be nice to me.
that said Mb cars can come from the factory with a number of different tyre choices ie pirelli, conti etc. which one of these is "stock"? if i replace the factory tyres with another brand not fitted from factory ie no name retreads (i know, i know but follow the example) is it still "stock"? is taking the spare tyre out "stock"? what if i order tyrefit from the factory and it never came with a physical spare tyre? is runnig it with 10L in the tank instead of full "stock"?
may i suggest stock is defined as summer tyres (ie no R compound, even if they are street legal) in your choice of brand, OEM size or equivalent??
thoughts?
that said Mb cars can come from the factory with a number of different tyre choices ie pirelli, conti etc. which one of these is "stock"? if i replace the factory tyres with another brand not fitted from factory ie no name retreads (i know, i know but follow the example) is it still "stock"? is taking the spare tyre out "stock"? what if i order tyrefit from the factory and it never came with a physical spare tyre? is runnig it with 10L in the tank instead of full "stock"?
may i suggest stock is defined as summer tyres (ie no R compound, even if they are street legal) in your choice of brand, OEM size or equivalent??
thoughts?
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What short time do you usually run with street tires? The d/rs and r comps require a BIG burnout to get them nice and sticky and make sure to decrease tire pressure. Jason is an expert on that stuff, my best time is when he set my tire pressure and helped me with the burnout. Let me know how it goes at the track.
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i totally agree. i consider any off the shelf true street compound dot tire to be stock...but that's just my worthless opinion.
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What qualifies as "bone stock" has been an age old argument amongst racers.IMO,100%bone stock is the way the car came off the dealers lot.Different tires(i.e.-stickier compound to aid traction)is considered a performance enhancing mod in the eyes of the street racing crowd in my area that I've known for the last 20yrs,as you now hold an advantage over a 100% bone stock vehicle and that's grounds for negotiation at the starting line.
Also,18" wheels are better for dragracing then 19"s,so switch back to them when you head out to race.
That being said,I would like to see if a stickier set of tires will give me the 1/10" I need to get into the 11's
Also,18" wheels are better for dragracing then 19"s,so switch back to them when you head out to race.
That being said,I would like to see if a stickier set of tires will give me the 1/10" I need to get into the 11's
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(i.e.-stickier compound to aid traction)is considered a performance enhancing mod in the eyes of the street racing ]
So if I use Drag Radials will I end up on the Mitchell Report
So if I use Drag Radials will I end up on the Mitchell Report
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stock engine with DR's... not bad 117. Where you able to duplicate this trap a few times?
The cool air really helps the 55k engine.
technically I have a stock pulley.. but it has a bigger ring around it. (j.k)
The cool air really helps the 55k engine.
technically I have a stock pulley.. but it has a bigger ring around it. (j.k)
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on the day that I went to the track I ran over 117 on 3 different runs on street tires. I also ran 3- 12.2's and 3-12.3's and 2-12.4's I only ran a 60' under 2.0 twice. 1.96 & 1.97 both of these runs ended up 12.25 & 12.26.
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What qualifies as "bone stock" has been an age old argument amongst racers.IMO,100%bone stock is the way the car came off the dealers lot.Different tires(i.e.-stickier compound to aid traction)is considered a performance enhancing mod in the eyes of the street racing crowd in my area that I've known for the last 20yrs,as you now hold an advantage over a 100% bone stock vehicle and that's grounds for negotiation at the starting line.
Also,18" wheels are better for dragracing then 19"s,so switch back to them when you head out to race.
That being said,I would like to see if a stickier set of tires will give me the 1/10" I need to get into the 11's
Also,18" wheels are better for dragracing then 19"s,so switch back to them when you head out to race.
That being said,I would like to see if a stickier set of tires will give me the 1/10" I need to get into the 11's
To be considered 100% stock means exactly as the term implies, 100% factory condition with no modifications or changes what so ever. So you'd pretty much have to run the car with all the equipment it had when it was shipped from the factory with no modifications at all. However, if you run on drag radials, then as Enzom suggested, you'd be considered "stock on drag radials" or if you run using different rims, then you'd be considered "stock on different rims". You are still considered somewhat stock, but just not 100% stock.
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OK so next time out I will have to follow up with what I have already run or beat it. I think I will beat it. In talking to Enzom I had my car set up wrong that day. I had my setting on C instead of S which could have cost me either at the start ,middle or end and my 19's are little heavier than the factory 18's. If can heat the stock conti's up and they prep the track and pump up my front tires to 40lbs I just might break into the 11.9x range
and my 19's are little heavier than the factory 18's. If can heat the stock conti's up and they prep the track and pump up my front tires to 40lbs I just might break into the 11.9x range
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OK so next time out I will have to follow up with what I have already run or beat it. I think I will beat it. In talking to Enzom I had my car set up wrong that day. I had my setting on C instead of S which could have cost me either at the start ,middle or end and my 19's are little heavier than the factory 18's. If can heat the stock conti's up and they prep the track and pump up my front tires to 40lbs I just might break into the 11.9x range
and my 19's are little heavier than the factory 18's. If can heat the stock conti's up and they prep the track and pump up my front tires to 40lbs I just might break into the 11.9x rangeDon't worry though, this time around (our next track rental), Adam will make sure we have adequate VHT and track prep. So whatever setup you choose to use, I'm sure 11.9x is on the horizon or maybe even 11.8x
Let the games begin........
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