Tunning Horrific Nightmare
02-06-2008, 05:43 PM
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Oliver is Evotech man! That is what we have been discussing here for 9 to 10 pgs.
I'd stick with Kleeman,or Renntech if you r talking about tuning your CLK430. I'm not sure if VRP would have a tune for your ar unless they refer you to powerchips. I feel Kleeman or Renntech would be the way to go for our older BoschME2.0 and 2.8 ECU cars.
I'd stick with Kleeman,or Renntech if you r talking about tuning your CLK430. I'm not sure if VRP would have a tune for your ar unless they refer you to powerchips. I feel Kleeman or Renntech would be the way to go for our older BoschME2.0 and 2.8 ECU cars.
02-06-2008, 05:46 PM
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I don't understand your point at all. Ballsy already asked EE for the same things he just posted, and got the "F**K you."
This thread was started because EE didn't take care of the OP.
Who cares if EE's previous customers came out of the closet and told everybody about EE frying their ECU's? That has absolutely NOTHING to do with EE rectifying the OP's problems.
If EE took care of the OP in the first place, all these stories from their previous customers would NOT have come out of the closet...............
This thread was started because EE didn't take care of the OP.
Who cares if EE's previous customers came out of the closet and told everybody about EE frying their ECU's? That has absolutely NOTHING to do with EE rectifying the OP's problems.
If EE took care of the OP in the first place, all these stories from their previous customers would NOT have come out of the closet...............
ballz this has nuttin to do with you I just dont get this guy!
02-06-2008, 05:56 PM
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Just For the Record: Can you please post which Dealer EXACTLY you bought it from? You stated A "100k Car", was the car Certified Etc... And your salesmans name, so we can verify. Just so we all know your statements are legit... It would have to be proven anyway in court.
And... I believe you stated that you had pictures of the front end before it was damaged, I may be mistaken... I have not scoured all the posts yet. If so... Can you also please post these pictures both before, and after the damage?
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02-06-2008, 06:13 PM
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Royd, are you judge Judy, if so I'll tell you all of this 
like I said before, this post isn't to prove anything to you, but just to share my experience, do you honestly think if it comes down to it, I will not provide such info, if requested by court, and if you don't think my statements are legit, than just don't believe me, and stay on ee side, your opinion irrelevant, due to the simple fact, that will only affect you from now on, you can come here and call me liar all you want, maybe for some sort of benefit towards you, but it still wont change what happened.
like I said before, this post isn't to prove anything to you, but just to share my experience, do you honestly think if it comes down to it, I will not provide such info, if requested by court, and if you don't think my statements are legit, than just don't believe me, and stay on ee side, your opinion irrelevant, due to the simple fact, that will only affect you from now on, you can come here and call me liar all you want, maybe for some sort of benefit towards you, but it still wont change what happened.
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02-06-2008, 06:17 PM
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Royd, are you judge Judy, if so I'll tell you all of this, like I said before, this post isn't to prove anything to you, but just to share my experience, do you honestly think if it comes down to it, I will not provide such info, if requested by court, and if you don't think my statements are legit, than just don't believe me, and stay on ee side, your opinion irrelevant, due to the simple fact, that will only affect from now on, you can come here and call me layer all you want, maybe for some sort of benefit towards you, but it still wont change what happened.
Sounds like somebody's sidesteping the Question! Come now... You don't want everyone to think you're a liar do you...
Still Waiting for the answer... What Dealer Cuz?
Best,
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02-06-2008, 06:20 PM
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RoydRage, you are trying to corner me with this sleezy tactic. What dealer and whats the salesman's name, WTF? Are you serious. What are you a private I? How about this, since you are so confident that my car is auction bought, and obviously EE is feeding you this crap, why don't you get this proof from EE and post it here. Knowing how hard you are defending EE, I would assume even if I were to disclose this info, you would probably come back and say this dealer sells all auction cars that are salvage. You are definitely not a bipartisan individual, to where this info would be helpful. I am not disclosing s--t to you. I am sick and tired of this. This is between us and EE, and believe you me, this info will be disclosed when necessary, and to the appropriate individuals, not some guy who requests it on a public forum. If you want, I can post my SSN, DL number, and anything else you need so you can run a background check on me, to see if I have a history of tuner scammings. PLEASE!!!!!
02-06-2008, 06:20 PM
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ECU tuning should ALWAYS be done in concert with a dyno, NO EXCEPTIONS.
Listening to your engine or taking the car for a test drive won't tell you where your A/F mixture is or whether your ECU is pulling timing all over the place. I've programmed and reprogrammed the AEM ECU on my Supra many times, and not once was it done without a trip to the dyno. There is no such thing as "plug and play" when it comes to the way your engine runs, too many variables, moving parts, and to much damn money involved.
Listening to your engine or taking the car for a test drive won't tell you where your A/F mixture is or whether your ECU is pulling timing all over the place. I've programmed and reprogrammed the AEM ECU on my Supra many times, and not once was it done without a trip to the dyno. There is no such thing as "plug and play" when it comes to the way your engine runs, too many variables, moving parts, and to much damn money involved.
+1,000,000,000This is wisdom from the Golden book that I live by!!!
It' the only tru way to tune a car! PERIOD!!!!!!
02-06-2008, 06:25 PM
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You’re telling me to worry about people thinking of me as a liar, sure why don't worry about what people think of you and you pathetic posts, think befor you post, try to make sense.
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02-06-2008, 06:30 PM
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RoydRage, you are trying to corner me with this sleezy tactic. What dealer and whats the salesman's name, WTF? Are you serious. What are you a private I? How about this, since you are so confident that my car is auction bought, and obviously EE is feeding you this crap, why don't you get this proof from EE and post it here. Knowing how hard you are defending EE, I would assume even if I were to disclose this info, you would probably come back and say this dealer sells all auction cars that are salvage. You are definitely not a bipartisan individual, to where this info would be helpful. I am not disclosing s--t to you. I am sick and tired of this. This is between us and EE, and believe you me, this info will be disclosed when necessary, and to the appropriate individuals, not some guy who requests it on a public forum. If you want, I can post my SSN, DL number, and anything else you need so you can run a background check on me, to see if I have a history of tuner scammings. PLEASE!!!!!
IMO, providing the before/after photos of the accident will only improve your case. If you do have the photos that show the damage that was done, you should definitely post it. BTW, this issue stopped being between just you and EE the moment you posted this on a public forum...
02-06-2008, 06:31 PM
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If you didn't buy you car from an Auction SIGHT UNSEEN...
Just For the Record: Can you please post which Dealer EXACTLY you bought it from? You stated A "100k Car", was the car Certified Etc... And your salesmans name, so we can verify. Just so we all know your statements are legit... It would have to be proven anyway in court. ...
Just For the Record: Can you please post which Dealer EXACTLY you bought it from? You stated A "100k Car", was the car Certified Etc... And your salesmans name, so we can verify. Just so we all know your statements are legit... It would have to be proven anyway in court. ...
You spent a lot of time attacking Veloce and now it appears you're pimpin' for EE.
Strange stuff.
02-06-2008, 06:33 PM
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This is NO Sleezy tactic... You have made a Statement that you bought your cars Certified from a Mercedes Benz Dealer.
I'm just asking you BACK IT UP. You made a lot of statements on this fourm that your cars are damaged not running right, etc... But you've backed not one of them up...
So WHO'S YOUR DEALER? TELL US... I have helped and cared for everyone on this forum... If you can really prove all your statements... I'll shut my Mouth!
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02-06-2008, 06:38 PM
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IMO, providing the before/after photos of the accident will only improve your case. If you do have the photos that show the damage that was done, you should definitely post it. BTW, this issue stopped being between just you and EE the moment you posted this on a public forum...
02-06-2008, 06:52 PM
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No it's not between you and EE... Cause for the last 3 days... You've brought all of us into it, with your post after post right? You've made this a Public Venue...
This is NO Sleezy tactic... You have made a Statement that you bought your cars Certified from a Mercedes Benz Dealer.
I'm just asking you BACK IT UP. You made a lot of statements on this fourm that your cars are damaged not running right, etc... But you've backed not one of them up...
So WHO'S YOUR DEALER? TELL US... I have helped and cared for everyone on this forum... If you can really prove all your statements... I'll shut my Mouth!
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This is NO Sleezy tactic... You have made a Statement that you bought your cars Certified from a Mercedes Benz Dealer.
I'm just asking you BACK IT UP. You made a lot of statements on this fourm that your cars are damaged not running right, etc... But you've backed not one of them up...
So WHO'S YOUR DEALER? TELL US... I have helped and cared for everyone on this forum... If you can really prove all your statements... I'll shut my Mouth!
RoydRage
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02-06-2008, 06:54 PM
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I will definitely post the pics. However you are correct, that my experience was intended to be shared on a public forum. However, why would I give RR the info of a dealer and salesman? He is obviously one-sided, and it would be silly to make him the researching/objective agent. And, he is asking this, to do his best to discredit us. The fact that EE has kept silent has shown that something did occur. If we are full of s--t, why not come out and say it
but I think EE's silence has already proven something bad has occured. The fact that I want EE to remedy my concerns and fix what they have damaged is between us and EE. The objective of the this thread was to share what has transpired, and to share my frustrations at being left high and dry. Thanks
but I think EE's silence has already proven something bad has occured. The fact that I want EE to remedy my concerns and fix what they have damaged is between us and EE. The objective of the this thread was to share what has transpired, and to share my frustrations at being left high and dry. Thanks
They are not responding because they have been advised not to...
You are damaging someones reputation, and potentially are cause them great damages through loss of income... And you just want everyone to believe you just cause you say so?!?
This has grown into something very serious...
So if you want to have credibilty... Then Prove what you said about buying your cars certified From a Mercedes Benz Dealer, and not SIGHT UNSEEN from an auction. Then maybe we can believe some of the other statements you've made.
This is not privialedged information... Just where you bought your car from Bro.
I fight for whats right, and slandering someone with no proof is WRONG!
Period.
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02-06-2008, 07:01 PM
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No...
They are not responding because they have been advised not to...
You are damaging someones reputation, and potentially are cause them great damages through loss of income... And you just want everyone to believe you just cause you say so?!?
This has grown into something very serious...
So if you want to have credibilty... Then Prove what you said about buying your cars certified From a Mercedes Benz Dealer, and not SIGHT UNSEEN from an auction. Then maybe we can believe some of the other statements you've made.
This is not privialedged information... Just where you bought your car from Bro.
I fight for whats right, and slandering someone with no proof is WRONG!
Period.
RoydRage
They are not responding because they have been advised not to...
You are damaging someones reputation, and potentially are cause them great damages through loss of income... And you just want everyone to believe you just cause you say so?!?
This has grown into something very serious...
So if you want to have credibilty... Then Prove what you said about buying your cars certified From a Mercedes Benz Dealer, and not SIGHT UNSEEN from an auction. Then maybe we can believe some of the other statements you've made.
This is not privialedged information... Just where you bought your car from Bro.
I fight for whats right, and slandering someone with no proof is WRONG!
Period.
RoydRage
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02-06-2008, 07:01 PM
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But do we know the exact and complete details behind each damaged car?
===> Let me know if you think this question is a representation of me defending EE/Adam/Evotech.
I don't know... so I can't comment.
Thanks for your concern... and yeah, I hope I won't be a victim.
But let me ask you this.... do you know that some people also got screwed from HPS S/C that you currently have on your R129? I remember that at least one member here went through a lot more hell than this EE drama due to HPS S/C.
Why do you still have it? If I guess correctly, because it works fine on your car.
Same logic applies to me... you got good experience w/ HPS, thus, you keep it. I got good experience w/ Evotech, thus, I keep it.
You may choose to keep using HPS, I may not.
You hope you don't get screwed by HPS in the future. Likewise, I hope I don't get screwed by Evotech in the future.
===> Let me know if you think this question is a representation of me defending EE/Adam/Evotech.
I don't know... so I can't comment.
Thanks for your concern... and yeah, I hope I won't be a victim.
But let me ask you this.... do you know that some people also got screwed from HPS S/C that you currently have on your R129? I remember that at least one member here went through a lot more hell than this EE drama due to HPS S/C.
Why do you still have it? If I guess correctly, because it works fine on your car.
Same logic applies to me... you got good experience w/ HPS, thus, you keep it. I got good experience w/ Evotech, thus, I keep it.
You may choose to keep using HPS, I may not.
You hope you don't get screwed by HPS in the future. Likewise, I hope I don't get screwed by Evotech in the future.
I know the HPS kit that's on Alex's car and believe me it's not that same kit that you know of originally from HPS.
Alex's kit has ton's of improvements that were done to it b4 it was even installed and they are top secret. They were not done by HPS. That is all I will tell you so please don't assume.
The way his car has been modded you could not even get or purchase the improvements done to it by HPS. Trust me!!!!
The things done to it are the things that should have been done and again that's top secret.
Leave this one alone ,it will own you and you r good people.
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02-06-2008, 07:07 PM
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if so, why don't YOU provide the attorney's name and address, just like you are asking the OP to provide salesperson and dealer info.
EE can hide behind their "we've been advised not to post anything" BS. I don't think they can even afford an attorney as they can't even pay to have one simple bumper fixed.
it's customers like you who actually make EE look worse in this situation.
02-06-2008, 07:11 PM
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and you know this for a fact?
if so, why don't YOU provide the attorney's name and address, just like you are asking the OP to provide salesperson and dealer info.
EE can hide behind their "we've been advised not to post anything" BS. I don't think they can even afford an attorney as they can't even pay to have one simple bumper fixed.
it's customers like you who actually make EE look worse in this situation.
if so, why don't YOU provide the attorney's name and address, just like you are asking the OP to provide salesperson and dealer info.
EE can hide behind their "we've been advised not to post anything" BS. I don't think they can even afford an attorney as they can't even pay to have one simple bumper fixed.
it's customers like you who actually make EE look worse in this situation.
02-06-2008, 07:55 PM
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IMO, providing the before/after photos of the accident will only improve your case. If you do have the photos that show the damage that was done, you should definitely post it. BTW, this issue stopped being between just you and EE the moment you posted this on a public forum...
I don't see the bumper hanging off of it...
02-06-2008, 07:55 PM
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Ballzy,
Why you continue to post on this thread is beyond me, you have stated your point. EE wont come here to defend themselves because the damage has been done by the 4 or 5 separate stories of various issues, some of which I have been intimately involved. I am one of the original member of this forum going back to 2001, as well I am a sponsor on 4 other webforums myself and I am of the opinion that nothing "more positive" can come from this thread being open. I move for this thread be closed.
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Why you continue to post on this thread is beyond me, you have stated your point. EE wont come here to defend themselves because the damage has been done by the 4 or 5 separate stories of various issues, some of which I have been intimately involved. I am one of the original member of this forum going back to 2001, as well I am a sponsor on 4 other webforums myself and I am of the opinion that nothing "more positive" can come from this thread being open. I move for this thread be closed.
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02-06-2008, 08:06 PM
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I agree, this thread is going the wrong way. If there are issues to be resolved handle them with the parties involved offline- thanks.
