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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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'09 C63 AMG
Pics: Composite v Stock rotors (P30 C63) and 63 Intake Manifold
A stock C63 rotor:



P30 C63 Composite (Al hub) rotor:



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Bottom of 63 Intake Manifold:



Close-up of 63 Intake Manifold Runner:




Honestly I can't feel any difference in the P30 rotors (same pads and only the front rotors are different) v the stockers. Maybe I would during back to back sessions while open tracking...
The intake manifold has very good casting quality overall. As you can see from the pics the intake is part composite, part Aluminum. We'll beging toying around with this one by the end of the week.

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Nice!! I can't believe the C63 doesn't have cross drilled composites to start with?? Anyhow, i looked into those 030 rotors and they are only about 5lbs (if that) lighter than the oem ones and I don't know about heat. I went with the EVOSport ones, but am having hardware issues. Makes me want a 1 piece setup again.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Nice!! I can't believe the C63 doesn't have cross drilled composites to start with?? Anyhow, i looked into those 030 rotors and they are only about 5lbs (if that) lighter than the oem ones and I don't know about heat. I went with the EVOSport ones, but am having hardware issues. Makes me want a 1 piece setup again.
I was surprised there wasn't more weight savings myself, still I'll take what I can get. Heat dissapation has to be better as well.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Heat dissapation has to be better as well.
i dont know about that !! i got my car e63 p30pkg with 9k miles and all four rotrs were warped , dealer said they were heated and thats why they warped !! i later found out this was the 3rd set on the car due to the same problem !!
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i dont know about that !! i got my car e63 p30pkg with 9k miles and all four rotrs were warped , dealer said they were heated and thats why they warped !! i later found out this was the 3rd set on the car due to the same problem !!
I had a porsche like that. Went through set after set of rotors. Some cars, dunno why, just do that
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i dont know about that !! i got my car e63 p30pkg with 9k miles and all four rotrs were warped , dealer said they were heated and thats why they warped !! i later found out this was the 3rd set on the car due to the same problem !!
By the way, the E63 P30 package does NOT include any brake upgrade. The brakes on a regular E63 are identical to one with the P30 package. However, it still doesn't explain the excessive warping
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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By the way, the E63 P30 package does NOT include any brake upgrade. The brakes on a regular E63 are identical to one with the P30 package. However, it still doesn't explain the excessive warping
That's good to hear lol.
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By the way, the E63 P30 package does NOT include any brake upgrade. The brakes on a regular E63 are identical to one with the P30 package. However, it still doesn't explain the excessive warping
i thought the difference was the same as shown above , the p30 front rotors are 2 piece with the aluminum hats and the reg e63 brakes were one piece no ???
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How warmed up did you get the ceramics when braking? You gotta put alot of heat through them to notice any difference, definitely some track driving would show a whole worlds difference.
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How warmed up did you get the ceramics when braking? You gotta put alot of heat through them to notice any difference, definitely some track driving would show a whole worlds difference.
nah not mee !! the dousche before me !! i got the car 3 weeks ago like that with 9500 miles on the clock !! im beginning to believe he was tracking this beast

since then i got all new brakes from local stealer , padds and rotors !!
now i hardly use the brakes cause im scared to screw them up , i do alot of downshifting to slow down !!
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Originally Posted by FThornton666
How warmed up did you get the ceramics when braking? You gotta put alot of heat through them to notice any difference, definitely some track driving would show a whole worlds difference.
Definitely not that much, just the drive home from the dealership (~15 miles). The hubs are aluminum with steel rotors btw, they aren't actually ceramic.

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i thought the difference was the same as shown above , the p30 front rotors are 2 piece with the aluminum hats and the reg e63 brakes were one piece no ???
Which of the two rotors above do yours (P30 E63) look like?

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Which of the two rotors above do yours (P30 E63) look like?

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the sexy one's of course !! with the alum hats !!
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the sexy one's of course !! with the alum hats !!
Gotcha, lol, now I'm worried.
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Gotcha, lol, now I'm worried.

yup mee too !! and those front rotors from the stealer are $920.00ea
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Seems aluminum hubs would be more prone to warping than iron. With little weight savings this upgrade is questionable. The rotor surface doesn't appear to be ceramic.
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LOL!! A few track days and suddenly the Atlanta crew starts the discussion all over again!
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