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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Anyone here drive a GTR? or have opinions?

I know I dont own a Benz anymore but this has been my home for more than 7 years and I am getting the itch to dump the M6. So I come to you, my knowledgeable members for honest input. Is this car worth it (GTR)? I know it can make incredible power for cheap and is amazing on the track. But I was hoping some of you have had real world experience with this car and could give me thoughts as well as those of you who have done considerable research on the car. I honestly have only seen the car(s) at SEMA and at one tuning shop but have never driven it. So of course I would need to test drive it first. But prior to that Id like to see what your experiences are.

I know the tranny problems and other nannies that come with the GTR are to be considered but I also hear that most tranny failures are due to driver abuse. Of course this is heresay in all respects. With that being said its a consideration since my M6 lease is closing out. Thank God I leased it cause BMW is going to take 30k hit on the residual

I have friends at HKS so the modding side would be easy and reasonable for the power gained. Many of my friends tell me that its a Nissan and I should stay away but I am not going to rule out something just because of the nameplate. Not yet at least
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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I've never driven one either, but have seen many in person...Your M6 is much nicer.

Just my opinion.

I think it would appeal to a very techie type driver though as the HUD has an almost overload of information.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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pm Fikse as he's the only one i know on this board that owns one ( and is modded as well i believe)
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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You're mad for dumping Shamu. That's the illest M6 I've ever seen dude. I love the GTR, but unless you're going to track it regularly, you'll never get the juice out of it that you get out of the M6.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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He'll get juice out of on the Tolls ..... lol
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Vic,

I tend to be very long winded about these kind of responses, and your question is very open ended. I think the GTR will overlap way too much with the 997, and I also think that for GTR money there are better choices that will contrast better.

I will admit, most people don't have two competing sports cars as their only cars, so your "goals" are a bit perplexing to me.

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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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I always knew you weren't to be trusted, Vic.

Really though, from the outside looking in, this move would make no sense. What does the GTR do that your 997 can't? Both can make huge power from their twin turbos, both AWD, both kings of the stoplight, handle well, not very spacious and don't sound great. You'd have a German and a Japanese version of the same car (yes Captain Obvious, one is rear engine the other front but basically...)

If your lease is coming up then I can understand the need for a change but personally I can't understand this. Maybe an M5 if you want something as fast but lower profile (problem for you though could be that it's effectively an M6 in different clothes) a CLK BS or even something like an E92 M3.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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You're mad for dumping Shamu. That's the illest M6 I've ever seen dude. I love the GTR, but unless you're going to track it regularly, you'll never get the juice out of it that you get out of the M6.
Oh I have road o' plenty my good friend from the East... thats half the reason why I still have the M6; I am able to stretch her long legs almost daily to 160 and above.


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Vic,

I tend to be very long winded about these kind of responses, and your question is very open ended. I think the GTR will overlap way too much with the 997, and I also think that for GTR money there are better choices that will contrast better.

I will admit, most people don't have two competing sports cars as their only cars, so your "goals" are a bit perplexing to me.

-m
Well I have a two coupes right now (if you call the 997 a coupe) and truly the 997TT IMHO is a GT car as opposed to a track machine. I also have a Lexus GS350 to compensate for door dings and comfort The 997TT has reached its maximum in mods (for me) but I see the GTR having a better chance to up the power in regards to numbers and dollars than the 997. The HKS570 package will get me 570 AWD hp and I find that intriguing.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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What do you want from the car??

The way I see it, you're trading an M6 for a GTR which is pure lunacy; especially when the M6 is as nice as your own.

If you're looking for a fast car that can be made faster for cheap and is great around a track... Z06? I know everyone on this board hates Corvettes (or it seems that way) but the performance cannot be denied and the aftermarket for Vettes is unbeatable.

OR! Ariel Atom. Do it.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
I always knew you weren't to be trusted, Vic.

Really though, from the outside looking in, this move would make no sense. What does the GTR do that your 997 can't? Both can make huge power from their twin turbos, both AWD, both kings of the stoplight, handle well, not very spacious and don't sound great. You'd have a German and a Japanese version of the same car (yes Captain Obvious, one is rear engine the other front but basically...)

If your lease is coming up then I can understand the need for a change but personally I can't understand this. Maybe an M5 if you want something as fast but lower profile (problem for you though could be that it's effectively an M6 in different clothes) a CLK BS or even something like an E92 M3.
At least my name is Vic .... unlike you Carl and your double secret probation login ID.

I can always just re-lease the M6 as its not letting me down in any form. The BS is another option but modding that car is more expensive with less returns. Just my thoughts ...
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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I tend to agree with the others on this. There will be too much overlap with the GTR and the VW Beetle ehmmm I mean Porsche

I see no qualified replacement for the M6. 'course I am biased. A CLK BS would be one that I would actually consider though. One huge problem with that: NO HUD.

In what situations would you be looking to utilize the M6 replacement???
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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A friend of my drove one and said it's stupid fast and a total blast to drive. He's owned several different cars (E39&E60 M5, F360, Viper, Porsche, E55) so he has good comparisons. Like others have said, I think it will be very close to your 997 and won't give you much variety. I like the idea of a CLK BS, New M3, or M5.

CLK BS FTW!
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Originally Posted by Vic55
At least my name is Vic .... unlike you Carl and your double secret probation login ID.

I can always just re-lease the M6 as its not letting me down in any form. The BS is another option but modding that car is more expensive with less returns. Just my thoughts ...
They're watching me, I know it.

My vote is for a re-lease. I say poll it up and follow the hearts of the MBWorld faithful.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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My vote is for a re-lease. I say poll it up and follow the hearts of the MBWorld faithful.
I second the vote for re-lease.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by J 2OOI
I tend to agree with the others on this. There will be too much overlap with the GTR and the VW Beetle ehmmm I mean Porsche

I see no qualified replacement for the M6. 'course I am biased. A CLK BS would be one that I would actually consider though. One huge problem with that: NO HUD.

In what situations would you be looking to utilize the M6 replacement???
I know the HUD would/will be a huge loss ... Its still a little while down the road but I appreciate all the thoughts and comments.

I guess Im looking for that high speed runner that also has low end juice. The 997TT is crazy from stop light to stop light and shines up to about 140 mph but then the Tip (yes I have a tip) starts to take its toll. This is why the M6 is so great- it shines where the 997TT doesnt. So now how do I get the best of both worlds plus an all world handler? The M6 is ok at best with its 4k lb carcass.

I guess I could just go GT30r's in the Turbo but thats a whole different world in regards to price and internals/reliability.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic55
So now how do I get the best of both worlds plus an all world handler?
CTS-V. Plus it should have HUD.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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M6 or get an SL63, they are amazing! (new gearbox and REAL race launch that you can use all day everyday)

w/o the race launch, which you can't use more than 5 times or so, or it voids the warranty, the car does 0-60 in 4.2. I raced one from a light and won.... I feel the GTR is rather novelty, the M6 is much more practical. Luxury of an M6... Leave the GTR to the spoiled highschool kids.

Hitler GTR - MUST SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOAXJTTc__w

Or get an R34 Nur =] My friend has a moded out R33 that I get to drive from time to time, it he has almost 600hp to the wheels, its pretty crazy.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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I think you are crazy ! I think there are better cars for the money and you already own them now ! I like the new sl63 or sl65 ....they are mean

what do you have done to the 997?
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Originally Posted by Vic55
I guess Im looking for that high speed runner that also has low end juice.
I'd say the Black Series with a few mods from Evosport. Especially what you can pick one up for now...Or, the SL63. Be nice to have a convertable where we live...
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I am probably the only person on here that would get the GTR over the M6. I would not say that if I had not seen the GTR in person. I love the M6 but regarding performance it is not on par with the GTR, and the appearance of the GTR is incredible.

I don't agree with the performance being similar to the 997TT. The electro gadgets that the GTR has is by far one of the most advanced cars available. The back seats are actually really roomy and the all around driving feel I would not think would be similar to any 911TT. One of a kind looks, incredible tech and a decent price gives the GTR the win for me.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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vic, i have seen a few in person and they look pretty mean. I say go drive one really hard, and if it tickles your fancy.. then GO FOR IT!! You already have a nice 997 TT that rips, so if the GTR lacks in build quality. who cares!? You got the bumbaclot blood clot!!
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If you plan on modding, GTR no question. For the money to mod, none of the other cars mentioned will even come close hp gains/performance wise. Good luck either way!
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I think going from the M6 to a GTR you will be very disappointed with the build quality, fit and finish. I drove one and could not believe how cheap it felt, tons of rattles. The thing sounded like it was ready to explode when you pushed it.
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