Anyone here drive a GTR? or have opinions?
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When I wrecked my Z06, I thought long and hard about getting one of these. Unfortunately for me I just didn't have the time or the space. I did have a full working Z06 at my disposal though!! Ugh, sometimes I still wish I had went for it.
When I wrecked my Z06, I thought long and hard about getting one of these. Unfortunately for me I just didn't have the time or the space. I did have a full working Z06 at my disposal though!! Ugh, sometimes I still wish I had went for it.
Some photos online here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8459683...63074392/show/
A looong way to go....
Build time is about 10x the FFR estimate of 250-300 hours. That's the honest truth. There's a builders forum in which everyone agrees with the 2,500 number and doesn't understand why FFR keeps saying 250-300.
The big reason to do the build yourself is to enjoy the work. If you did it for financial reasons, you wind up paying yourself $20 to $30 per hour. Many folks can get a better return on their labor elsewhere.
Joe Schmoe can definitely build one in his garage if he's mechanically inclined, has a decent set of tools, and is patient. The builder's manual is more along the lines of "here's the general idea" rather than step-by-step instructions. As I mentioned above, there's also a builder's forum, which is very active and helpful.
No regrets here but I do wish the project really was 250 hours instead of 2,500.
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something that can use more power
if you want a true tuner car that is reliable and stupid fast, just get an EVO and dump $50,000 into a built motor w/ GT35r turbo kit, drivetrain, and suspension.
570awhp...easy on pump gas and 3000lbs to move.
If I were you I would keep the 997TT, and trade the M6 for an AUDI S8.
570awhp...easy on pump gas and 3000lbs to move.
If I were you I would keep the 997TT, and trade the M6 for an AUDI S8.
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I've had a GTR for almost a year now and I did have alot of fun modding it and driving it both on the track and drag racing. With just basic mods it is nearly unbeatable especially in a straight line. However it can get boring after awhile and now I find myself back driving the CLS55 much more than the GTR. There are too many GTRs around now and nearly everyone has the same mods. Its the same as with the 335is where all the modded ones are just as fast as one another or thereabouts. Also many of the modded and some even stock GTRs have also encountered problems which are complicated and expensive to fix. The car is very sensitive to alot of things, not just LC.
So IMO, if you're looking for a supercar then get something more exotic. If you're looking for an everyday car, the AMGs are much more reliable and comfortable. If you're looking for a track or drag car that you can also drive your girlfriend in, there is no doubt the GTR will be a great ego booster, but honestly if I had just 1 car to choose, I would rather have your M6 or my CLS55.
So IMO, if you're looking for a supercar then get something more exotic. If you're looking for an everyday car, the AMGs are much more reliable and comfortable. If you're looking for a track or drag car that you can also drive your girlfriend in, there is no doubt the GTR will be a great ego booster, but honestly if I had just 1 car to choose, I would rather have your M6 or my CLS55.
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Weel there you have it! Spoken from a owner that knows his stuff obviously!
I've had a GTR for almost a year now and I did have alot of fun modding it and driving it both on the track and drag racing. With just basic mods it is nearly unbeatable especially in a straight line. However it can get boring after awhile and now I find myself back driving the CLS55 much more than the GTR. There are too many GTRs around now and nearly everyone has the same mods. Its the same as with the 335is where all the modded ones are just as fast as one another or thereabouts. Also many of the modded and some even stock GTRs have also encountered problems which are complicated and expensive to fix. The car is very sensitive to alot of things, not just LC.
So IMO, if you're looking for a supercar then get something more exotic. If you're looking for an everyday car, the AMGs are much more reliable and comfortable. If you're looking for a track or drag car that you can also drive your girlfriend in, there is no doubt the GTR will be a great ego booster, but honestly if I had just 1 car to choose, I would rather have your M6 or my CLS55.
So IMO, if you're looking for a supercar then get something more exotic. If you're looking for an everyday car, the AMGs are much more reliable and comfortable. If you're looking for a track or drag car that you can also drive your girlfriend in, there is no doubt the GTR will be a great ego booster, but honestly if I had just 1 car to choose, I would rather have your M6 or my CLS55.
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I got a crazy idea for you. Lose both of your current cars for one. I think it might be time for you to go exotic.
The ultimate would probably be a 2006 Carerra GT. If you don't want to row the gears get a F430 F1 or the Gallardo LP560-4 (both of which could be had for near the price of your Porsche and BMW combined). Turn two insurance payments and two plate payments into one! If you had one of those and you have a daily beater, would you really need the Porsche or the M6? Probably not (read: Hell NO). I understand that these are widely different prices but really after owning your stable I am just trying to think what will take you to the next level. I almost think you need to go exotic to do this. It sounds like you are after several things: speed, handling, quality, and most of all something that puts a smile on your face like nothing you have owned before. I don't personally see the GTR doing that. The z06 is fast and modded its crazy fast, zr1- same story, but I just think the appointments won't do in the Nissan or Chevy.
The ultimate would probably be a 2006 Carerra GT. If you don't want to row the gears get a F430 F1 or the Gallardo LP560-4 (both of which could be had for near the price of your Porsche and BMW combined). Turn two insurance payments and two plate payments into one! If you had one of those and you have a daily beater, would you really need the Porsche or the M6? Probably not (read: Hell NO). I understand that these are widely different prices but really after owning your stable I am just trying to think what will take you to the next level. I almost think you need to go exotic to do this. It sounds like you are after several things: speed, handling, quality, and most of all something that puts a smile on your face like nothing you have owned before. I don't personally see the GTR doing that. The z06 is fast and modded its crazy fast, zr1- same story, but I just think the appointments won't do in the Nissan or Chevy.
Vic, what suspension mods have you got on your TT?
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Hey bro whats up, seen your posts on 6speed but I knew you had an AMG too. I am just running the GMG springs with sways right now.
Someone else asked what mods I have enginewise: ECU, Headers, Exhaust, Plenum, 82mm TB, Y pipe, Diverter Valves. Not much else I can do unless I upgrade the turbos.
I've had a GTR for almost a year now and I did have alot of fun modding it and driving it both on the track and drag racing. With just basic mods it is nearly unbeatable especially in a straight line. However it can get boring after awhile and now I find myself back driving the CLS55 much more than the GTR. There are too many GTRs around now and nearly everyone has the same mods. Its the same as with the 335is where all the modded ones are just as fast as one another or thereabouts. Also many of the modded and some even stock GTRs have also encountered problems which are complicated and expensive to fix. The car is very sensitive to alot of things, not just LC.
So IMO, if you're looking for a supercar then get something more exotic. If you're looking for an everyday car, the AMGs are much more reliable and comfortable. If you're looking for a track or drag car that you can also drive your girlfriend in, there is no doubt the GTR will be a great ego booster, but honestly if I had just 1 car to choose, I would rather have your M6 or my CLS55.
So IMO, if you're looking for a supercar then get something more exotic. If you're looking for an everyday car, the AMGs are much more reliable and comfortable. If you're looking for a track or drag car that you can also drive your girlfriend in, there is no doubt the GTR will be a great ego booster, but honestly if I had just 1 car to choose, I would rather have your M6 or my CLS55.
Thank you for this--- makes a lot of sense and gives me perspective after the novelty wears off (if I get it). But I feel that the modding here is probably not as intense as it is where you are or is it?? What mods do you have and what problems did you incur?
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here's my .02cents, Gtr = young kids car. i know its sic cause the performance number are crazy BUT! its still a nissan and its still not as sic as a AMG or M6 etc sometimes class has to rule over being bored, keep your m6 and put some sic *** mod on it if your bored no way dump it for a GTR.
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I've had a GTR for almost a year now and I did have alot of fun modding it and driving it both on the track and drag racing. With just basic mods it is nearly unbeatable especially in a straight line. However it can get boring after awhile and now I find myself back driving the CLS55 much more than the GTR. There are too many GTRs around now and nearly everyone has the same mods. Its the same as with the 335is where all the modded ones are just as fast as one another or thereabouts. Also many of the modded and some even stock GTRs have also encountered problems which are complicated and expensive to fix. The car is very sensitive to alot of things, not just LC.
So IMO, if you're looking for a supercar then get something more exotic. If you're looking for an everyday car, the AMGs are much more reliable and comfortable. If you're looking for a track or drag car that you can also drive your girlfriend in, there is no doubt the GTR will be a great ego booster, but honestly if I had just 1 car to choose, I would rather have your M6 or my CLS55.
So IMO, if you're looking for a supercar then get something more exotic. If you're looking for an everyday car, the AMGs are much more reliable and comfortable. If you're looking for a track or drag car that you can also drive your girlfriend in, there is no doubt the GTR will be a great ego booster, but honestly if I had just 1 car to choose, I would rather have your M6 or my CLS55.
Can't get a better answer than from someone who has them all!!
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I'm really not trying to play down the GTR as much as I am saying it will overlap too much with a 997TT. If the 997TT was being traded in instead of the M6, I'd say a GTR would be great, but that's not the case.
Z06 does have some Gizmos (HUD), but it's not overly complicated either. I find it's a more refreshing, pure car to drive. It can be a bit uncomfortable for longer trips, but it makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck like few other cars can.
Vic go drive a Z06 (or if you want something really wild, a ZR1) and let us know your thoughts. I have not driven a ZR1, but would love to.
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I don't think they are for different people, although I will admit they are different cars. I was on the waiting list for a GTR and am a former Z06 owner...
I'm really not trying to play down the GTR as much as I am saying it will overlap too much with a 997TT. If the 997TT was being traded in instead of the M6, I'd say a GTR would be great, but that's not the case.
Z06 does have some Gizmos (HUD), but it's not overly complicated either. I find it's a more refreshing, pure car to drive. It can be a bit uncomfortable for longer trips, but it makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck like few other cars can.
Vic go drive a Z06 (or if you want something really wild, a ZR1) and let us know your thoughts. I have not driven a ZR1, but would love to.
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I'm really not trying to play down the GTR as much as I am saying it will overlap too much with a 997TT. If the 997TT was being traded in instead of the M6, I'd say a GTR would be great, but that's not the case.
Z06 does have some Gizmos (HUD), but it's not overly complicated either. I find it's a more refreshing, pure car to drive. It can be a bit uncomfortable for longer trips, but it makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck like few other cars can.
Vic go drive a Z06 (or if you want something really wild, a ZR1) and let us know your thoughts. I have not driven a ZR1, but would love to.
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And that's 40k every ZR-1 owner should have earmarked to get Audi to make them a custom interior that isn't crafted using melted G.I. Joes.
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Please let us know how the test drive goes. Take a gander over at 360forged.com, they have a nice gallery of Z06s. They look pretty sweet dropped with a nice set of wheels.
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Another bad stealership on some good drugs...I had one of the first ZR1's sold to the public, I took delivery back in September, I fully intended on keeping the car, but once I saw pics of the new SL BS, I decided I had to have one of those. I paid MSRP for the ZR1 and flipped it for a $22.5k profit 3 days later. I got lucky and found a buyer that had to have an early car. There are several dealerships in the midwest now sitting on ZR1's, some of them are letting them go for MSRP so anyone that pays $40k over is either too lazy to make a couple phone calls or to stupid to know any better.
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....one more thing, to the OP. I got so sidetracked by the vette talk and I forgot what this thread was about. I have never driven a GTR, but I have driven around and past several!
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Sorry but this statement is dead a$$ wrong. There are no dealerships letting ZR1's go at MSRP. Check out jeffhardy.com. There are only 17 ZR1's at stealerships in the entire country. Bowling Green assembly plant is currently closed. So, the best one could hope for is about $25K over. MSRP is $120K so with the stealer markup and taxes, get $150K ready if you want one.
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i personally would never buy a vehicle over MSRP. i stopped by a Nissan dealership near my house and they had 2 GT-Rs in a storage room and they wanted $20K over MSRP. i just laughed at them and said good luck w/ the sale.
