Dyno'd my stock E55 - Wow, you won't believe this.
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It's funny you both Markus and Jim arguing, yet locals 
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But in reality, dyno numbers mean absolutely nothing when compare one dyno machine to another. The only thing dyno numbers are valid, when comparing your own mods on the same machine (before and after) and see what actual gains are. The TRUE testing is 1/4 mile runs, especially when two cars with different numbers line up on the same track, same day, etc.
.But in reality, dyno numbers mean absolutely nothing when compare one dyno machine to another. The only thing dyno numbers are valid, when comparing your own mods on the same machine (before and after) and see what actual gains are. The TRUE testing is 1/4 mile runs, especially when two cars with different numbers line up on the same track, same day, etc.
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Hmmm, where should I begin? Chest pounding? I'll show you chest pounding!
I can tell you I did speak to two guys at Chicago Performance and they seemed like I was wasting ther time and had no answers for any of the questions I posed. Why don't you call them up and refresh their memory from about 6 weeks back, about the guy calling about a CF drive shaft. One guy did not even know what a Black Series was, I told him to go to the MBUSA web site. Do you think I make this stuff up?????? Give Me A F'in Break!
I can tell you I did speak to two guys at Chicago Performance and they seemed like I was wasting ther time and had no answers for any of the questions I posed. Why don't you call them up and refresh their memory from about 6 weeks back, about the guy calling about a CF drive shaft. One guy did not even know what a Black Series was, I told him to go to the MBUSA web site. Do you think I make this stuff up?????? Give Me A F'in Break!
No, I don't give myself gray hairs over this stuff, I just find myself spending more time explaining and defending my statements and mods because nobody beleives sh_t. I can understand people not believeing me 10 months ago when I was a newb, but come on, I have met probably over 30 guys from this forum in person at various events, meets and shows or just driving around town. I have backed up every statement I have ever made. I have time slips, witnesses and video proof of drag racing and road racing outings. If my car was not all it was craked up to be you guys would know it.
It's obvious you are a "Glass Half Empty" personality, sorry you have to go through life instantly doubting a person.
BTW: I'm not too impressed with their race rig, 
I don't even race (anymore) and I have a better set-up than that one, but hey, who's measuring d1ck length? I'll post up some pics of my 38ft Renegade Fun Mover and a 28ft Cargo Mate trailer later tonight or tomorrow (just in case you don't believe me).
I don't even race (anymore) and I have a better set-up than that one, but hey, who's measuring d1ck length? I'll post up some pics of my 38ft Renegade Fun Mover and a 28ft Cargo Mate trailer later tonight or tomorrow (just in case you don't believe me).
You really are quite an act. Do me a favor, take your self-centered egocentric agenda somewhere else, you aren't going to impress me.
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I'm sure he is a nice guy. I have nothing against Marcus, he voiced his opinions and feelings, I voiced mine. I've said it a hundred time before and I'll say it again, I just hate it when people try to call me out. If you guys have not noticed a pattern yet, everytime somebody tries calling me out on this forum it never works, I don't BS or pull any punches, I tell it how it is regardless of popular opinion. I could start a list of people that have tried calling me out on this forum, it would be a long list, but it would be a long list of people that were ultimately proven wrong...just like all the guys that said my car does not make 500hp. Just like all the guys that said my car nor any 63 could not run a sub 11.5 on motor or the guys that said a Porsche 997 GT2 would spank me on a road course. Lucky for you guys I am always up for a challenge. Have any of you guys seen me back down from one yet? Nope, and you never will. I might lose or crash or die trying, but I'm never gonna back down or bend over, especially when the challenges are coming from keyboard racers who hide behind their computer sometimes thousands of miles away. Hell, I've even offered to cart my azz half way across the country to meet a challenge...most of you know the outcome of that story.
See ya, and sorry for the hijack.
See ya, and sorry for the hijack.
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Ask him if he remembers this part of the conversation, the part where I told him I would love to find a reputable MB/Euro tuner in the Chicago area, because I am sick of always having to send my vehicles 2000 miles away to the east coast or west coast to get worked on.
....like I said, I don't make this stuff up.
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I lied, I'm not done with the hijacking. Marcus, please do fill me in on Al's "recollection" of our conversation? Was it the part where he did not know what a CLK Black Series was? Did he recall that, because that is what I remeber. Was it the part where he sounded like he was scratching his head when I mentioned a CF drive shaft? He sounded like he know absolutely nothing about MB's and as if he was not interested at all in my business. I'm not sure, maybe I got a bad read on him, but that was my take on our conversation.
Ask him if he remembers this part of the conversation, the part where I told him I would love to find a reputable MB/Euro tuner in the Chicago area, because I am sick of always having to send my vehicles 2000 miles away to the east coast or west coast to get worked on.
....like I said, I don't make this stuff up.
Ask him if he remembers this part of the conversation, the part where I told him I would love to find a reputable MB/Euro tuner in the Chicago area, because I am sick of always having to send my vehicles 2000 miles away to the east coast or west coast to get worked on.
....like I said, I don't make this stuff up.
I'm not going to participate with this banter anymore. If you honestly think that CPT doesn't know MBs or CF driveshafts or left from right or whatever you want to think, good for you. The rest of us who have done business with them know otherwise.
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Jim, I'm not going to act as some sort of mediator here. I said Al's recollection was different. He knows what a Black Series is, and he certainly knows what a CF driveshaft is. As a matter of fact, he noted that early model B5 A4s had CF driveshafts from the factory.
I'm not going to participate with this banter anymore. If you honestly think that CPT doesn't know MBs or CF driveshafts or left from right or whatever you want to think, good for you. The rest of us who have done business with them know otherwise.
-m
I'm not going to participate with this banter anymore. If you honestly think that CPT doesn't know MBs or CF driveshafts or left from right or whatever you want to think, good for you. The rest of us who have done business with them know otherwise.
-m
I sent you a PM
Now, back on topic
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It's not one of the big block 427 conversions, it's got the Magnuson charger, heads, cams, shorty type headers, cat delete, Corsa exhaust, LPE intake, LPE ECU, lightweight LPE aluminum flywheel, Katech short throw, Eibach springs, custom front and rear strut tower braces. 530hp at the wheels but slower than the Black Series in the quarter mile, I assume that is due to weight and the fact that it is a manual trans, it will not hook up in 1st at all, it is a very difficult car to launch and I have coil-overs and the rear sub-frame connectors (a must even on a stock V). Roll-ons are a different story, the V can sometimes pull the Black Series a little from 80-120, I think temp has a lot to do with it becasue sometimes the Black pulls the V in the same race.
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It's not one of the big block 427 conversions, it's got the Magnuson charger, heads, cams, shorty type headers, cat delete, Corsa exhaust, LPE intake, LPE ECU, lightweight LPE aluminum flywheel, Katech short throw, Eibach springs, custom front and rear strut tower braces. 530hp at the wheels but slower than the Black Series in the quarter mile, I assume that is due to weight and the fact that it is a manual trans, it will not hook up in 1st at all, it is a very difficult car to launch and I have coil-overs and the rear sub-frame connectors (a must even on a stock V). Roll-ons are a different story, the V can sometimes pull the Black Series a little from 80-120, I think temp has a lot to do with it becasue sometimes the Black pulls the V in the same race.
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I would agree with Fast55 on his assessment, however.
The dyno was off, or your car is modded. Either way, you were head-and-shoulders above the other cars at the dyno day.
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Op... Any chance you could post a pic of the signature plate on your engine. If your car can do what you say it can I think I want my next amg to be made by him.
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The plot thickens.....and ugh.....gets really bad and embarrassing.
First, the excuses. This was my first time at the track. I got there at 9am and found myself in line for 3 hours because it rained the night before and they had to dry the track. My temp on the car said about 68 degrees and it was a series a starting and stopping the car for those three hours...enventually letting it idle for 15 minutes before I ran.
My turn FINALLY came and I wanted to keep the car like I always drive it for my first run. Sport 2, S mode and the Contis at stock pressure, taction control OFF. Rolled around the water and no burn-out.
R/T: 1.241
60': 2.549
330: 6.058
1/8: 8.850 @ 88.22
1000: 11.24
1/4: 13.231 @ 112.98
Not only did I FAIL at launching (spun the tires, got off the throttle, got back on, let off, rolled in), and when I finally hooked up, the car just felt slower than normal.
Maybe a Johnson Pump in my future?
Eitherway, I didn't want to wait another hour for another run and was really disapointed, so I just left.
Sorry to dissapoint fellas. Back to the dyno for me.
First, the excuses.
This was my first time at the track. I got there at 9am and found myself in line for 3 hours because it rained the night before and they had to dry the track. My temp on the car said about 68 degrees and it was a series a starting and stopping the car for those three hours...enventually letting it idle for 15 minutes before I ran.My turn FINALLY came and I wanted to keep the car like I always drive it for my first run. Sport 2, S mode and the Contis at stock pressure, taction control OFF. Rolled around the water and no burn-out.
R/T: 1.241
60': 2.549
330: 6.058
1/8: 8.850 @ 88.22
1000: 11.24
1/4: 13.231 @ 112.98
Not only did I FAIL at launching (spun the tires, got off the throttle, got back on, let off, rolled in), and when I finally hooked up, the car just felt slower than normal.
Maybe a Johnson Pump in my future?Eitherway, I didn't want to wait another hour for another run and was really disapointed, so I just left.
Sorry to dissapoint fellas. Back to the dyno for me.
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You still think the dyno you originally had was accurate? Come on man, from the first post everyone knew the numbers were WAAYYY wrong. Just come to grips with it and enjoy your car
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The plot thickens.....and ugh.....gets really bad and embarrassing.
First, the excuses. This was my first time at the track. I got there at 9am and found myself in line for 3 hours because it rained the night before and they had to dry the track. My temp on the car said about 68 degrees and it was a series a starting and stopping the car for those three hours...enventually letting it idle for 15 minutes before I ran.
My turn FINALLY came and I wanted to keep the car like I always drive it for my first run. Sport 2, S mode and the Contis at stock pressure, taction control OFF. Rolled around the water and no burn-out.
R/T: 1.241
60': 2.549
330: 6.058
1/8: 8.850 @ 88.22
1000: 11.24
1/4: 13.231 @ 112.98
Not only did I FAIL at launching (spun the tires, got off the throttle, got back on, let off, rolled in), and when I finally hooked up, the car just felt slower than normal. Maybe a Johnson Pump in my future?
Eitherway, I didn't want to wait another hour for another run and was really disapointed, so I just left.
Sorry to dissapoint fellas. Back to the dyno for me.
First, the excuses.
This was my first time at the track. I got there at 9am and found myself in line for 3 hours because it rained the night before and they had to dry the track. My temp on the car said about 68 degrees and it was a series a starting and stopping the car for those three hours...enventually letting it idle for 15 minutes before I ran.My turn FINALLY came and I wanted to keep the car like I always drive it for my first run. Sport 2, S mode and the Contis at stock pressure, taction control OFF. Rolled around the water and no burn-out.
R/T: 1.241
60': 2.549
330: 6.058
1/8: 8.850 @ 88.22
1000: 11.24
1/4: 13.231 @ 112.98
Not only did I FAIL at launching (spun the tires, got off the throttle, got back on, let off, rolled in), and when I finally hooked up, the car just felt slower than normal.
Maybe a Johnson Pump in my future?Eitherway, I didn't want to wait another hour for another run and was really disapointed, so I just left.
Sorry to dissapoint fellas. Back to the dyno for me.
