BlkE63AMG

A little torn here. Completely different cars, I know, but not sure exactly what I want as a second car. Have the opportunity to pick up a 'new' 2008 C4S that is loaded to the gills for almost 25K off vs a lightly used '08 CL65. I have not personally driven either yet. I am keeping my E63 as a daily driver. The other car would be a 'fun' car. Not sure if I want more sport or more comfort.

Should I go used '07 or '08 977 turbo? Used cars now are a great deal!!!! I know there are risks and concerns about racing/tracking but some of the cars are a steal....

P-cars are drastically different from a CL65, but am a little torn between fast as @#!$% luxury coupe vs a true sports car. Help!!!!!!

motorkas

used 997 tt

220S

fwiw, I have both a P-car and an E63 for the very reason that they are totally different.

imho, the CL and your E would be too much in the same sort of category. But then again, I don't know what you are really looking for(?)

BlkE63AMG

I don't know either. I'm young (but I'm old) as I love comfort and speed. Won't be tracking the car so not sure I need a 997 tt. A nice canyon carver would be nice but a CL65 would be great too for long trips and nights out on the town. The wife used to complain on the noise from my M3 w/ SS exhaust and the ride of the +1 rims and tires. If I get the CL65 we can both enjoy it but if I get the 997 tt or another P-car, I'd enjoy it alone mostly. Not sure which I prefer at this point

MJ50

c4s since u already have 63... tt would be even better!

RobDoc

The Porsche...by a landslide.
I don't see the CL 65 being a whole lot more fun than your E63.

TMC M5

I can see arguments for both cars. Ultimately, you (and your wife if you intend for her to drive it) need to drive both cars and figure out if the fun playing with the torque of the 65 trumps the handling prowess of the C4S. I would think the C4S's contrast with your daily driver would win out. Good luck!

Tom

SLK55R

Seems pretty simple to me. If your wife is going to complain about the porsche ... get the CL. Personally I don't see why she should ... you have the e63 to drive around if she has to come along. Did you have a 2nd car besides the m3 before?

BlkE63AMG

Nope. Just had the M3 at that time. Guess I should go drive the porsche and see if it moves me. I drove a friend's '09 Carrera S and didn't like the rattles, etc. We may have had it in sport mode. Anyway, I guess if I had good twisties or canyons it would be a no-brainer but without those I am not sure the porsche would be a good idea. My friend LOVES his tho, so there has got to be something to it.

slownrusty

+ 911

2K6E55

I was in your shoes a few months ago and I picked the C4S. It's a different beast and driving experience is much better than my E55. Taking it on canyon carving is a whole different experience that money cant buy. Since then, it has become my DD and my 55Ks have been sitting in the garage. GL on your decision.

BlkE63AMG

How's the ride quality as a daily driver? Are the 997tt pretty comparable in ride to the C2S and the C4S? Any benefits to gettting a tt besides the sledgehammer power? (as if that wasn't reason enough)

garybc230

Wow, as a a previous owner of a C4S, I would definately go for the Porsche, skip the twin turbo because it still has turbo lag and you can't really use all that power. The C4S is a great handler, decent gas mileage and alot less maintainence. Again, if the wife has a part in the decision making, you'll probably end up with the CL65, which by the way is a sweet ride as well. My neighbor has one and he let me drive it and it was fun but wasn't a Porsche. The exhaust note is absolutely devine in the Porsche, that flat 6 can't be beat. Good luck and let us know what you decide and send us some pics.

2K6E55

It's great, no complaint at all and the fun factor is outstanding. I havent log much miles on the car ~ 1600miles but I enjoy every minutes behind the wheel. I test drove the TT, it's very nice but the C4S is the right car for me at this time.

RenntechE55

I would go for the 997TT , I like the C4S but kind of seems point less to have the 4wd , wide fenders , bigger brakes , beefier suspension, but with only 355hp ( unless you get a 09). BTW: only difference between the C4S and turbo is the Turbos as far as mechanics. thats my .02 cents

prodigymb

(CL65 fun factor) = 100x3.14x((fun factor of E63)^2)

I consider 10s a lot of fun !!!

trinitony

+993

TMC M5

A little strange. My car doesn't have turbo lag and I don't think others have found that to be the case either. It may be a case that your neighbor doesn't hammer the throttle enough and the adaptive transmission may be a little slow in reacting which could be misconstrued as turbo lag.

Tom

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

I've driven a C4S rather aggressively in the past and have to say, I was completely unimpressed. Yes it handled well, but the 4WD without all that added power of the Turbo (which, I know, is AWD) was like a milkshake without the milk. If you're going to go with a Pcar, get either a Carrera S or a Turbo.

motorkas

I may be mistaken but I think he's referring to the P-car's turbo lag, not the 65.

TMC M5

I see what you are saying. But it wouldn't make any sense if he was talking about a 997TT because he goes on to say "and you can't really use all that power". Why wouldn't you be able to use that power with the 997TT's AWD? That seems to be a much more valid claim against the CL65...even though I personally love to use the CL65's power a good amount of the time. I guess he can settle this by elaborating on his comment.

Tom

russjr

you really should drive a 65 before you make a choice. the build quality is so superior in the mb and the enormous torque is beyond description, and that's before you chip it. porsche's somehow have a reputation that i've never understood. very quickly i've tired of my various porsches and could not imagine , with all the other choices available, ever seriously considering one again. lots of cheap plastic and with their recent financial travails they are unlikely to be upgrading materials and will be forced to seek ways to aggressively cut costs.

transferred

Couldn't disagree more. Porsche aren't hurting, Daimler Chrysler are. Merc has more gadgets but P-car build quality is top notch.

russjr

don't keep up with financial news, eh?

220S