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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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Racing 60-130 mph?

What is a good benchmark for the 60-130mph on our cars? One of our tracks has this style of race format once a month or so.. Here is how it works..

What is 60-130?
60-130 is a track event where cars are equipped with VBox GPS-based accelerometers that measure acceleration from 60 to 130 mph. Drivers and cars run single lane down the dragstrip and start accelerating from a roll at about 40 mph and then let out at just over 130 mph. Then the data chip in the VBox is removed and the time from 60-130 mph is measured and given to the driver.
Who can compete in 60-130 events?
Any car or driver can complete as long as they have a car that is at least a mid to low 12 second 1/4 mile car. Cars running slower than this will not be able to get to 130 mph before its time to slow down on the track.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Exotic-metal55
Cars running slower than this will not be able to get to 130 mph before its time to slow down on the track.



I dont know what a typical 60-130 run on our cars would yield. Would be interesting. P cars and some BMW's have been doing this for a while
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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You guys must have one heck of a track to be able to take those measurements. I assume that it starts at a static 60, as opposed to accelerating from rest and measuring the time under full acceleration.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by enzom
You guys must have one heck of a track to be able to take those measurements. I assume that it starts at a static 60, as opposed to accelerating from rest and measuring the time under full acceleration.
The Vbox does the measuring not any track sensors. You can buy a Vbox and do this on the street if you wanted to. Its legal at the track though. I would try it out if the local track did something like this It is not a static 60mph either. You start accelerating before 60mph. Vbox is GPS based
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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That's an interesting race format. While I don't have a benchmark for you, I can tell you that our blown Benzes excel at this!
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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I know you start from a 40 mph roll .. This track was bought out and competly re-done by Hennessy motorsports a while back.. They have a road course, 1/4 mile and 60-130 mph racing.. I have not raced there , since it was re-formated.. I am just looking for an idea of what our cars may run.. I don`t have a clue.. I know people have these races on our freeways all the time but I have stayed out of that for a ton of reasons . Legal, sounds pretty cool though..

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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6speed member, Acicchelli, got 10.93s on his stock E63. A C63 with headers and tune, 10.48s.

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Achiccelli also got a 7.48 60-130 for his RENNtech SL65

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vegastrashed
6speed member, Acicchelli, got 10.93s on his stock E63. A C63 with headers and tune, 10.48s.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...standings.html
Maybe I'm not understanding this but why would it take a stock E63 10.48 seconds to go 60-130mph? My car can go 0-127.7 in 11.1 seconds, probably 0-130 in 12.00 seconds, my car is quick but it aint doing 0-60mph in 2.5 seconds.
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Maybe I'm not understanding this but why would it take a stock E63 10.48 seconds to go 60-130mph? My car can go 0-127.7 in 11.1 seconds, probably 0-130 in 12.00 seconds, my car is quick but it aint doing 0-60mph in 2.5 seconds.
You are modded, spraying nitrous, and weight modifications. It was also done on a sticky track with sticky tires. Your car actually might do 0-60 in less than 2.5s on the track with the tires and track prep.

Check this out and enter your 60' time. Prepare to be amazed!

http://www.wallaceracing.com/60-footmph.php

My car 0-52.79mph in 1.55s according to that calculator
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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You are modded, spraying nitrous, and weight modifications. It was also done on a sticky track with sticky tires. Your car actually might do 0-60 in less than 2.5s on the track with the tires and track prep.

Check this out and enter your 60' time. Prepare to be amazed!

http://www.wallaceracing.com/60-footmph.php

My car 0-52.79mph in 1.55s according to that calculator
I am amazed...my 60ft mph is 49.29 mph, pretty cool calculator
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
You are modded, spraying nitrous, and weight modifications. It was also done on a sticky track with sticky tires. Your car actually might do 0-60 in less than 2.5s on the track with the tires and track prep.

Check this out and enter your 60' time. Prepare to be amazed!

http://www.wallaceracing.com/60-footmph.php

My car 0-52.79mph in 1.55s according to that calculator
A buddy gave me a pretty good calculator in Excel using a regression model to calculate 0-60 acceleration using 60', 330' and 1/8 mile times. It spits out 0-60mph time, 0-60mph distance and calculated 1/8 mile speed. It was pretty accurate.

I can plug it in and post the results if you give me the 60', 330' and 1/8th mile times.

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
A buddy gave me a pretty good calculator in Excel using a regression model to calculate 0-60 acceleration using 60', 330' and 1/8 mile times. It spits out 0-60mph time, 0-60mph distance and calculated 1/8 mile speed. It was pretty accurate.

I can plug it in and post the results if you give me the 60', 330' and 1/8th mile times.

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60'.....1.663

330'....4.677

1/8.....7.209
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
A buddy gave me a pretty good calculator in Excel using a regression model to calculate 0-60 acceleration using 60', 330' and 1/8 mile times. It spits out 0-60mph time, 0-60mph distance and calculated 1/8 mile speed. It was pretty accurate.

I can plug it in and post the results if you give me the 60', 330' and 1/8th mile times.

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Cool thanks! I dont have my passes with the CCW's with me so I guess I can just use the one I have uploaded as a ballpark number.

60' ..... 1.625
330' .... 4.622
1/8 .... 7.143
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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I have done 60-120 in 7.60 and 60-140 in 11.6 in 38deg dry weather. 0-130 would be somewhere around 9.3.
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WOw, I did not realize other forums kept track of this time.. I just found the list below, so have a pretty good idea now.. Or at least what to shoot for..

GPS based performance accelerometer times (Drift Box or Performance Box)

PLEASE NOTE: Only GPS based, data-logger times from either Drift Box, Performance Box or V-Box units will be accepted for this list. No extrapolated times from 1/4 mile time-slips.

Also, all submitted data must be reviewed for accuracy and approved by me before the time is posted. Simply attach the data off of the Drift Box/Performance Box SD card and email it to me at divexxtreme@hotmail.com . When I have time, I will review the data and let you know the results.

Please note; all submissions that show greater than a 3% downhill slope over the course of the run will not be accepted. If there are errors or if I find other problems with the data, it will not be posted as an official time.

Also, I won’t be posting HP numbers in this list. From personal experience, it creates more problems than it’s worth. If you want to find out the estimated and/or dyno’d HP of a car in the list, you will have to do a search.

The below list can include any BMW vehicle that belongs to any member of this forum.

60 -130 mph (96.5-209.2 kph):
Time – Username / Car / NA-TC-SC / # of shifts

6.07 - M&M / E30 325is / TC / 1 shift
6.43 - RaceMX-M3 / E46 M3 / TC / 1 shift
6.86 - ST06M3 / E46 M3 / TC / 1 shift
8.59 – Dr Jitsu / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift
8.67 - DLSJ5 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts
9.08 - hiboostingm3 / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts
9.66 - Fanatic7 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts
9.87 - Mspired / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift
10.3 - Stock M6 / 2 shifts
10.4 - RaceMX-M3 / Stock E60 M5 / 2 shifts
10.5 - fivaxis / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts
11.0 - slcook54 / E36 M3 / TC / 3 shifts
11.2 - M&M / Chipped 335i / 1 shift
12.9 - 05SCM3 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts
12.9 - Stock E92 M3 Coupe
13.7 - IDZ21 / Stock E46 M3 (freak car) / 1 shift
14.3 - hiboostingm3 / Stock E39 M5 / 1 shift

For the sake of comparison, here are some 60-130 times for other fast street and production vehicles:

NOTE: Only the below runs with an asterisk (*) next to them have been verified. The accuracy of the other runs can not be guaranteed.

3.9*900+ rwhp Supra, 88mm turbo, 30 psi, TH400 Auto, ET Drags
4.74*996TT 890 rwhp, Divexxtreme 2-shifts
4.9 - 940 rwhp Supra (35 psi)
5.1 - 840 rwhp Supra (30 psi)
5.4 - 1,000 rwhp TT Viper
5.6 - Bugatti Veyron (estimate based off of verified 100 - 200kph time of 4.8)
5.9 - GSXR 1000 with bolt-ons
5.98*C5 Vette with big motor and NOS
6.1 - Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
6.69*Dr. Jitsu / 996 GT2 / 700 crank HP / 1-shift
6.9 - Mosler MT900S
7.0 - Ferrari Enzo
7.24 - Mercedes SLR McLaren
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT
7.56*C5 Z06TT (APS Turbo, no cats, stock muffler, 573 rwhp @ 9.5 psi) / 1 shift
7.73*997TT with ECU flash / 2 shifts
7.86*Corvette C6 Z06, stock, Divexxtreme / 2 shifts)
8.07*Lamborghini LP640 / 2 shifts
8.86*Stock 997TT / 32 degrees, Tiptronic (0 shifts)
9.10*993 Ruf R Turbo 490 HP / 2 shifts
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.5 - Ferrari F430
9.6 - Ferrari F50
10.06*996TT with ECU flash / 1 shift
10.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale
12.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo
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Originally Posted by Exotic-metal55
WOw, I did not realize other forums kept track of this time.. I just found the list below, so have a pretty good idea now.. Or at least what to shoot for..

GPS based performance accelerometer times (Drift Box or Performance Box)

PLEASE NOTE: Only GPS based, data-logger times from either Drift Box, Performance Box or V-Box units will be accepted for this list. No extrapolated times from 1/4 mile time-slips.

Also, all submitted data must be reviewed for accuracy and approved by me before the time is posted. Simply attach the data off of the Drift Box/Performance Box SD card and email it to me at divexxtreme@hotmail.com . When I have time, I will review the data and let you know the results.

Please note; all submissions that show greater than a 3% downhill slope over the course of the run will not be accepted. If there are errors or if I find other problems with the data, it will not be posted as an official time.

Also, I won’t be posting HP numbers in this list. From personal experience, it creates more problems than it’s worth. If you want to find out the estimated and/or dyno’d HP of a car in the list, you will have to do a search.

The below list can include any BMW vehicle that belongs to any member of this forum.

60 -130 mph (96.5-209.2 kph):
Time – Username / Car / NA-TC-SC / # of shifts

6.07 - M&M / E30 325is / TC / 1 shift
6.43 - RaceMX-M3 / E46 M3 / TC / 1 shift
6.86 - ST06M3 / E46 M3 / TC / 1 shift
8.59 – Dr Jitsu / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift
8.67 - DLSJ5 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts
9.08 - hiboostingm3 / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts
9.66 - Fanatic7 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts
9.87 - Mspired / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift
10.3 - Stock M6 / 2 shifts
10.4 - RaceMX-M3 / Stock E60 M5 / 2 shifts
10.5 - fivaxis / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts
11.0 - slcook54 / E36 M3 / TC / 3 shifts
11.2 - M&M / Chipped 335i / 1 shift
12.9 - 05SCM3 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts
12.9 - Stock E92 M3 Coupe
13.7 - IDZ21 / Stock E46 M3 (freak car) / 1 shift
14.3 - hiboostingm3 / Stock E39 M5 / 1 shift

For the sake of comparison, here are some 60-130 times for other fast street and production vehicles:

NOTE: Only the below runs with an asterisk (*) next to them have been verified. The accuracy of the other runs can not be guaranteed.

3.9*900+ rwhp Supra, 88mm turbo, 30 psi, TH400 Auto, ET Drags
4.74*996TT 890 rwhp, Divexxtreme 2-shifts
4.9 - 940 rwhp Supra (35 psi)
5.1 - 840 rwhp Supra (30 psi)
5.4 - 1,000 rwhp TT Viper
5.6 - Bugatti Veyron (estimate based off of verified 100 - 200kph time of 4.8)
5.9 - GSXR 1000 with bolt-ons
5.98*C5 Vette with big motor and NOS
6.1 - Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
6.69*Dr. Jitsu / 996 GT2 / 700 crank HP / 1-shift
6.9 - Mosler MT900S
7.0 - Ferrari Enzo
7.24 - Mercedes SLR McLaren
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT
7.56*C5 Z06TT (APS Turbo, no cats, stock muffler, 573 rwhp @ 9.5 psi) / 1 shift
7.73*997TT with ECU flash / 2 shifts
7.86*Corvette C6 Z06, stock, Divexxtreme / 2 shifts)
8.07*Lamborghini LP640 / 2 shifts
8.86*Stock 997TT / 32 degrees, Tiptronic (0 shifts)
9.10*993 Ruf R Turbo 490 HP / 2 shifts
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.5 - Ferrari F430
9.6 - Ferrari F50
10.06*996TT with ECU flash / 1 shift
10.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale
12.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo
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WOW I did not realize that the M guys were doing this! I know that our blown V8's would walk ALOT of cars out there.... Us chicago guys have to wait until spring to try it though...
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1. A Vbox is too expensive. Most of these runs are done with a PBox. Same company, different model. - OK, I see you note it in the second post
2. Given the times posted on the list seems like these had to be done on a >1/4mile "track". Ya think!?
3. I think I have some old data before my software was updated by the manufacturer - I would be faster now. I will post it whan I get home.

One more thing to think about. This is raw GPS data. Not only is it saying how fast, it is saying where you were going that fast. I think I will plead the 5th?

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WOW, what the hell is the guy with the 325i got done to his car...14 turbos or something?
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WOW, what the hell is the guy with the 325i got done to his car...14 turbos or something?
All you need is one.
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Here is a 60-130mph (8.45s) I ran a couple of weeks ago. I will be using my pbox at the next MIR rental (hopefully on Wednesday). It will be interesting to measure some more GPS based 1/8 and 1/4 mile times and traps compared to the timing equipment.

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