Exotic-metal55

What is a good benchmark for the 60-130mph on our cars? One of our tracks has this style of race format once a month or so.. Here is how it works..

What is 60-130?
60-130 is a track event where cars are equipped with VBox GPS-based accelerometers that measure acceleration from 60 to 130 mph. Drivers and cars run single lane down the dragstrip and start accelerating from a roll at about 40 mph and then let out at just over 130 mph. Then the data chip in the VBox is removed and the time from 60-130 mph is measured and given to the driver.
Who can compete in 60-130 events?
Any car or driver can complete as long as they have a car that is at least a mid to low 12 second 1/4 mile car. Cars running slower than this will not be able to get to 130 mph before its time to slow down on the track.

blackbenzz

I dont know what a typical 60-130 run on our cars would yield. Would be interesting. P cars and some BMW's have been doing this for a while

enzom

You guys must have one heck of a track to be able to take those measurements. I assume that it starts at a static 60, as opposed to accelerating from rest and measuring the time under full acceleration.

MHP

BMW owners love their VBoxes.

blackbenzz

The Vbox does the measuring not any track sensors. You can buy a Vbox and do this on the street if you wanted to. Its legal at the track though. I would try it out if the local track did something like this It is not a static 60mph either. You start accelerating before 60mph. Vbox is GPS based

Blacksport350

That's an interesting race format. While I don't have a benchmark for you, I can tell you that our blown Benzes excel at this!

Exotic-metal55

I know you start from a 40 mph roll .. This track was bought out and competly re-done by Hennessy motorsports a while back.. They have a road course, 1/4 mile and 60-130 mph racing.. I have not raced there , since it was re-formated.. I am just looking for an idea of what our cars may run.. I don`t have a clue.. I know people have these races on our freeways all the time but I have stayed out of that for a ton of reasons . Legal, sounds pretty cool though..

http://www.lonestarmotorsportspark.com/page.php?id=65

vegastrashed

6speed member, Acicchelli, got 10.93s on his stock E63. A C63 with headers and tune, 10.48s.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...standings.html

TMC M5

Achiccelli also got a 7.48 60-130 for his RENNtech SL65

Tom

jrcart

Maybe I'm not understanding this but why would it take a stock E63 10.48 seconds to go 60-130mph? My car can go 0-127.7 in 11.1 seconds, probably 0-130 in 12.00 seconds, my car is quick but it aint doing 0-60mph in 2.5 seconds.

blackbenzz

You are modded, spraying nitrous, and weight modifications. It was also done on a sticky track with sticky tires. Your car actually might do 0-60 in less than 2.5s on the track with the tires and track prep.

Check this out and enter your 60' time. Prepare to be amazed!

http://www.wallaceracing.com/60-footmph.php

My car 0-52.79mph in 1.55s according to that calculator

jrcart

I am amazed...my 60ft mph is 49.29 mph, pretty cool calculator

TMC M5

A buddy gave me a pretty good calculator in Excel using a regression model to calculate 0-60 acceleration using 60', 330' and 1/8 mile times. It spits out 0-60mph time, 0-60mph distance and calculated 1/8 mile speed. It was pretty accurate.

I can plug it in and post the results if you give me the 60', 330' and 1/8th mile times.

Tom

jrcart

60'.....1.663

330'....4.677

1/8.....7.209

blackbenzz

Cool thanks! I dont have my passes with the CCW's with me so I guess I can just use the one I have uploaded as a ballpark number.

60' ..... 1.625
330' .... 4.622
1/8 .... 7.143

TMC M5

Here you go:

blackbenzz

Wow, thats pretty cool! Thanks!!!

Wryfox

I have done 60-120 in 7.60 and 60-140 in 11.6 in 38deg dry weather. 0-130 would be somewhere around 9.3.

Exotic-metal55

WOw, I did not realize other forums kept track of this time.. I just found the list below, so have a pretty good idea now.. Or at least what to shoot for..

GPS based performance accelerometer times (Drift Box or Performance Box)

PLEASE NOTE: Only GPS based, data-logger times from either Drift Box, Performance Box or V-Box units will be accepted for this list. No extrapolated times from 1/4 mile time-slips.

Also, all submitted data must be reviewed for accuracy and approved by me before the time is posted. Simply attach the data off of the Drift Box/Performance Box SD card and email it to me at divexxtreme@hotmail.com . When I have time, I will review the data and let you know the results.

Please note; all submissions that show greater than a 3% downhill slope over the course of the run will not be accepted. If there are errors or if I find other problems with the data, it will not be posted as an official time.

Also, I won’t be posting HP numbers in this list. From personal experience, it creates more problems than it’s worth. If you want to find out the estimated and/or dyno’d HP of a car in the list, you will have to do a search.

The below list can include any BMW vehicle that belongs to any member of this forum.

60 -130 mph (96.5-209.2 kph):
Time – Username / Car / NA-TC-SC / # of shifts

6.07 - M&M / E30 325is / TC / 1 shift
6.43 - RaceMX-M3 / E46 M3 / TC / 1 shift
6.86 - ST06M3 / E46 M3 / TC / 1 shift
8.59 – Dr Jitsu / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift
8.67 - DLSJ5 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts
9.08 - hiboostingm3 / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts
9.66 - Fanatic7 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts
9.87 - Mspired / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift
10.3 - Stock M6 / 2 shifts
10.4 - RaceMX-M3 / Stock E60 M5 / 2 shifts
10.5 - fivaxis / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts
11.0 - slcook54 / E36 M3 / TC / 3 shifts
11.2 - M&M / Chipped 335i / 1 shift
12.9 - 05SCM3 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts
12.9 - Stock E92 M3 Coupe
13.7 - IDZ21 / Stock E46 M3 (freak car) / 1 shift
14.3 - hiboostingm3 / Stock E39 M5 / 1 shift

For the sake of comparison, here are some 60-130 times for other fast street and production vehicles:

NOTE: Only the below runs with an asterisk (*) next to them have been verified. The accuracy of the other runs can not be guaranteed.

3.9*900+ rwhp Supra, 88mm turbo, 30 psi, TH400 Auto, ET Drags
4.74*996TT 890 rwhp, Divexxtreme 2-shifts
4.9 - 940 rwhp Supra (35 psi)
5.1 - 840 rwhp Supra (30 psi)
5.4 - 1,000 rwhp TT Viper
5.6 - Bugatti Veyron (estimate based off of verified 100 - 200kph time of 4.8)
5.9 - GSXR 1000 with bolt-ons
5.98*C5 Vette with big motor and NOS
6.1 - Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
6.69*Dr. Jitsu / 996 GT2 / 700 crank HP / 1-shift
6.9 - Mosler MT900S
7.0 - Ferrari Enzo
7.24 - Mercedes SLR McLaren
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT
7.56*C5 Z06TT (APS Turbo, no cats, stock muffler, 573 rwhp @ 9.5 psi) / 1 shift
7.73*997TT with ECU flash / 2 shifts
7.86*Corvette C6 Z06, stock, Divexxtreme / 2 shifts)
8.07*Lamborghini LP640 / 2 shifts
8.86*Stock 997TT / 32 degrees, Tiptronic (0 shifts)
9.10*993 Ruf R Turbo 490 HP / 2 shifts
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.5 - Ferrari F430
9.6 - Ferrari F50
10.06*996TT with ECU flash / 1 shift
10.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale
12.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo
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aleksandar1099

WOW I did not realize that the M guys were doing this! I know that our blown V8's would walk ALOT of cars out there.... Us chicago guys have to wait until spring to try it though...

Jon2007E63P30

1. A Vbox is too expensive. Most of these runs are done with a PBox. Same company, different model. - OK, I see you note it in the second post
2. Given the times posted on the list seems like these had to be done on a >1/4mile "track". Ya think!?
3. I think I have some old data before my software was updated by the manufacturer - I would be faster now. I will post it whan I get home.

One more thing to think about. This is raw GPS data. Not only is it saying how fast, it is saying where you were going that fast. I think I will plead the 5th?

jrcart

WOW, what the hell is the guy with the 325i got done to his car...14 turbos or something?

blackbenzz

All you need is one.

Jon2007E63P30

Stock E63
12.8 seconds
13.2ft increase in height

Would go faster now

TMC M5

Here is a 60-130mph (8.45s) I ran a couple of weeks ago. I will be using my pbox at the next MIR rental (hopefully on Wednesday). It will be interesting to measure some more GPS based 1/8 and 1/4 mile times and traps compared to the timing equipment.

Tom